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NFL LIVE THREAD - FINAL WEEK (Part 1 of 2)

Posted on 12/31/2005 7:13:15 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007

Today, on the final week of the NFL regular season and on the eve of the new year...

Denver vs. San Diego - 4:30 PM

Tonight...

Oakland vs. New York Giants - 8 PM on ESPN

Tomorrow shall come a new thread.

WHO SHALL WIN?


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: afc; football; gameday; nfc; nfl; profootball; spors
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1 posted on 12/31/2005 7:13:17 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); akorahil; albee; A message; andyland; Argh; b4its2late; BADROTOFINGER; ...
PING

FReepmail scott says to get on or off this ping list.

A new thread will be started tomorrow morning for the other games. It's the final week!

2 posted on 12/31/2005 7:14:14 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Go G-Men!!!!!
3 posted on 12/31/2005 7:14:21 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Are you ready for the game today? Go Broncos!!

Also, have you seen the new John Elway furniture by Bassett?


4 posted on 12/31/2005 7:16:54 AM PST by WestCoastGal (A jolly type known for a red suit and a red sleigh.!!!!! My designated driver)
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To: MattinNJ; b4its2late; ImaGraftedBranch; Dales; Cagey; YanksGiants2000; M. Thatcher; BIGLOOK; ...

New York Football Giants Ping List

Ping Ultra Sonic 007 to get on or off this ping list.

The Giants' final game of the regular season at Oakland. It's a showdown against our former QB Kerry Collins...and the only area of concern would be our depleted linebackers and our secondary (let's see how Corey Webster handles DeLoatch's responsibilities). Aside from that, I think we'll win and take the NFC East title...and a home-field Wild Card game, if nothing else. :D

And Rummyfan, are you a Giants fan? If so, want to be on the New York Football Giants ping list?

5 posted on 12/31/2005 7:16:55 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Why bother? Tom Brady will be getting yet another ring in about 5 weeks!


6 posted on 12/31/2005 7:20:59 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Yes, I'm a lonely Jints fan here in Northern Virginia! Which Giants team will show up today - the one that whupped the 'Skins 36 - 0, or the one that lost to Minne-ha-ha? No excuse to lose to the Raiders, who quit on the season four weeks ago.

Please add me to the ping list. Happy New Year!


7 posted on 12/31/2005 7:22:07 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yes - I think everyone in the AFC better watch out for the Pats.


8 posted on 12/31/2005 7:22:51 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Gay State Conservative
Here are the scenarios for teams that can clinch playoff berths in Week 17. (from NFL.com)

• Seeding Possibilities: AFC | NFC

AFC EAST DIVISION

New England has clinched division title.

AFC NORTH DIVISION

Cincinnati has clinched division title. Pittsburgh can clinch playoff berth with: 1) PIT win or tie OR 2) KC loss or tie OR 3) SD win

AFC SOUTH DIVISION

Indianapolis has clinched the division title and home-field advantage in the playoffs. Jacksonville has clinched playoff spot.

AFC WEST DIVISION

Denver has clinched division title and a first-round bye. Kansas City can clinch playoff berth with: 1) KC win + PIT loss + SD loss or tie

NFC EAST DIVISION

N.Y. Giants have clinched playoff spot N.Y. Giants can clinch division title with: 1) NYG win or tie OR 2) WAS loss or tie

Dallas can clinch playoff berth with: 1) DAL win + WAS loss or tie OR 2) DAL win + CAR loss OR 3) DAL win + TB loss + NYG loss + NYG and DAL clinch strength of victory tiebreaker over TB OR 4) DAL tie + WAS loss

Washington can clinch division title with: 1) WAS win + NYG loss Washington can clinch playoff berth with: 1) WAS win OR 2) DAL loss OR 3) WAS tie + DAL tie

NFC NORTH DIVISION

Chicago has clinched division title and a first-round bye

NFC SOUTH DIVISION

Carolina can clinch division with: 1) CAR win + TB loss or tie OR 2) CAR tie + TB loss. Carolina can clinch playoff berth with: 1) CAR win or tie OR 2) DAL loss or tie OR 3) WAS loss or tie. Tampa Bay can clinch division title with: 1) TB win OR 2) CAR loss OR 3) TB tie + CAR tie. Tampa Bay can clinch playoff berth with: 1) TB tie OR 2) DAL loss or tie OR 3) WAS loss or tie OR 4) NYG win or tie OR 5) TB clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over DAL or NYG.

