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Reviews and feedback for The Chronicles of Narnia film
December 10, 2005 | DaveLoneRanger

Posted on 12/10/2005 7:47:30 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger

Okay, everyone, you've had a chance to see the film! Currently, it is at the top of the box office, per Drudge.

Some reviews and discussion have entered the board, but I thought I'd create an "official" thread for feedback, and ping the Narnia list so we can all discuss our thoughts, excitement, enjoyment, etc. about the film.

I have to warn you! THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. This is for folks who have ALREADY SEEN THE FILM. If you haven't, and don't want spoilers....hit the little X on the top-right of this window.

I have written two reviews, one for NarniaWeb.com, and one for Amazon.com. But those have word limits, and there are other things I wish to discuss, the little elements I have time to pick on.

You can read my NarniaWeb review here: http://www.narniaweb.com/reviewShow.asp?id=68

And the Amazon.com review here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B00005JO1V/ref=cm_rev_next/002-4272324-0450453?%5Fencoding=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=562436&s=theatrical&customer-reviews.start=31

So tell me what YOU thought? Was it too long? Too short? Were the roles well-cast? Did you agree with me that Aslan just seemed too small? More of the tame side? How about the music? Battle action? Witch? Scenery? Special effects? I think Patrick Kake (General Orieus) got way too little screen time.


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1 posted on 12/10/2005 7:47:32 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger
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To: Joe 6-pack; k2blader; Richard Kimball; nicmarlo; Uncle Vlad; tbird5; Borges; ConservativeDude; ...
(((NARNIA AWAKE)))



You are being pinged because of your interest in Walden Media’s December 9th release of
“The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.”
Freep-mail if you want on/off this list.

Make sure to visit NarniaWeb.com for all the latest news, rumors and information!

2 posted on 12/10/2005 7:50:01 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger ("As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, while God is marching on.")
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To: DaveLoneRanger
"Okay, everyone, you've had a chance to see the film!"

I did? When was this...?

3 posted on 12/10/2005 7:50:03 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (We need HRC for President like Michael Moore needs a Burger King franchise)
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To: Darkwolf377

Unless you live overseas, it released nationwide on December 9. You had a CHANCE...that doesn't mean you went. :-)


4 posted on 12/10/2005 7:52:20 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger ("As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, while God is marching on.")
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To: DaveLoneRanger

No, I didn't have a CHANCE because I've been WORKING. :P


5 posted on 12/10/2005 7:58:01 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (We need HRC for President like Michael Moore needs a Burger King franchise)
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To: Darkwolf377
So have I. I am planning on seeing it on Wednesday my first day off. I will then reopen this thread and post my review.

I plan to see it twice (Wednesday and Thursday) to make up for not seeing it on Friday.
6 posted on 12/10/2005 8:02:47 PM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I saw it yesterday. The battle scenes are intense for very young children, although there were lots of those in the theater. The scenes of Aslan at the stone -- leading up to and following what happens there -- are the best representation I have seen of Christ's death and resurrection. I know some like to say there is no Christ in it, but being His beloved child, I don't know how a believer can read the books or see this movie and say that. What especially spoke to me in this rendition was the frenzy of the White Witch's minions as they humiliated Aslan and prepared to fulfill the deep magic.

I love it that Lewis does not glorify or put the "deep magic" as something to seek or aspire to have, but as something to be overcome and destroyed.

The casting was perfect. The special effects were much better than I expected; the scenery was ... glorious. The sound track -- I *gotta have it.*

And when Aslan stands on that rock and roars -- wow. I especially enjoyed him chomping into the White Witch. Just deserts to the max.


7 posted on 12/10/2005 8:04:32 PM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Here is my repost. Love it!!!

The substance of faith is huge in Narnia, where LOTR is more an entertainment piece.

