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Britney baby buggy blunder - again!
NY Daily News ^ | May 16, 2006 | Michelle Caruso

Posted on 05/16/2006 9:04:54 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

LOS ANGELES - Oops ... the child-care-challenged Britney Spears has done it again. First Mommy Spears-est got nailed for driving with her baby son in her lap like a toy poodle. Now she could be busted for improperly installing a child safety seat in her car, state officials say.

The pregnant pop princess was spotted tooling around in her convertible Mini Cooper with 8-month-old Sean Preston slumped over in a forward-facing car seat. Federal regulations say kiddie seats should face backward until a child is a year old.

"It's far safer if the seat is facing backwards to avoid head-on injuries and whiplash in case of a collision," said California Highway Patrol spokesman Tom Marshall.

Spears, 24, "could be" cited for violating Section 27360 of the California Vehicle Code, which says child safety seats must be installed to comply with the federal standard.

"We would have to witness the violation. We can't issue a citation from a photograph," Marshall said.

"It's a bit of a gray area," he added, because state code doesn't specify the backward installation - a federal regulation does.

Spears' rep did not return calls for comment yesterday.

"We strongly urge anyone who is uncertain of how to install a car seat to come down to one of our headquarters and get help. We offer that service free of charge," said Marshall.

How about highchairs?

Spears, who recently confirmed she's expecting a second child, and hubby Kevin Federline rushed Sean to the hospital last month for a bumped noggin after he fell from a highchair that reportedly "snapped" and broke while a nanny was lifting him out. Child welfare officials investigated but cleared the couple of any wrongdoing.

In February, Spears got a visit and a warning from the cops after she was photographed driving illegally with her son in her lap. She admitted she "made a mistake" but blamed paparazzi for hounding her.


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1 posted on 05/16/2006 9:04:55 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Ditz.


2 posted on 05/16/2006 9:05:27 AM PDT by b4its2late (If it's treason, there's no doubt a democrat is standing behind it.)
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To: COUNTrecount
I often wonder how I survived growing up in the 1970s. No baby seats, no seat belts, mom smoking while driving, etc.
3 posted on 05/16/2006 9:07:02 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: COUNTrecount

"Federal regulations say kiddie seats should face backward until a child is a year old."

1 year OR 20 lbs. If the baby weighs 21 pounds, he can face that way. An 8 month old probably doesn't weigh that much though, (although my first weighed over 20 at ~ 10 months).


4 posted on 05/16/2006 9:07:08 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: b4its2late

The rear seat in a convertible is very windy. Who in their right mind would expose a baby to that? And you know she didn't put sunscreen on the baby.


5 posted on 05/16/2006 9:07:47 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: 2banana
I often wonder how I survived growing up in the 1970s

That makes 2 of us.

6 posted on 05/16/2006 9:08:12 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: COUNTrecount

What kind of carseat is that, that he is slumped over sleeping like that

It looks like a carseat for a 3-5 yr. old


7 posted on 05/16/2006 9:08:31 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: COUNTrecount

The car seat in the picture is installed properly, but it's too big for the baby.


8 posted on 05/16/2006 9:09:04 AM PDT by garv
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To: COUNTrecount

Stupid is as stupid does..........


9 posted on 05/16/2006 9:09:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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To: Flightdeck; Foxfire4

I don't know. Ours was 9 pounds coming out, 13 at two months. She's going for her four-month checkup tomorrow and I expect she's 16-17 pounds. She'll probably break 20 before 8 months, and then it's time for a new car seat. She's a big healthy happy (mostly!) girl.

}:-)4


10 posted on 05/16/2006 9:09:59 AM PDT by Moose4 (Please don't call me "white trash." I prefer "Caucasian recyclable.")
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To: 2banana

Tell me about it. I used to ride the armrest in the front seat. I would crack up laughing when I got flung in to the backseat at a hard stop.


11 posted on 05/16/2006 9:11:42 AM PDT by retrokitten
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To: COUNTrecount
Nice set of laws we have.

It's legal to kill 'em but don't you dare have them facing forward in their car seats!!

Pathetic.