NFC WEST DIVISION

Seattle has clinched division title and home-field advantage in the playoffs.

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Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit, Green Bay, Houston, Miami, Minnesota, New Orleans, N.Y. Jets, Oakland, Philadelphia, St. Louis, San Diego, San Francisco and Tennessee have been eliminated from playoff contention.

9 posted on 12/31/2005 7:27:37 AM PST by GRRRRR (Demokrats and the ACLU are the domestic enemy)
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To: Rummyfan; WestCoastGal
I think the Packer's coach, Mike Sherman, will be gone by the end of the week.

Frustrating season for the Pack, but too many coaching decisions that have been disastrous for the Packers.

10 posted on 12/31/2005 7:28:36 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Rummyfan

You're on.

Welcome aboard. :)

How long have you been a Giants fan?


11 posted on 12/31/2005 7:35:55 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: MattinNJ; b4its2late; ImaGraftedBranch; Dales; Cagey; YanksGiants2000; M. Thatcher; BIGLOOK; ...

Turn to ESPN. They're about to show a segment on Collins/Manning.


12 posted on 12/31/2005 7:37:23 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Rummyfan

This Redskins fan is pulling hard for Oakland!


13 posted on 12/31/2005 8:00:02 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Gay State Conservative
Why bother? Tom Brady will be getting yet another ring in about 5 weeks!

Ill agree that no one, not even Tony Dungy, should underestimate the Pats..

14 posted on 12/31/2005 8:04:38 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: GRRRRR

San Diego will beat the Broncos in this one......the 'Home Game' rule....in effect...


15 posted on 12/31/2005 8:14:34 AM PST by maestro
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

ping


16 posted on 12/31/2005 8:39:03 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; All

Tomorrows Bears - Vikings game is going to be Boring. The only thing that is going to be good is when Thomas Jones rushes for 1300 yards in one season (Team record set by Walter Payton)...


17 posted on 12/31/2005 8:47:26 AM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Into the Black Hole we go. Tiki will not let them lose. Let's just hope Collins reverts to form and throws a pick at the wrong time.

I must confess that I was hoping we would keep Collins, draft Sean Taylor and keep the picks instead of drafting Maning. I was wrong. That kid is special. He'll get better and better with time, especially with almost the entire offense locked into place over the next few years.

18 posted on 12/31/2005 9:02:17 AM PST by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: MattinNJ; Victoria Delsoul; Rummyfan; Mr. Mojo; thoughtomator

No kidding. Even though he's had his unfortunate mistakes (who doesn't?), he's still only played for little more than a whole season. He's young. He's a quasi-Rookie/semi-sophomore. Just because he's a Manning doesn't mean he'll be perfect all the time (would Peyton be as good as he is outside of Indianapolis' dome or without the tools he has that he's GROWN with for the last several years?). It seems many people have forgotten that.

Give him time. Who knows, he may just hit his stride today...and heading into the postseason in stride is big.


19 posted on 12/31/2005 9:06:42 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: cardinal4

Don't pull too hard or you might sprain something...


20 posted on 12/31/2005 9:29:39 AM PST by thoughtomator (How to recognize the enemy: he says "peace" and means something entirely different)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Go Bucs! Win the Division!


21 posted on 12/31/2005 9:33:09 AM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: KevinDavis

Big hullabaloo here in Chicago about the starters even playing...Wrecked GrossMan prolly won't even play???


22 posted on 12/31/2005 9:44:33 AM PST by GRRRRR (Demokrats and the ACLU are the domestic enemy)
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To: GRRRRR
Pittsburgh can clinch playoff berth with: 1) PIT win or tie OR 2) KC loss or tie OR 3) SD win

If San Diego is already eliminated and Denver is already a lock, do you happen to know why a SD win puts Pittsburgh in the playoffs?

23 posted on 12/31/2005 10:23:17 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: thoughtomator
Don't pull too hard or you might sprain something...

Are you kidding? I have been on vacation since the 15th, its an effort just to will a team to win! Its back to work and school on tuesday, though.....:(

24 posted on 12/31/2005 10:29:58 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Gay State Conservative

And it looks like Bruschi is going to be fine for the playoffs.


25 posted on 12/31/2005 11:26:26 AM PST by bikepacker67
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To: Forest Keeper

I have not a clue...the matchup stuff is black art voodoo...

Only some maintenance guy at the NFL headquarters knows...he switches it all up at night...likely to be in division/out of division won-lost on toadal points vs. etc.

