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Why Would Any God Fearing Conservative Have a Disdain for Islam?

Posted on 07/15/2006 10:48:32 AM PDT by Xing Daorong

I don't understand, some people say that Islam is responsible for terrorism today, rather than those who manipulate and perversely interpret Islam to further their murderous aims.

Islam is so similiar to Christianity that there isn't even a point to it, every quote showing "Judeao-Christian hatred" can be logically explained by anyone who has read the Quran.

We have groups like Muslims for Bush (now Muslims for America) a primarily Republican group of American muslims supporting the War on Terror.


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To: Xing Daorong

"Perhaps you do not know that like us Muslims pray to Jesus and believe he is a prophet, they have a different story as to what happened to Jesus."

Muslims do not pray to Jesus. That would be apostasy. In fact, they believe that in the end times he will return and kill all the Christians (break all the crosses) and that he's a lesser prophet to Mad Mo.

"They do know God and that by being a good person they will get into heaven, hell in the Quran is described as a fiery pit where those condemned drink from a salty well."

Allah is not Jehovah and this "good person" stuff is not required in the Koran. Unless you define "good person" differently than most.


51 posted on 07/15/2006 1:02:07 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: darkwing104

They aren't trying to kill us, and does the word 'terrorist' indicate maybe why many of them aren't actively going against them? They are violent thugs who will kill one and his whole family for doing something they believe contrary to their own perverse interpretation of Islam. Remember what happened to Anwar al-Sadat, former president of Egypt for signing a peace accord with Israel's prime minister Menechim Begin?


52 posted on 07/15/2006 1:02:07 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: calex59

"Christians condemn other Christians constantly if they murder or condone violence against others."

By holding massive protests?

Or by voicing hatred and disgust anonymously on message boards?

We take it at face value that millions in America don't suport terrorism despite never hearing their opinions on such matters or witnessing large scale protests.

Is silence or noise really a good indicator of politics/beliefs? There is a reason we have the term 'silent majority'. If silence is complicit approval and political activism demonstrates the true direction of a nation state or group, then Americans hate the war on Iraq (because of all the liberals protesting) and many Americans support the libs because there are no frequent, large scale counter demonstrations by the majority of the American people. If we can give the excuse "we are too busy working/getting on with our lives to be protesting stupid libs" then why can't Muslims say "I am too busy with my life and family to go out and wave placards condemning terrorism"?

Oh yeah. And my favorite part is when they actually do protest, it's "not enough" or "taqqiya". Sounds like the position in which a certain Commander in Chief finds himself in regularly due to the conniving duplicity of liberals. Isn't this situation called the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" dichotomy?

"they need to be insulted"

Because telling them that they are goat humpers who worship a pedophile is surely going to get us in their good graces. Not "hey dude, don't go around killing 'infidels' or we will defend ourselves" but "Allah, May The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him" or "Mohammed, pigs be inseminating in him" or some other hateful BS that we would never tolerate if it's directed at any other religion (Not just Christianity and Judaism).

We get furious when they put Crucifixes in urine. But some a-hole throws a severed pig's head into a mosque and a lot of us cheer, dance, and high five. Oh yeah, no hypocrisy at all.

Seeing these disgusting displays is not going to win us any convert or favors. Why should they have to put up with sh!t against their beliefs and religion anymore than we have to? It's disgusting that we complain about liberal bigotry yet celebrate some of our own.

I remember the tagline 6 million plus guns didn't kill people today. Well the same can apply. Even if it is really 10% of all Muslims who are terrorists or supporters, I know that is and extraordinary number of enemies, we would still have to contend with the 90%. And those ninety didn't kill anyone. Hell, I'll even grant 60/40 or 50/50. That's still a lot of innocent people. And those are the ones that didn't celebrate, don't support terror, leave "infidels" alone, and just try to get on with their lives. Some of them are absolutely pro-American and anti-terror like the Iraqis, Afghanis, and Iranians.

When it comes to Islam and Muslims, some of us can slum it with the best of the liberal racists and bigots.

God bless our troops and President, who truly "get it" and God bless the silent majority who aren't so silent in certain parts of the midEast.

And may the Ali BAbas burn in hell for not only their acts of evil and depravity but for tainting an entire group of innocent people irreversibly to the point where people can encourage genocide and extermination without a second thought while others bob along in agreement.


