Skip to comments.Gallina [NM] Man Killed by Pit Bull
Posted on 05/06/2006 6:55:06 AM PDT by maxwell
Gallina Man Killed by Pit Bull
Juan Garcia attacked, dragged 50 feet
By Mike Gisick and John M. Foster
Rio Grande SUN
A Gallina handyman was mauled by a pit bull Tuesday, then dragged by the dog more than 50 feet, a Rio Arriba County Sheriffs deputy said. Juan Garcia, 52, died after the attack, which happened at a home off County Road 419 in Gallina.
The dog was later found covered in blood, Rio Arriba County Sheriff's Deputy J.B. Turner said. The dog, named Max, belongs to Julie Coletta Pederson. Pederson told deputies she had no idea what Garcia was doing at the property but acknowledged he occasionally did some odd jobs.
Turner said the victim arrived at the yard Tuesday to find the pit bull behind a gate. However, the gate was "feeble" and the dog managed to push through the bottom.
Once out, the dog began mauling Garcia, then dragged the man 50 to 60 feet down a hill. Two other dogs were present but there was no sign either was involved in the attack, Turner said.
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My point is, these things add up. I also emphasize that I am not necessarily blaming the victim since I don't know the whole story.
For the thread police: I searched and didn't find this posted already.
Gallina is about 2.5 hr west of Taos.
yes people need to learn how to kill dogs
Rio Arriba, a very strange part of the world.
Right. They should be brought in for questioning - eyewitnesses, you know ....
It sure is beautiful country though.
And elect politicians who will not get in their way when they need to kill dogs...
I should try to find the article that came out in the Santa Fe New Mexican the other week, where city management is pondering a pit bull ban. They will hit some hardcore opposition to a ban that will be virtually unenforceable, except that they might have better luck with tracking down dogs than meth labs.
Ahhh, the bustling metropoli of both Coyote and Gallina.....
.....this little incident will live long in the lore of those two hubs of commerce, industry and culture!
</small town sarcasm off>
Enlighten us to the technique on killing a pitbull because Guns don't do it very well!
Maybe Bob Schultz can work this case. :)
I am waiting for the near-inevitable "dog-of-peace" poster to show up. Not trying to start a rumble, here; looking for serious discussion and dissection of why this incident occurred. "All pits should be shot" is not a valid answer in my book.
there is allways one
here try this for a start
With some very strange people living there. I watched the TV news report of this incident, and the woman that owned the dog showed absolutely no remorse or caring about the death of the man, in fact, seemed to have a sappy smile on her face during most of the interview....wonder what she was smoking.
You'd think that pit bulls and meth labs would go together.
Most everyone here has a dog with some pit in it though. Why punish the many for the sins of the few?
Pecos is just SE of Santa Fe. My speculation is, some type of breeding/fighting operations were being run in conjunction to the canine property security deal.
It is up to responsible dog owners to make a stand and counteract such delinquency.
I am not going on that thread.
It's amazing that a grown man could be killed by this dog.
It's usually women and children first.
But, dogs are incredibly strong.
Bubba, for example, my exceedingly large and even more exceedingly greedy, Lab wanted to get at a bird. A bird carcass that is.
I was holding with all my might, he had a pinch collar on. It should have hurt him a little to pull like that.
I couldn't hold him. I called to a passer by to help me and he gave me the, "Lady, you've gotta be kidding" look.
Can't really blame him. Bubba is big and black. But then, so was he.
Funny how strong animals are.
But Pit Bulls are really sweet and misunderstood.
Most everyone here has a dog with some pit in it??
So, I guess "most everyone here" lives in hell, is that your conclusion.
Congrats on making the final 100 most stupid statements I've read on FR.
My knee-jerk assumption is that you're being sarcastic...
Regardless: pits are misunderstood. People misunderstand how to handle them effectively, and when that misjudgement plays itself out in violence, folks hit one extreme or the other. I gave up painting the world in black-and-white a long time ago.
Only on my third cup of coffee, so not sure where this is coming from.
I'm positive that I could come up with some real whing-bangers if you're looking for stupid comments, however.
Hey, I'm sorry I said that. I haven't had much coffee at all, just a third of a cup.
I'd question what the guy was doing to cause the dog to get so mad as to get out of the gate in the first place. Sounds more likely the dog was doing it's duty in guarding the property.
Another one for ya!
This was my first speculation, hence my comment above about not judging the vic since I don't have more info.
No problem, just trying to understand where that was coming from.
"Pederson is the ex-wife of Antony Coletta, Turner said. Antony Coletta was arrested Oct. 6, 2005, after he entered an Española casino with $22,000 in cash, a handgun and a badge, claiming to be an international police agent."
"Davis said she spoke with Antony Coletta last week, and he told her that he and Garcia had been having a disagreement. Coletta then left the store as Garcia arrived in the parking lot, Davis said. She said she saw the two men arguing outside, but did not know what the argument was about."
I ran across an article a couple a days ago that has some additional info...