The White Witch and her minions are exactly like liberal democrats in San Francisco. The seen where Aslan is on the stone table resembles a liberal bath house with Hillary Clinton or Pelosi standing in the middle. It really is great and I expect liberals to scream about this movie.
8 posted on 12/10/2005 8:05:44 PM PST by Porterville (Beware the Egyptian Politics)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

A friend and I are planning to take my eight-year-old neighbor girl either Tuesday or Thursday of next week, and really look forward to that.

Buying our tickets, some people drove up to the curb and shouted to us to tell us what time harry potter played. I said I didn't want to talk about harry potter and urged them to see "Narnia" instead. The *lady* yelled back that she was going to see harry potter and I thought to myself, Then get out of your car and stop yelling at the patrons. lol


9 posted on 12/10/2005 8:06:45 PM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I thought that TLTWaTW is much more child-oriented than LotR.


10 posted on 12/10/2005 8:07:41 PM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: Talking_Mouse

I hope you like it. I was sorta interested in seeing it, but not anymore. I will see King Kong, because I like spectacular flicks, but have had it with kid flicks. I was never a part of this trend of adults seeing kid movies willingly, but that's just me. I'm having a tough time thinking of upcoming movies I'm interested in seeing, and I'm a big movie fan.


11 posted on 12/10/2005 8:08:43 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (We need HRC for President like Michael Moore needs a Burger King franchise)
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To: GretchenM
I love it that Lewis does not glorify or put the "deep magic" as something to seek or aspire to have, but as something to be overcome and destroyed.

I have to disagree on the "deep magic" being overcome and destroyed. No the "deep magic" -- the old testament -- is not as powerful as the "deeper magic" of the new testament (Death will work in reverse). Aslan will never work against The Emperor Across the Sea, and the "deep magic" is His magic, just as the Law is His Word.
12 posted on 12/10/2005 8:21:35 PM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
My wife and I went and saw it today. I read all the books as a child, while she didn't read any, so I was interested to see what we would both think. It was amazing. It gave me the chills and we were both moved to tears at certain points.

I thought the special effects were terrific. I was a bit surprised at how intense it is, especially the battle scenes, but I don't think gratuitous. The most graphic images are left to imagination, such as when Aslan is standing over the Witch on the ground, lets out a furious growl and lunges at her head with his mouth open. You don't actually see what happens, but you get the idea. When the armies gathered for battle I thought "are they really going to show some realistic fighting?" And when it broke out, I thought "Wow. Braveheart for kids!" While there's a lot of fighting and warriors being felled, you don't see much blood.

It was a long movie, but there was a lot to tell, so I didn't have a problem with the length. We don't have any youngters in the house, so we don't usually go to kids movies. I commented to my wife before we left "well, I hope there's kids there being exposed to this good vs. evil movie, since it IS a kids' movie, but I hope they are behaved". We've had problems with unruly or bored kids before who are more interested in throwing popcorn at each other than watching the movie. After we got our seats the entire row in front of us filled up with mostly young children. I thought "great, here we go". I swear, once the movie started I didn't notice anyone but my wife. The movie engrossed us all, kids and adults.

13 posted on 12/10/2005 8:27:21 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: GretchenM
I especially enjoyed him chomping into the White Witch. Just deserts to the max.

he ate her?

14 posted on 12/10/2005 8:32:32 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: Full Court

He jumps on her face. ROAR!


15 posted on 12/10/2005 8:46:47 PM PST by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
For my review I will repost what I wrote on an earlier thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1537929/posts?page=14#14

I saw Narnia last night.

Incredible!

Amazing!

My new favorite movie of all time. (Bumps It's A Wonderful Life to number two.)

The Chronicles of Narnia are one of four stories I heard as a child which I always felt needed to become a movie. (LOTR having been done with the exception of the Hobbit.)

The first Narnia installment does not disappoint.

All seven stories were read to me and my siblings several times during my childhood. I read them for myself for the first time this year. For me it was like a way of continuing the story by seeing it on the big screen.

I am interested in hearing how those who never read the books view this movie.

As far as the criticism of Narnia being too religious, I think few people will see any religion at all unless it is pointed out first.