12 posted on 05/16/2006 9:11:58 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: 2banana

2b,
So very true.

When I was a tiny young stud (3, 4) I sometimes travelled laying across the front benchseat with my head in mommy's lap.

A little older, I rode with my back against the passenger door, facing my mother. Til the door gave one day and I landed in the road on my back. Not long after I took the dashboard taste test in a little fender bender.

Through it all seat belt use was unknown.


13 posted on 05/16/2006 9:12:02 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: ladyjane
In every other parallel universe she is a stripper in Tampa.
14 posted on 05/16/2006 9:12:17 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Flightdeck

Yeah, mine is 8 months in 2 more weeks- judging by how my arms feel at the end of the day, he broke 20lbs since his last check-up.

But damn they don't give those seats away.


15 posted on 05/16/2006 9:14:18 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: COUNTrecount
Child welfare officials investigated but cleared the couple of any wrongdoing. ... In February, Spears got a visit and a warning from the cops after she was photographed driving illegally with her son in her lap.

Ms. Spears certainly doesn't sound like Mother-of-the-Year material, but I'm more outraged by all this nanny-state intrusion than by anything Britney's done.

16 posted on 05/16/2006 9:14:19 AM PDT by oremites
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To: 2banana

LOL...yep, same here, I rememeber a few trips in the back of the pick-up too as a kid. I suppose I should be long dead by now


17 posted on 05/16/2006 9:17:22 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: ladyjane

Yes, you are correct. Bugs must be bouncing off the kids head too.......not to mention stuff getting in the kids eyes.....


18 posted on 05/16/2006 9:19:24 AM PDT by b4its2late (If it's treason, there's no doubt a democrat is standing behind it.)
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To: Gefreiter
My favorite place to ride was in the small space behind the back seat of a VW Beetle.

Or, of course, sleeping in the back of the station wagon.

19 posted on 05/16/2006 9:22:14 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: retrokitten

When I was 3, I was in a terrible car accident and flew through the front windshield, because I was not strapped in and was sitting on a lady's lap in the front seat (no seat belt for her either).

I almost was killed, but luckily a nurse was the first on the scene and started picking all the glass out of my face and giving me care. I can still remember them cutting my favorite turtle neck shirt off because of the glass on my face and I remember screaming for my mommy and daddy.

But still, if there's protection for your children, there's a reason for it and a good parent would us it, as directed.

Brittany is not a very good parent, imo.


20 posted on 05/16/2006 9:23:26 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Ask not what the government can do for you. Ask why it doesn't.)
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To: Gefreiter
A little older, I rode with my back against the passenger door, facing my mother. Til the door gave one day and I landed in the road on my back

Hey, Me too!

21 posted on 05/16/2006 9:27:44 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to Help)
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To: COUNTrecount

You can take the girl out of the trailer park...


22 posted on 05/16/2006 9:32:56 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Bayonet the wounded!)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I fell out of an AMC Hornet ca 1978. Pure dumb luck that we weren't going fast. A little lumpy and a little road rash, but nothing serious.

Djoo get hurt?


23 posted on 05/16/2006 9:39:25 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: COUNTrecount

These morons should hire a "personal child safety consultant" to review whatever safety steps they are taking before they go out in public.


24 posted on 05/16/2006 9:42:11 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Lucky9teen
I'm sorry you had to go through that, but I do not think we need federal laws to tell people to strap their kids into car seats. Too many stupid laws go through because they are "for the children". When I was a baby (and probably for most freepers over 25) things like car seats either weren't available or weren't in wide usage like they are now.

Is she a bad mother? No, she shouldn't have been driving with the kid on her lap like she was a few months ago, but in this case I am going to reserve judgment. It's 1 photograph that is circulating. He could have been wriggling around and that is when the shutter snapped. Could have been a 5 minute drive. I don't know.
25 posted on 05/16/2006 9:44:29 AM PDT by retrokitten
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To: Moose4

I expect Vlad to hit 20 lbs. before 6 months, but we'll keep him in the original car seat until his head hangs over the top, or he can sit up independently. The rear-facing vs. forward issue is really about how well they can sit up, which varies from one child to another.