53 posted on 07/15/2006 1:02:47 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Killborn

"Because telling them that they are goat humpers who worship a pedophile is surely going to get us in their good graces."

You really ought to read what their press says about non-Muslims. In fact, visit www.memri.org and see their TV in translation.


54 posted on 07/15/2006 1:05:21 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: oyez

They aren't silent:

http://pajamasmedia.com/2006/03/muslims_protest_against_terror.php
http://gopvixen.blogs.com/gop_vixen/2005/05/muslims_protest.html

Here's a news article of this from FR:
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1441856/posts


55 posted on 07/15/2006 1:05:21 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Peisistratus

Because the Osama lovers publishes hateful lies and slander we should do the same?


56 posted on 07/15/2006 1:07:05 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: freedomson

You haven't learned enough then my friend, Muslim-American Marines participated in the invasion of Afghanistan willingly after 9/11. What was done by 19 despicable men will never be forgotten by anyone with a heart in them, but the war is not against Islam the president even said that himself, it is against fundamentalism that seeks to destroy everything we stand for.


57 posted on 07/15/2006 1:07:49 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Xing Daorong

Throughout Islams history, they have conquered by the sword. There's nothing that you could tell me that history hasn't.


58 posted on 07/15/2006 1:09:23 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Killborn
"Because the Osama lovers publishes hateful lies and slander we should do the same?" Those "Osama lovers" include the government of Egypt and many of our other "staunch allies". Those "Osama lovers" are just reading the Koran. It's all in their and the various Hadiths and "works" like the Reliance of the Traveler.

Of import is the response Christians and Jews have to religous insults. We may send strongly worded letters or hold peaceful protests, but we do not KILL and THREATEN TO MURDER people over it. That's the difference between civilization and barbarism. Muslims are allways offended and always aggrieved over something.
59 posted on 07/15/2006 1:10:27 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: SampleMan

To compare Islam and Nazism is to compare rabbits and lions, they cannot be compared because Islam would never tolerate what the Nazis did to innocent Russians, Slavs, Poles, Catholics, Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and Handicapped.

I know of the story of the Grand Mustafa of Jerusalem in the Shutzstaffel (SS), but that does not represent Islam by any stretch of the imagination. That's the logic terrorist sympathizers and hardcore liberals use to blanket criticize our troops for the deplorable actions of a few.

As for your second comment give me the passage that says that.


60 posted on 07/15/2006 1:11:18 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Xing Daorong

"war is not against Islam the president even said that himself, it is against fundamentalism that seeks to destroy everything we stand for."

As Islam is fundamentally violent, this war is against everyone who takes Islam as a religion seriously. Nominal Muslims obviously don't. Sgt Akbar certainly did.


61 posted on 07/15/2006 1:12:16 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Xing Daorong
Give me the passages you are talking about and I will be glad to explain.

Spin you mean?

62 posted on 07/15/2006 1:12:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Xing Daorong
Reread post #15 and study your History...Not the public school version either...

Antodotes does not represent the silent majority....


63 posted on 07/15/2006 1:12:43 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Xing Daorong

"To compare Islam and Nazism is to compare rabbits and lions, they cannot be compared because Islam would never tolerate what the Nazis did to innocent Russians, Slavs, Poles, Catholics, Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and Handicapped."

Sure it would. Ask the Armenians. We just haven't seen much of it in the last 200 years because Islam has been militarily weak.


64 posted on 07/15/2006 1:13:30 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Peisistratus

Terrorists based on 'religion' will always use one quote or another taken out of context to claim the moral high ground. Islam gives no justification for sawing the heads off of innocents or blowing yourself up in a resteraunt, and if it does I would like someone to post a damn quote to prove it.

The spread of Islam was done most by Abu Bakr and Umar, not Muhammed.


65 posted on 07/15/2006 1:13:35 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: DJ MacWoW

"Spin you mean?"

I do believe the good poster is a taqqiya artist.


66 posted on 07/15/2006 1:14:05 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Killborn

A very intelligent and to the point post Killborn, bravo. :)


67 posted on 07/15/2006 1:15:07 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Xing Daorong

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666064/posts


68 posted on 07/15/2006 1:15:35 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Xing Daorong

"Islam gives no justification for sawing the heads off of innocents or blowing yourself up in a resteraunt, and if it does I would like someone to post a damn quote to prove it."