Besides, since when did Hollywood avoid the subject matter?

I can hardly find a movie out of Hollywood that doesn't mention God and Jesus numerous times. Even G rated movies, like Herbie, often have the ubiquitous mention of Deity, albeit not quite reverently. I don't think any Narnia stories invoke the name of God or Jesus, while most Hollywood movies do.

(BTW, in keeping with the theme, my screen name originated with C.S. Lewis. Check out my new tagline.)
16 posted on 12/10/2005 9:49:53 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I saw it yesterday afternoon.. Blew off work. I really enjoyed the movie. I just re-read the book about 3 weeks ago and was really surprised how close it was to the book even though everything I had read to date said it was. I think it should have been longer... Even though I really enjoyed the movie, I left the theatre without any kind of feeling one way or the other. Very odd. When my husband asked me what I thought, (he didn't see it) he was surprised at my reaction to it of just oh, it was good. . . I might see it again when my son is here for Christmas. But, I will definitely buy the DVD.

Lucy & Tumnus were my favorite characters. Peter was next. I didn't think the battle scenes were too intense. Maybe for me when I was a kid, but not for todays world wise kids.

Overall, I would give it an 8.5- 9.0

Adamson is a GREAT director. I think he could be the next Lucas....

17 posted on 12/10/2005 9:56:54 PM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Really good movie. A lot more humble than LOTR but still very good.

WOnderful CG graphics. Cool Maughrim and Minotaur leader of the Queen's army. THE Queen was really good. Her death though was not too impressive. I'd say that Edmund was portrayed in too well of a sense at first. I actually felt sorry for him. He was supposed to originally be a little g*t.

It doesn't compare with LOTR (but of course VERY little does) but also it had a much humbler book source. But it does seem much more real. Don't know why but it seems very realistic.


18 posted on 12/10/2005 10:22:48 PM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: Full Court

The camera pulled back but that's what it looked like to me.


19 posted on 12/11/2005 1:10:28 AM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

remember in evaluating Aslan's size in this initial movie that throughout the seven volumes HE steadily increases in physical size

A.A.C.


20 posted on 12/11/2005 1:50:27 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: GretchenM
Saw it last night with my family and found it absolutely enchanting.

Lucy was adorable, and the beavers were hilarious.

I want some of that Turkis Delight Edmund was munching on!

21 posted on 12/11/2005 4:36:20 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: GLDNGUN; kstewskis
"Wow. Braveheart for kids!"

Exactly!

I kept urging (quietly) Peter to use the advantage of the high ground before the attack. Let them come to you, and then when they are worn out from the trek, attack them at full strength!

It was an absolute visual treat. In many ways I liked it more than LOTR.

22 posted on 12/11/2005 4:41:49 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
i loved it, as you know! it is a wonderful movie. i know lots of folks, including some of the stars, seem unaware of the religious symbolism, but i believe the movie is faithful to lewis's vision....just as in the book, you take away from it what you will and the book will mean so much more to the "enlightened."

the people in the theater seemed entranced, and applause was the response at the end.

yes, there are things to nitpick, as we have done on other threads, but, in all, it is well worth seeing SEVERAL times...i believe the film will stand on its own, apart from the book. of course, reading is always richer than seeing, because the mind will create landscapes more extraordinary than the eye will.

but i was satisfied and inspired.

it was also funny!

23 posted on 12/11/2005 5:10:47 AM PST by wildwood
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To: Darkwolf377
I was never a part of this trend of adults seeing kid movies willingly, but that's just me.

that's a shame because (imho) some of the best films are children's films. i am not sure why this is, except perhaps the skill of storytelling has to be honed to keep a child's interest. it is truly appalling how thin plot, characterization and resolution are in so many of today's films. yet we have at our disposal the ability to create in ways never before possible.

to be honest, however, i do not really see this as a children's film, just as lewis said of the books. the child will see it as such, and the adult will see it as so much more.

i absolutely love film and find that moving images can be nearly as emotional an experience as listening to music (not quite, but almost...).

