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Old Egypt investigator identifies to mysterious Hyksos kings [sic]
Rowley Regis Online ^ | Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:47 pm | mariafvp

Posted on 03/28/2006 10:58:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Georgeos Diaz-Montexano, scriptologist and Egyptologist amateur, has been able to identify the names of the Hyksos kings like pertaining to the group of languages and proto-Greek or Mycenaean's dialects.

The true ethnic origin of the mysterious Hyksos that were able to take control of the power of a considerable part of Old Egypt, during centuries XVII to the XVI before Christ, has been always a true challenge for the Egyptologists. However, the generalized opinion more for a long time has been that the Hyksos would be Semitic towns, fundamentally coastal inhabitants of the strip Syrian-Palestine, that is, Canaanites or proto-Phoenicians. Nevertheless, as it indicates Diaz-Montexano, to date an identification had not been made signs or solid of each one of the names of the Hyksos kings according to the data contributed by Manetho in its chronicle of Egypt; in fact, as soon as only two of the six names of Hyksos kings mentioned by this Egyptian amanuenses have been able to relate approximately - to other two names of Semitic origin.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; egypt; epigraphy; etymology; godsgravesglyphs; greeks; hyksos; language; mycenaean; mycenaeans; pharaoh; phoenician; phoenicians; semites
Georgeos Diaz-Montexano? This article was posted while my incredulity was makin' a midnight snack. Shh! I think I hear him closin' the fridge...

1 posted on 03/28/2006 10:58:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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Reconstruction of a fresh minoan of Avaris, capital of the Hyksos in Egypt Reconstruction of a fresh minoan of Avaris, capital of the Hyksos in Egypt

2 posted on 03/28/2006 10:59:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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Salitis, or a "jumps, dancer". Fresh Minoan of Avaris, capital of the Hyksos in Egypt
Salitis, or a jumps, dancer

3 posted on 03/28/2006 11:00:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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4 posted on 03/28/2006 11:00:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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the two most closely related topics on FR:

Battlements Found At Egypt's Ancient East Gateway
Reuters | 6-30-2004
Posted on 07/01/2004 11:17:17 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1164080/posts

King of the Wild Frontier (Hyksos art and architecture in the Sinai)
Al-Ahram Weekly | 2005 | Nevine El-Aref
Posted on 08/15/2005 10:33:49 PM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1464082/posts


5 posted on 03/28/2006 11:02:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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Hyksos scarab
Hyksos scarab

6 posted on 03/28/2006 11:06:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sorry, but I do not buy this "theory". Back to the drawing board...


7 posted on 03/29/2006 1:49:08 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: SunkenCiv

Does anyone see this scarab think Celtic? If so it would validate them coming from the north rather than the east.


8 posted on 03/29/2006 1:57:10 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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To: gleeaikin
Does anyone see this scarab think Celtic? If so it would validate them coming from the north rather than the east.

Can you show me some evidence that the Celts where the only people on the planet that had the mental capacity to draw double spirals? Thank you.
9 posted on 03/29/2006 2:45:53 AM PST by S0122017 (God created the aliens which guided evolution which produced the human race and that's the Truth.)
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To: gleeaikin

These same designs are found on Maltese monoliths, that predate Celtic designs by thousands of years.


10 posted on 03/29/2006 4:00:25 AM PST by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: SunkenCiv

I want a Stargate...


11 posted on 03/29/2006 6:49:59 AM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: abner

I want a mothership


12 posted on 03/29/2006 7:37:31 AM PST by S0122017 (God created the aliens which guided evolution which produced the human race and that's the Truth.)
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To: S0122017

I would settle for a mothership. Yep. I would.


13 posted on 03/29/2006 7:49:03 AM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: S0122017; Renfield

Yes, Malta, definitely to the North and not the East. But I seem to recall seeing similar designs in some early British stone structures. New Grange ? or others.


14 posted on 03/29/2006 9:21:32 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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To: AdmSmith

I don't either, but thought it was interesting and fun. The Hyksos were what we would call Arabs.


15 posted on 03/29/2006 9:23:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: gleeaikin

It was once thought that the wheel was invented just once, and then diffused out across the Earth (other than into the Americas; this is still used as an alibi for isolationism). Those little squiggles aren't really indicative of some older source etc.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 9:51:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: gleeaikin

The little wave patterns aren't the same as the spiral maze gizmos found throughout Europe, nor are they as old. :')


17 posted on 03/29/2006 9:53:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Current thinking is that the Hyksos were from the northern Agean, which would make them proto-Greeks.


