Posted on 07/15/2006 10:48:32 AM PDT by Xing Daorong
I don't understand, some people say that Islam is responsible for terrorism today, rather than those who manipulate and perversely interpret Islam to further their murderous aims.
Islam is so similiar to Christianity that there isn't even a point to it, every quote showing "Judeao-Christian hatred" can be logically explained by anyone who has read the Quran.
We have groups like Muslims for Bush (now Muslims for America) a primarily Republican group of American muslims supporting the War on Terror.
Anyone who threatens to kill my family will not be loved.
I wouldn't put much stock in number games. With the right words and images, it is easy to manipulate any number of people. One billion is not a stretch when you think of all the socialists and liberals in the world, with quite a significant number within our own borders.
52 million voted for a traitor and self-professed war criminal to be the President of the United States. Millions more outside America support his candidacy.
Not far-fetched at all.
Welcome to FR! How did you manage to post on July13 and sign up on July 14?
"Welcome to FR! How did you manage to post on July13 and sign up on July 14?"
No idea.
Xot.
Gvie me a quote and I will be glad to.
Correct, as well as the most vicious groups are attributed to radical Salafi Islam, but groups claiming to be 'Christian' like the Lord's Army in Uganda will rape a child's mother and cut her throat right in front of them, they will burn and steal and shoot, they are another form of radicalism.
"but groups claiming to be 'Christian' like the Lord's Army in Uganda will rape a child's mother and cut her throat right in front of them, they will burn and steal and shoot, they are another form of radicalism."
Ah, but they have no scriptural justification for this.
Unlike Muslims, who have the evil example of their prophet and the war sura that abrogates what little peace there is in the Koran.
Oh is that so? Perhaps you do not know that like us Muslims pray to Jesus and believe he is a prophet, they have a different story as to what happened to Jesus. They do know God and that by being a good person they will get into heaven, hell in the Quran is described as a fiery pit where those condemned drink from a salty well.
Give me the passages you are talking about and I will be glad to explain.
"Perhaps you do not know that like us Muslims pray to Jesus and believe he is a prophet, they have a different story as to what happened to Jesus."
Muslims do not pray to Jesus. That would be apostasy. In fact, they believe that in the end times he will return and kill all the Christians (break all the crosses) and that he's a lesser prophet to Mad Mo.
"They do know God and that by being a good person they will get into heaven, hell in the Quran is described as a fiery pit where those condemned drink from a salty well."
Allah is not Jehovah and this "good person" stuff is not required in the Koran. Unless you define "good person" differently than most.
They aren't trying to kill us, and does the word 'terrorist' indicate maybe why many of them aren't actively going against them? They are violent thugs who will kill one and his whole family for doing something they believe contrary to their own perverse interpretation of Islam. Remember what happened to Anwar al-Sadat, former president of Egypt for signing a peace accord with Israel's prime minister Menechim Begin?
"Christians condemn other Christians constantly if they murder or condone violence against others."
By holding massive protests?
Or by voicing hatred and disgust anonymously on message boards?
We take it at face value that millions in America don't suport terrorism despite never hearing their opinions on such matters or witnessing large scale protests.
Is silence or noise really a good indicator of politics/beliefs? There is a reason we have the term 'silent majority'. If silence is complicit approval and political activism demonstrates the true direction of a nation state or group, then Americans hate the war on Iraq (because of all the liberals protesting) and many Americans support the libs because there are no frequent, large scale counter demonstrations by the majority of the American people. If we can give the excuse "we are too busy working/getting on with our lives to be protesting stupid libs" then why can't Muslims say "I am too busy with my life and family to go out and wave placards condemning terrorism"?
Oh yeah. And my favorite part is when they actually do protest, it's "not enough" or "taqqiya". Sounds like the position in which a certain Commander in Chief finds himself in regularly due to the conniving duplicity of liberals. Isn't this situation called the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" dichotomy?
"they need to be insulted"
Because telling them that they are goat humpers who worship a pedophile is surely going to get us in their good graces. Not "hey dude, don't go around killing 'infidels' or we will defend ourselves" but "Allah, May The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him" or "Mohammed, pigs be inseminating in him" or some other hateful BS that we would never tolerate if it's directed at any other religion (Not just Christianity and Judaism).
We get furious when they put Crucifixes in urine. But some a-hole throws a severed pig's head into a mosque and a lot of us cheer, dance, and high five. Oh yeah, no hypocrisy at all.
Seeing these disgusting displays is not going to win us any convert or favors. Why should they have to put up with sh!t against their beliefs and religion anymore than we have to? It's disgusting that we complain about liberal bigotry yet celebrate some of our own.
I remember the tagline 6 million plus guns didn't kill people today. Well the same can apply. Even if it is really 10% of all Muslims who are terrorists or supporters, I know that is and extraordinary number of enemies, we would still have to contend with the 90%. And those ninety didn't kill anyone. Hell, I'll even grant 60/40 or 50/50. That's still a lot of innocent people. And those are the ones that didn't celebrate, don't support terror, leave "infidels" alone, and just try to get on with their lives. Some of them are absolutely pro-American and anti-terror like the Iraqis, Afghanis, and Iranians.
When it comes to Islam and Muslims, some of us can slum it with the best of the liberal racists and bigots.
God bless our troops and President, who truly "get it" and God bless the silent majority who aren't so silent in certain parts of the midEast.
And may the Ali BAbas burn in hell for not only their acts of evil and depravity but for tainting an entire group of innocent people irreversibly to the point where people can encourage genocide and extermination without a second thought while others bob along in agreement.
"Because telling them that they are goat humpers who worship a pedophile is surely going to get us in their good graces."
You really ought to read what their press says about non-Muslims. In fact, visit www.memri.org and see their TV in translation.
They aren't silent:
http://pajamasmedia.com/2006/03/muslims_protest_against_terror.php
http://gopvixen.blogs.com/gop_vixen/2005/05/muslims_protest.html
Here's a news article of this from FR:
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1441856/posts
Because the Osama lovers publishes hateful lies and slander we should do the same?
You haven't learned enough then my friend, Muslim-American Marines participated in the invasion of Afghanistan willingly after 9/11. What was done by 19 despicable men will never be forgotten by anyone with a heart in them, but the war is not against Islam the president even said that himself, it is against fundamentalism that seeks to destroy everything we stand for.
Throughout Islams history, they have conquered by the sword. There's nothing that you could tell me that history hasn't.
To compare Islam and Nazism is to compare rabbits and lions, they cannot be compared because Islam would never tolerate what the Nazis did to innocent Russians, Slavs, Poles, Catholics, Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and Handicapped.
I know of the story of the Grand Mustafa of Jerusalem in the Shutzstaffel (SS), but that does not represent Islam by any stretch of the imagination. That's the logic terrorist sympathizers and hardcore liberals use to blanket criticize our troops for the deplorable actions of a few.
As for your second comment give me the passage that says that.
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