"Deputies are trying to determine whether Garcia was intoxicated at the time of the attack after finding a can of beer at the scene.
Coletta says that Garcia, who had done work for her in the past, had been told that he wasnt supposed to be at her home unless she was there.
Not rushing to judgement here, but sounding more and more like the vic was contributing to things.
Like I am trying to hammer home above, these situations seem to be alot more complex than "devil-pit ruthlessly mauls innocent human out of the wild blue yonder".
You don't know that dogs bounce off the fence trying to get at whoever's on the other side? They're always trying to burrow out, like this one did. Some are chained and all they do is try to break the chain.
" Sounds more likely the dog was doing it's duty in guarding the property."
Then the dog would be inside the house. Else the entire house must be securely fenced and marked. This dog was outside it's fence.
It's amazing that a grown man could be killed by this dog.
42 year old male owner killed by his Pits last year:
It's true that now and again Pit Bulls carry off the odd child, perhaps devour a letter carrier or two every once in a while, or occasionally kill some blundering handy-man who wrongfully invades their "turf."
But it's a big country, Max. These few hundred, or certainly no more than a thousand or two, cases evey year are nothing compared to the hours of pleasure and guard service these wonderful pets render their sensitive and caring owners, many of whom belong to colorful neighborhood organizations, and some of whom are engaged in ground-breaking research in domestic production of OTC pharmaceuticals.
Yes, Max, the brave Pit Bull is a breed apart, and so are their owners. In fact, I think Pit Bull owners should be allowed to share their cells with their pets.
It is illegal to set booby traps in ones yard or home for would be lawbreakers while owning dogs that have a reputation of attacking people is perfectly legal. I believe this is food for thought for lawmakers.
Right clever of you, Ken. Pat yerself on the back there.
Now: you and I see this orthogonally. The way I see it, some "fine and noble" homo erecti are being maligned.
I guess that is one way to look at it.
Acknowledging gray areas can also be a mark of pragmatism. We could get into alot here.
Personal property rights should also be food for thought for lawmakers.
I agree. This is where the concept of responsible stewardship of one's property comes in.
"I agree. This is where the concept of responsible stewardship of one's property comes in."
Responsible stewardship for a Pit Bull: Roofed steel wire cage, steel wire floor in cage two feet down. Chain collar, chain leash (To be put on before opening the door, dog must come to the wire), two or three bulls in secure ring, excercise dog on bulls 3 times a week.
True, but many personal property rights are limited by law and many of the limitations pertain to public safety.
In many if not the majority of cases like this, the owner is as much responsible as the animal. If laws were enacted that make the owner responsible for the actions of their pets, I believe people would take the responsibility of owning one much more seriously.
It is a pathetic thing that in this day and age we have hundreds of people a year in our country being killed and maimed by so-called pets.
I hear the people of Gallina taste like chicken.
Gallina Man? Is that like a manbearpig?
This is supposed to be a serial thread, dude.
You are confusing "property rights" with "liability"
The victim could have easily been a meter reader from a utility company or a kid merely chasing a ball onto the front yard. The liability is still the same for the owner.
The real question here is the owner criminally responsible for the man's death?
"Did the dogs previously escape from the feeble gate?"
"Any previous complaints about the dogs viciousness?"
"Was the maintenance man invited or is this just a CYA story?"
"Did she know Pit Bulls lead in human fatalities and failed to secure them properly?"
A few Yesses and she's looking at potential Manslaughter charges.
Oh... My condolences to the victim, since it was never mentioned.
I agree that the burden is on the owner.
That's so true. About the spiritus mundi in the doggy.
I cannot keep Bubba from birds. He somehow knows he is supposed to retrieve birds. Unfortunately, that is where his knowledge stops. He will not drop them or return them to master. He will carry them home and finally 'leave' when his father explains the situation to him.
The point is that Pit Bulls have a strain of madness and aggression. sometimes it never comes out during a dog's lifetime. Probably most times it doesn't.
But why take a chance on this breed when there are so many good dogs of all sizes and temperments in the world.
Don't end up being the granny who says, "Fang was always so sweet with my little Tommy. I don't understand why Fang decided to maim Tommy. Oh, well, Tommy is in a better place now."
I had adopted and old cockatiel.
It never had much human interaction and so was a challenge to get it to be friendly.
I gave it the run of my room and it used to fly around occassionally.
Sometimes it would land on the bed near my dog and he would just look at it.
One day I was crouched on the floor next to my dog when 'Birdee' swooped down and landed (crashed) on the floor right before us.
My dog lunged forward and the next thing I saw was the dog's closed mouth with a couple of feathers sticking out.
In retrospect it was funny. The dog had the look of 'okay what do I do now' about him.
I was very concerned and gave him the 'ptuii' command to drop it.
He opened his mouth and out hopped Birdee no worse for wear.
It was interesting that his instinct was to capture the bird yet he did so with a gentle mouth and he is not what is usually known as a bird dog.
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