18 posted on 03/29/2006 1:12:18 PM PST by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: SunkenCiv

"Rowley Regis online" is a pretty obscure web site. How on earth did you find this?


19 posted on 03/29/2006 1:18:13 PM PST by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: Renfield
The website turned up in a Google search for, hmm, I forget what. Maybe it was something to do with the Hyksos, I don't recall. But anyway...
Current thinking is that the Hyksos were from the northern Agean,
I'm really, really not aware of any such thinking. It has been claimed (for years, really) that at least some of the Sea Peoples (who are much later in Egyptian history) came from the Greek islands, the mainland, and from Anatolia. That's not my view, but it is very common. I've never heard any such origin offered for the Hyksos.
20 posted on 03/29/2006 10:12:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: SunkenCiv

"....I'm really, really not aware of any such thinking. It has been claimed (for years, really) that at least some of the Sea Peoples (who are much later in Egyptian history) came from the Greek islands, the mainland, and from Anatolia. That's not my view, but it is very common. I've never heard any such origin offered for the Hyksos...."

I made posted my remark before linking to the article and reading it, but the author evidently agrees with me:

"..."...These names only appear registered in the oldest dialects of the Greek, which does not seem no chance. If my hypothesis arrives to be accepted by the experts in Greek philology and Indo-European, in the names of kings Hyksos de Manetho we would have a testimony of the older Indo-European forms known these names that later superlived in the Doric's and Aeolian Greek dialects. Dialects that are considered already existed at the same time of the Dynasties of the Hyksos... I probably think that the Hyksos could be proto-Greek Indo-European towns, of Minoico-Mycenean origin, and this would explain the considerable amount of found evidences of this civilization in Avaris... ". - Diaz Montexano comments...."

(Babelfish makes a mess of things, doesn't it?)


21 posted on 03/30/2006 4:34:11 AM PST by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: Renfield
Yes, obviously the article I posted sez so, but that's the only source. The author quoted a guy who cooks up even more stuff than I do. ;')
Google

22 posted on 03/30/2006 7:22:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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Manfred Bietak related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/891225/posts?page=20#20
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971487/posts?page=132#132
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1180724/posts?page=18#18
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1457410/posts?page=13#13


23 posted on 04/01/2006 10:14:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/999861/posts


24 posted on 04/01/2006 10:17:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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from Xenohistorian:
KUP, Chapter 6
by Charles Kimball
Recently Manfred Bietak, the archaeologist who is excavating ancient Avaris, reported the discovery of a room covered with Minoan frescoes, and dated it to the beginning of the XVIII dynasty; presumably this was a place where Minoan traders or ambassadors stayed, while visiting the main city of northeast Egypt.
And from another web search:
Helmi, Ezbet
Formerly called Tell el-Qirqafa. Amsterdam University survey of 1984 noted the presence of a quartzite block in the village, measuring 100 x (75+) x 17cm, pierced by a central square shaft. This site was probably the location of the Djadu of the 12th dynasty, found by Labib Habachi. Now the site is the focus of a major excavation by the Austrian Institute, working under cultivated fields some 800 metres west of their excavations at Tell ed-Daba. Major discoveries include Minoan wall paintings, an Eighteenth Dynasty palace, a Hyksos palace and water-supply system.
images of Bietak's Minoan finds, from "Minoan Wall-Paintings unearthed at Ancient Avaris":
Gallery 1
Gallery 2
Gallery 3

25 posted on 04/01/2006 10:22:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Bietak, M., Minoan Wall-Paintings unearthed at Ancient Avaris, Egyptian Archaeology. The Bulletin of the Egyptian Exploration Society 2, 1992, p. 26.
Minoan Wall-Paintings unearthed at Ancient Avaris

26 posted on 04/01/2006 10:30:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Manfred Bietak:
Google

27 posted on 04/01/2006 10:31:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

On the other hand, here is a web site that claims that the Hykso were none other than the ancient Jews! (makes a pretty good argument for it, too....)

http://www.imninalu.net/Hyksos.htm


28 posted on 04/04/2006 4:53:59 PM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: Renfield

:') But that isn't true, and the arguments aren't sound, just rehashed anti-Jewish junk, some of which dates to ancient times (Apion, most notoriously; but also Josephus, who wrote "Against Apion" as a rebuttal to Apion's "Against the Jews").


29 posted on 04/04/2006 10:31:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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