24 posted on 12/11/2005 5:18:26 AM PST by wildwood
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To: wildwood

I thought that this movie was better than the current Harry Potter. The actress for Lucy should get nominated for an acadamy award. It was heartbreking when Mr. Tumnus confessed to her the bad thing he had done (trying to kidnap her). You see Lucy lose the smile on her face and say in a little voice. "I thought you were my friend?". She expressed such innocense that it actually put a lump in my throat.
The effects were incredible and The Queen was perfect. Wow! What a show. I'll go see it again.


25 posted on 12/11/2005 5:51:15 AM PST by FreeManWhoCan (---an American with Cuban genes in Miami.............)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
We went yesterday and I took my two kids, 9 and 3 1/5. I think it was a little too much for David. He didn't like it when Aslan was going up to the stone table - I pulled him on my lap and let him hide his face. He also didn't like seeing him die and Lucy and Susan crying. I told him not to worry - he will come back to life- just like Jesus.

I probably shouldn't have taken him.

OTOH - Drew LOVED it - it was the best movie he's ever seen.

Having read the book 1/2 a dozen times myself, the movie is as good as it could be in 2 hours. I think it needed another hour to develop the story more... :-)

Also - Aslan was SO much larger (in every way) in the book. The movie toned him down alot....
26 posted on 12/11/2005 6:02:48 AM PST by birddog
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I saw the film at its first showing on opening day. I went as a chaperone for my son's 6th grade glass who attended as part of a field trip. The class has just finished reading the book and got to go see the film.

I felt the movie, overall, was kind of weak - especially the direction. Moments of on-screen brilliance surrounded by mediocrity. There were times when this movie really shined and the magic was there. But most of the film was little better than something that would have been made for TV.

The comparisons between this film and The Lord of the Rings trilogy are inescapable. The novels upon which the films were based were written during the same time period by authors who were contemporaries. But while the Lord of the Rings films had a brilliant director and all three of the films are consistantly stunning scene by scene, the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe does not come close to measuring up.

The weakest part of the film is how it handled the White Witch. Everything from her acting, her costuming, the scenery surrounding her, her character realization onscreen, were disappointing. And if you can't make a great villain, you can't make the audience care as much who wins or loses the climactic battle. The scenes of her riding her chariot in that final battle and the way she fought were clumsy and campy.

As child actors go, the 4 children playing the main characters Lucy, Susan, Edmund, and Peter were better than most. The actress portraying Lucy positively shined onscreen, outshining all the others.

The CGI effects of the animals was nearly seemless. Their voices, however, sometimes did not fit their appearance and motions.

The costuming was pretty bad. The score was too.

I'm not panning the film. I loved it. I'm just pointing out that it was not all it could have been.

Also, unlike other films, there was no mad rush for tickets or long lines at the theater where I attended. While the Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings films packed them in and had lines of fans camping in line from early morning, there was no waiting for the first showing of Narnia and the theater was only 4/5ths full. I give the movie weak B but I do recommend it.

27 posted on 12/11/2005 6:10:14 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Darkwolf377
I saw Narnia yesterday with two friends of mine. The youngest was 43. We had a ball. It was the first movie I remember actually applauding when it ended. Most of the theater did the same.

We were surrounded by kids. That's usually a bad thing. They were mesmerized through the whole movie. One little boy next to me was enjoying it so much he squealed at times. I absolutely loved it. I may go again.
28 posted on 12/11/2005 6:21:18 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Darkwolf377

ditto--- when did I have a chance? I have had a booked up schedule for the entire last two weeks (see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1532248/posts).

Trust me, if I had 3 hours of "free time", I would have been there. I WILL go see it the FIRST CHANCE I get.


29 posted on 12/11/2005 7:01:33 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: Spiff
I felt the movie, overall, was kind of weak - especially the direction.

Amazing how opinions can vary so much - in the same thread, there are acclaims about the directing, and panning of the directing. I will reserve judgement myself for when I can go see the movie - but it's just amazing how opninions can vary.