This first statement is a lie and the rest is answerd by Sura 9.

"The spread of Islam was done most by Abu Bakr and Umar, not Muhammed."

Mohammad either launched or led himself at least 55 campaigns of conquest. He personally ordered the mass execution of prisoners and the rape of their wives. He was the lowest form of scum. He was no holy man, but a bandit who invented a religion for the purpose of conquest and theivery.


69 posted on 07/15/2006 1:17:22 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: martin_fierro

Zot my ass, I am as conservative as any of you, I support Republican candidates and am a devout Roman Catholic, I don't believe it is right to villify one faith because of the hideous actions of terrorists who claim to be on their side.


70 posted on 07/15/2006 1:18:02 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Xing Daorong
Islam is so similiar to Christianity that there isn't even a point to it

HUH? If you were anywhere NEAR similarity to Christianity you wouldn't deny Jesus' death on the Cross, that He was the Son of God, or deny His Divinity. No.. Islam is NOTHING like Christianity.

71 posted on 07/15/2006 1:19:05 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Xing Daorong

I don't know if anyone mentioned their "prophet" - who married Aisha when she was 6 years old. Consummated it at 9 years old. How he took joy in the deaths of those who mocked him. He was a sick and vile man. I see no evidence that he had anything but cruelty in his heart.


72 posted on 07/15/2006 1:19:07 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I'm sick of the media leaks & lies. God Bless America.)
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To: ncountylee

Who threatens to kill your family? Terrorists or your average Muslim on the street?

If Muslims really want you and this country dead then explain this:

www.muslimsforamerica.us


73 posted on 07/15/2006 1:19:16 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Xing Daorong

"And when the sacred months are passed, kill those who join other gods with God wherever ye shall find them; and seize them, besiege them, and lay wait for them with every kind of ambush: but if they shall convert, and observe prayer, and pay the obligatory alms, then let them go their way, for God is gracious, merciful." Sura 9:5

""Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the Last Day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled. The Jews say, "Ezra is a son of God"; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is a son of God." Such the sayings in their mouths! They resemble the saying of the infidels of old! God do battle with them! How are they misguided? They take their teachers, and their monks, and the Messiah, son of Mary, for lords besides God, though bidden to worship one God only. There is no God but He! Far from His glory be what they associate with Him! Fain would they put out God's light with their mouths: but God only desireth to perfect His light, albeit the infidels abhor it. He it is who hath sent His Apostle with the guidance and a religion of the truth, that He may make it victorious over every other religion, albeit they who assign partners to God be averse from it." - Sura 9:30

If you are really a Catholic, you are very ignorant about this "faith" you defend. Read the Koran. Read at least some of the Hadiths (which are worse). The calls of violence and conquest in the Old Testement are not comparable, as they were limited in scope. There were no "kill the infidel" commands that extend into the future.


74 posted on 07/15/2006 1:20:35 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Peisistratus

I guess he believes that these "infidels" are going to buy it. NOT. :)


75 posted on 07/15/2006 1:21:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Xing Daorong

"If Muslims really want you and this country dead then explain this:

www.muslimsforamerica.us"

PR. The German-American Bund presented a "nice" front too, once upon a time.


76 posted on 07/15/2006 1:21:16 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Very good post, I agree there is a problem in Islam of those who appease or look onward as terror occurs around them, but we must remember that like you said not all support or turn a deaf ear to terrorism.


77 posted on 07/15/2006 1:21:54 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: DJ MacWoW

"I guess he believes that these "infidels" are going to buy it. NOT. :)"

Indeed. We can read for ourselves.

Besides, "ye shall know them by their actions".


78 posted on 07/15/2006 1:22:24 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Peisistratus

Wrongo. I know MEMRI. They monitor MidEastern broadcasts and publications. Some of them are from terrorists. Most of them are from Arab/Iranian governments. The principle concern of these regimes is to stay in power by printing anti-US and Israel propaganda and using the guise of Islam to turn their populous' attention away from the corruption and despotism of the government. In fact, a lot of the rulers in these states aren't even religious. They use jihad as a veil to hide their ture intention, staying in power and enriching themselves at the cost of their people. They could be Confucius and they would still spout the same hate and terror because they need to stay in power. They aren't doing it because of the Koran. They are doing it because if they don't, the peiople will see what they really are and overthrow them.