LOL

G


26 posted on 12/31/2005 11:48:56 AM PST by GRRRRR (Demokrats and the ACLU are the domestic enemy)
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To: GRRRRR
...the matchup stuff is black art voodoo...

Ain't it the truth, but thanks anyway. It just seems weird to me that an eliminated team can bring in a third party by beating an uninvolved team (since Denver has already clinched a bye).

All I can figure is that if SD wins, maybe that gives them a better division record than KC, thus eliminating them. Then, Pittsburgh beats out SD on tie-breaks even if Pitt. loses. I'm a Steeler fan, so I'll take any ticket to the playoffs I can get.

27 posted on 12/31/2005 12:13:57 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper

From ESPN.com....


3. A Chargers win (note: although Chargers have been eliminated, if they win vs. Broncos and they, the Chiefs and the Steelers all finish at 10-6, you would break division ties first. Chargers would win tiebreaker vs. Chiefs based on common opponents [8-4 vs 7-5] and that would eliminate the Chiefs. They would then go to tiebreaker vs. Steelers, which Pittsburgh would win based on its head-to-head win vs. Chargers).


28 posted on 12/31/2005 12:21:52 PM PST by nhoward14
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To: GRRRRR

Go Eagles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*


* Since a Washington loss opens the playoff door for Dallas. My support of the Eagles is a one-game-only event.


29 posted on 12/31/2005 12:24:44 PM PST by nhoward14
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To: nhoward14

Thanks for that, nhoward14. I guess I was pretty close with my guess. Cool. Good luck with your game.


30 posted on 12/31/2005 12:43:42 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper

San Diego to win this one,....'Home Field' win rule is ON.


31 posted on 12/31/2005 1:55:14 PM PST by maestro
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

A pre season game is more interesting than this DEN-SD game.


32 posted on 12/31/2005 2:46:28 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

Yep. BORING. (is watching Naruto on Cartoon Network instead)


33 posted on 12/31/2005 3:44:43 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I bet even KC and PIT fans are having a hard time getting through this one.


34 posted on 12/31/2005 3:47:39 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Giants-Raiders underway on ESPN.


35 posted on 12/31/2005 5:06:51 PM PST by darkangel82
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Game time.

Raiders have the ball.


36 posted on 12/31/2005 5:07:36 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
'Bout time!


37 posted on 12/31/2005 5:11:29 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
The two most penalized teams in the NFL. ....could be a long game.

G-Men should win even if they don't play anywhere near their potential. This could be the worst Raiders team ....well, since 1962 (when they went 1 - 13).

38 posted on 12/31/2005 5:15:17 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Exciting start. /sarcasm


39 posted on 12/31/2005 5:18:21 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

That should have been ruled a catch and down by contact.


40 posted on 12/31/2005 5:22:11 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

WOW!!!


41 posted on 12/31/2005 5:23:29 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan; Mr. Mojo; Victoria Delsoul; thoughtomator

And Tiki has a 95-yard for a touchdown. He now has the most rushing touchdowns in Giants history...and he broke a 75-year old record with that run.

Excellent.

7-0, Giants.


42 posted on 12/31/2005 5:24:30 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Very nice how he waited for his blockers to catch up with him. Younger backs wouldn't have had the sense to do that.


43 posted on 12/31/2005 5:25:31 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
My guys just finished putting it to San Diego. With the Broncos at 13-3 maybe they'll get a little respect for the next two weeks. I think the Sea Hawks are the only NFC team with a chance to go the distance... The Pats are peaking at the right time (for them) as are my Broncos. I'm not underestimating Manning and Co. either they've been great all year.
44 posted on 12/31/2005 5:26:20 PM PST by hford02 (I can't decide who hates America the most; the DNC or Al Queda)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Fumble recovery! The Giants may put this one to bed early.


45 posted on 12/31/2005 5:27:15 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan; Mr. Mojo; b4its2late; BIGLOOK; Victoria Delsoul

Fumble.

Giants' ball.


46 posted on 12/31/2005 5:27:45 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: hford02

Prior to Indy's two post season spankings of the Broncos...Denver knocked them around on a Sunday night in Indy in 2003.


47 posted on 12/31/2005 5:28:34 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Starting to look like last night's Peach Bowl.


48 posted on 12/31/2005 5:28:56 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Right call.


49 posted on 12/31/2005 5:31:15 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Overturned.
Zebras suck.


50 posted on 12/31/2005 5:31:23 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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