30 posted on 12/11/2005 7:14:14 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Saw it last night with my family.

Here is my take:

CASTING:

1. MacReady was cast well, as was the Professor's House.

2. Professor Kirke looked too much like Count Olaf from Series of Unfortunate Events. We kept on waiting for him to enmesh his fingers and say, "Sorry. I don't speak monkey!"

3. All of the children were very well cast. Edmund looked like a young Garrison Keillor.

4. Tumnus was not at all like I pictured him; I figured they were going for an "everyman" (everyfaun?) look, which they did an EXCELLENT job of.

5. Jadis was definitely miscast, and didn't FEEL evil. If they wanted the alluring witch, they should've picked Nicole Kidman. She has the eyes for it since her divorce :-(

6. Aslan was great, but his roars were spoiled for me by The Lion King. He had the right air of authority.

7. The Beavers looked too much like something out of a commercial.

8. I still think Maugrim should've been called Fenris...I know about the two versions, though.

9. Father Christmas stunk up his role--looked too much like Theoden from LOTR. And where were the gifts for the Beavers?

Remainder. Is a spoiler alert, see below.
















10. Told you it was a spoiler. BEAVERS IN CHAIN MAIL ROCK!!

11. They did a very poor job on "The Passion of the Aslan" and should have focused more on what the rabble did to him.

12. During Aslan's death, I was quite surprised they didn't repeat the White Witch's final speech from the book--which was quite powerful--word for word.

13. They only hinted at the White Witch's turning the Christmas party into stone--I had been looking forward to that scene.

The cinematography was excellent. The faithfulness to the plot, excellent (like LOTR, they took some liberties, but I think they were necessary to translate print onto the screen). And Tumnus looked straight, not gay. I was afraid I'd have to send Reepicheep up to Disney's board room to show them what a REAL mouse was :-)

The costuming, sets, special effects, music--all top-notch. Nothing cheesy, and some of the supporting characters -- the Centaur, the Fox--were "off-scale".

Overall score: A- to A, depending on my mood.

31 posted on 12/11/2005 9:28:06 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: GretchenM
I love it that Lewis does not glorify or put the "deep magic" as something to seek or aspire to have, but as something to be overcome and destroyed.

Please re-read the book version of The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe and also The Magician's Nephew.

The Deep Magic was put into Narnia from its beginning, of which the White Witch (Jadis) was a witness. Aslan was resurrected due to a Deeper Magic from Before the Dawn of Time, of which Jadis had no knowledge, but Aslan did :-)

Cheers!

32 posted on 12/11/2005 9:30:16 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: FreeManWhoCan
oh, it blew ALL the harry potter films away! i have read all the books, which are marvelous, and seen all the movies and, although this last one was the best movie yet of the potter movies, in no way do ANY of the potter movies compare to narnia.

you are absolutely right about lucy. she is a fabulous little actress. it SLAYS me that some of the meanest reviews have been crapping that the kids were the best thing about the film, as if nothing else redeems it.

it IS a film about kids, after all! some of the criticism has been ludicrous. they never really do get it, do they?

33 posted on 12/11/2005 9:33:30 AM PST by wildwood
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To: grey_whiskers

My point is taken in apposition to the harry potter type garbage that is drawing youths into real magic (seeking after demonic powers for one's own supposed gain). Lewis approached it differently than the occult stuff dousing our children.


34 posted on 12/11/2005 9:51:26 AM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: Northern Yankee

I loved the beavers too.
Lucy was a perfect choice.
The CG people did a fantastic job on Aslan.


35 posted on 12/11/2005 9:53:26 AM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

And you had to love Aslan's quote after he killed the White Witch:

"It is finished".


36 posted on 12/11/2005 9:56:36 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

It was good. Adaptations to the book were supportive of the overall story. I felt that the story line was rushed in a concern to meet the smaller movie time. If they would have added some key areas (such as Aslan's speech at the WW's castle to those awakened, etc) it would have been enhanced IMHO. I hope that they add these in to the DVD when it comes out (assuming they did these scenes in the first place.) Otherwise, I'm very happy with the film.