26 posted on 05/16/2006 9:47:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh 50% less on Mars!)
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To: Gefreiter
Djoo get hurt?

Surprised.

c1955 leaning against the door of one of these when the vehicle just wasn't there anymore. About 30-40 mph, fortunately country road, soft sand beside, hit and rolled. Couldn't have done it better if I'd been through paratroop school.

27 posted on 05/16/2006 9:57:29 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to Help)
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To: ladyjane

I was thinking the same thing. It looks like the car seat straps are up to high, but that is nothing compared to all that wind and debris blowing around in his face. I knew she was blonde for a reason!


28 posted on 05/16/2006 10:25:59 AM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: Horatio Gates

When I was little we would ride sometimes up on the back of the seat just under the rear window. I know, really dumb but at night time it was fun to ride there and look up at the stars. :)


29 posted on 05/16/2006 10:39:12 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: Gefreiter

My little brother did this! He (at 3yo) was leaning against the door handle when my mom went around a corner. Luckily my sister was in the back seat and saw him go out!

Meanwhile, Britney needs some parenting classes.


30 posted on 05/16/2006 10:49:22 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Flightdeck
1 year OR 20 lbs. If the baby weighs 21 pounds, he can face that way. An 8 month old probably doesn't weigh that much though, (although my first weighed over 20 at ~ 10 months).

Sorry -- it's one year and 20 lbs, according to American Academy of Pediatrics recommendations:

Children should face the rear of the vehicle until they are at least 1 year of age and weigh at least 20 lb to decrease the risk of cervical spine injury in the event of a crash. Infants who weigh 20 lb before 1 year of age should ride rear facing in a convertible seat or infant seat approved for higher weights until at least 1 year of age. If a car safety seat accommodates children rear facing to higher weights, for optimal protection, the child should remain rear facing until reaching the maximum weight for the car safety seat, as long as the top of the head is below the top of the seat back.
I just read here that Britney's record company is now claiming she did nothing wrong because her eight-month-old son is over 20 lbs. But he's not over a year old yet.

My youngest is 4½ months old, and was a hair under 19 lbs at his four-month check up. He'll be 20 lbs. any day now. I'm not going to switch him to a forward-facing because he's over 20 lbs. Rather, I'll get a convertible seat like the one his two-year-old sister rides in, but keep it rear-facing until he's at least a year old.

It's not a question of complying with the law or too many federal regulations for me. It's a question of keeping my kids as safe as possible.

31 posted on 05/16/2006 11:45:44 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: King of Florida

Hmmm, I was told at the hospital it was either/or. I wonder if the American Academy of Pediatrics recommendations are more conservative than the federal regulation that is what Britney's record company is claiming compliance with?

No argument here on keeping your kid safe, though. I've got another one popping out in a month. The way people drive around here, it's probably best to limit their car experiences as much as possible.


32 posted on 05/16/2006 12:01:26 PM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: b4its2late

Somebody give this poor clueless girl some parenting lessons before it's too late!


33 posted on 05/16/2006 12:05:02 PM PDT by derllak
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To: derllak
LOL! She does need assistance.

I wonder if she is doing everything, feeding, changing, etc or just the "fun" things with her child.

34 posted on 05/16/2006 12:14:45 PM PDT by b4its2late (If it's treason, there's no doubt a democrat is standing behind it.)
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To: EmilyGeiger

I had a few night time car trips like that. I have a few pics my parents tok of me sleeping behind the rear passener seat of our 66 VW Beetle on one of our summer road trips. We're brininging back some childhood memories here!


35 posted on 05/16/2006 12:45:02 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: Tax-chick

In our state I believe it is 1 year old AND 20 lbs.


36 posted on 05/16/2006 5:50:15 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: pnz1

Probably the same here. We keep the babies in the original seat-carrier as long as possible, because when the youngest needs a bigger seat, everybody else has to "move up," too, and we have to reconfigure the whole van, which is a real pain.


37 posted on 05/16/2006 6:32:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh 50% less on Mars!)
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