37 posted on 12/11/2005 10:47:08 AM PST by Godzilla (Jesus - The REASON for the SEASON)
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To: GretchenM
Agreed entirely, then.

In which case you'll REALLY love Magician's Nephew.

Cheers!

38 posted on 12/11/2005 12:30:23 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
After reading your post, I decided to order it online from my library in CD, Kenneth Branagh narrating. Even though I love to read (and read a lot), I never finished the Chronicles and, since beginning them, have discovered that I enjoy books of this type when they are well narrated. (Two more absolute favorites audio books for me are The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, with Patrick Fraley narrating, as I am impatient trying to decipher the dialects in print but "get" them instantly when they are read properly.)

From AudioFile
Written in 1955 as a prequel to the 1950 fantasy novel THE LION, THE WITCH, AND THE WARDROBE, this title is the story of two children in Victorian England who unwittingly take part in the (re)birth of the magical land of Narnia. Kenneth Branagh's precise and enchanting reading takes the listener from the rooftops of London to the fields of Narnia, and then back to London as mad Uncle Andrew ushers an evil sorceress named Jadis to wreak havoc in our world. Lewis's storytelling is magnificent, and Branagh's performance completely and utterly engaging. S.E.S. Winner of AudioFile Earphones Award, 2002 Audie Award Finalist © AudioFile 2002, Portland, Maine-- Copyright © AudioFile, Portland, Maine--This text refers to the Audio Cassette edition.

39 posted on 12/11/2005 2:00:57 PM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

FWIW...

1) Saw it yesterday. Theater sold out 20 minutes prior to showtime for first showing of the day.

2) Loved Lucy, Mr. Tumnus and especially the White Witch. Edmund was well-cast, but none of us cared for the actor playing the oldest brother.

3) TOO MUCH WALKING AROUND. A drinking game will probably develop (on second thought, probably not) around the endless walking around Narnia and/or the house that all the characters do.

4) Lots of LOTR moments. It would be fun when watching the DVD to yell out the scene from LOTR that TLTWatW apes. ("The eagles are coming!" "Hide under the road so the Ringwraith wolves don't find you!")

5) Only a couple of moments in the script made me flinch at their awkwardness, a pleasant surprise.

6) We all thought the Santa character was poorly done. It made absolutely no sense, especially to those in our group that had never read the book. I never thought that scene worked well in the book, either. Feels tacked on. An easy way to get necessary props to the characters, but not necessarily the best way to do so.

7) Overall, I'd grade it a B-. We might not purchase the DVD; the kids didn't seem to love it.


40 posted on 12/11/2005 8:30:40 PM PST by StrictTime
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Just got back from the 8PM Sunday show; the earlier showings were sold out but ours was ~2/3 full.

Loved it. CS Lewis was such a gentle writer for kids, and that comes across wonderfully in the movie. It has a real peace about it.

I thought the special effects were a bit clumsy 2-3 times, which surprised me. But that was the only negative thing I had to ignore, and it was only 2 or 3 times.

Lucy is an amazing young actress - she had the perfect facial expressions scene after scene. Really delightful.

I wished Aslan had more of an edge to him, in the book they were afraid of him but loved him. The white witch was sufficently evil (for kids).

Overall it gets a solid A in my book. I look forward to the whole series (I hope).

GO SEE IT!!!!!


41 posted on 12/11/2005 9:36:51 PM PST by Ted
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I thought the movie was good, but I don't think I'd call it great. It was very faithful to the book, and made its primary focus the relationship between the four children. Edmund was a little (only a little, mind you) more sympathetic than in the books based on this focus on the interplay between the siblings.


42 posted on 12/12/2005 5:15:53 AM PST by kevkrom ("Zero-sum games are transactions mostly initiated by thieves and governments." - Walter Williams)
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To: StrictTime
We all thought the Santa character was poorly done. It made absolutely no sense, especially to those in our group that had never read the book. I never thought that scene worked well in the book, either. Feels tacked on. An easy way to get necessary props to the characters, but not necessarily the best way to do so.

I'm not so sure about "tacked on" -- it is stressed early on that it's always winter, but never Christmas. The appearance of "Father Christmas" is one of the first signs in the book that the long winter is finally breaking.

43 posted on 12/12/2005 5:21:37 AM PST by kevkrom ("Zero-sum games are transactions mostly initiated by thieves and governments." - Walter Williams)
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I had been doing some reading about character development, casting and wardrobe (no pun) for this film. The movie-makers did not want Father Christmas to be just another shopping mall Santa, andduring their brainstorming sessions, which were long and deliberate, they had settled on trying to create the presence of, "a Norse warrior returning home from a long absence," consistent with the Narnia's long winter without Christmas.


44 posted on 12/12/2005 6:05:26 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I've never been much of a movie buff - I probably don't know "good directing" from "bad directing". I DO love the Chronicles of Narnia - from the first time I read them (at age 19) I saw the allegory VERY clearly. I was a little nervous how that would come through.

I loved the movie - I thought the scenery was pretty much how I pictured it, with the exception of one or two things. (The lampost was just a little different from how I pictured it... haha).

Alsan's size did not bother me at all - I felt his prescence was strong enough - of course I came into it with the expectation of "who" Aslan is to me.. :)

We went Friday night to the 10:15 showing... there was a line waiting to get into the theater - not as many little kids at that late of a showing. There were 7 of us - My husband and myself - my 21 year old son - and 4 teenage boys - all felt that it was a good movie - two of the boys who hadn't read the book caught the allegory.

I don't think you can compare to Lord of the Rings at all - the allegory is more clear in the Chronicles to begin with I think. I always appreciated the fact that the Chronicles could be appreciated by children and adults... where LOTR always seemed much more "adult" to me.

We all enjoyed it - I'm going to reread the rest of the books now - there were parts I didn't remember.. laugh. BUT the characters came rushing back... and I felt the same affection for them.. (or revulsion in the case of Jadis)

Oh - I enjoyed the beavers immensely - I thought they captured the spirit and personality of the "average" Christian - and even in the end the "average" Christian was in the Battle..


45 posted on 12/12/2005 7:02:14 AM PST by pamlet
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I'm not so sure about "tacked on" -- it is stressed early on that it's always winter, but never Christmas. The appearance of "Father Christmas" is one of the first signs in the book that the long winter is finally breaking.

Yes, I get that. I just don't like it. In a story so full of Christian symbolism, the Santa Claus thing doesn't fit (for me).

46 posted on 12/12/2005 10:17:03 AM PST by StrictTime
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To: Joe 6-pack

I think I would have liked the book better if CS Lewis would have written in a Norse Warrior (who could have been a symbol for John the Baptist) instead of Santa Claus!


47 posted on 12/12/2005 10:21:41 AM PST by StrictTime
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To: StrictTime
I think Lewis was trying to keep the younger reader hooked, and an old-fashioned St. Nicholas isn't particularly out of place in a Christian-themed story.
48 posted on 12/12/2005 11:22:36 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: Spiff

The CGI effects of the animals was nearly seemless. Their voices, however, sometimes did not fit their appearance and motions.

The costuming was pretty bad. The score was too.

The voices of the wolves weren't menacing at all. They sounded more like a meeting of a company's board of directors than a pack of bloodthirsty wolves. The score was really bad and sounded like it was written for an entirely different movie -- they should have used someone like John Williams. The movie as a whole overcame these flaws though.

49 posted on 12/12/2005 11:30:35 AM PST by DallasMike (Call me Dallasaurus)
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To: So Cal Rocket

I read an interview of Adamson, and he had no idea where that phrase "It is finished" came from - too funny. But you have to give the guy credit, the movie was pretty darn faithful to the Christian subtext and the book.


50 posted on 12/12/2005 5:28:59 PM PST by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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