This is no different than the race pimps "blame whitey" routine. It has nothing to do with belief or ideology. It's lust for power and greed, pure and simple.


79 posted on 07/15/2006 1:23:31 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And the Catholic Church hasn't? Read about what they did to the Cathars in Gaul, or what they did to everyone inside Jerusalem in the Crusades. I am a Catholic and a practicing one but up until the classical ages the Vatican has had a dark and unpleasent history. Islam is not the only faith spread through war, Catholocism and Protestantism has been as well.


80 posted on 07/15/2006 1:24:57 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Peisistratus

Addendum to #56: Because the Osama lovers and irreligious power hungry thugocrats publish hateful lies and slander...


81 posted on 07/15/2006 1:25:46 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Peisistratus

I showed you protests against terror in Bahrain, what do these people have to do to show you they don't support terrorism?


82 posted on 07/15/2006 1:26:11 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Killborn

"Some of them are from terrorists. "

Terrorist TV stations?

"In fact, a lot of the rulers in these states aren't even religious."

You really ought to read the "scriptures" of this faith you defend.

"They aren't doing it because of the Koran."

The Koran backs them up. It always has.

"It's lust for power and greed, pure and simple."

That's exactly why Mohammad founded Islam. To satisfy his lusts.


83 posted on 07/15/2006 1:28:01 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Killborn

*nods* Which is exactly why moderate Muslims need to pick up the pace.


84 posted on 07/15/2006 1:28:12 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Xing Daorong

"I showed you protests against terror in Bahrain, what do these people have to do to show you they don't support terrorism?"

Put a stop to it. Most of the "protests" -and there are very few- have been when Muslims were killed in terror bombings such as in Jordan.


85 posted on 07/15/2006 1:28:51 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Xing Daorong

Thank you. And thank you for posting this thread in the first place. We need this discussion and hopefully convince people that they are not all terrorists and treating Muslims as such would unnecessarily prolong the WOT and give valuable ammunition and support to the Islamofascists and liberals who are intent on undermining the WOT and turning more Muslims against us.


86 posted on 07/15/2006 1:29:25 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Xing Daorong

"Islam is not the only faith spread through war, Catholocism and Protestantism has been as well."

Islam was FOUNDED in war. That's a fundamental difference you intend we ignore.


87 posted on 07/15/2006 1:29:41 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Xing Daorong
Zot my ass, I am as conservative as any of you, I support Republican candidates and am a devout Roman Catholic, I don't believe it is right to villify one faith because of the hideous actions of terrorists who claim to be on their side.

I'm a devout Roman Catholic too and I vehemently disagree with you that there is such a close relation to Islam and Christianity. That's a bunch of ecumaniacal bull.

St. Alphonsus wrote this:

"But the holy monk (St. George of San Saba) having declared that Mahomet was a disciple of the devil, and that his followers were in a state of perdition, he also was condemned (to martyrdom) with his companions."

St. Francis' followers said this to the Muslims:

"We have come to preach faith in Jesus Christ to you, that you will renounce Mohammad, that wicked slave of the devil, and obtain everlasting life like us"

Villify them? I think they should be converted to the gospel of Jesus Christ, perhaps that would help them put down their arms and embrace peace once and for all.

88 posted on 07/15/2006 1:29:43 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

"But the holy monk (St. George of San Saba) having declared that Mahomet was a disciple of the devil, and that his followers were in a state of perdition, he also was condemned (to martyrdom) with his companions."

Christians martyrs die for their faith.

Muslim martyrs kill for theirs.


89 posted on 07/15/2006 1:31:28 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Xing Daorong
Who threatens to kill your family?

Only know about the terrorist threats. Have heard an urban legend about "moderate" Muslims who may not feel the same way.

Is Muslims for America a propaganda or a Trojan horse site?

90 posted on 07/15/2006 1:31:32 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

"Is Muslims for America a propaganda or a Trojan horse site?"

Probably about like CAIR, which is the Sinn Fein of Hamas.


91 posted on 07/15/2006 1:32:53 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Peisistratus
Christians martyrs die for their faith. Muslim martyrs kill for theirs.

Amen. Isn't that the truth? Strap a bomb on yourself, blow up innocent people, instant martyrdom and 72 doe eyed virgins awaits you for doing "Allah's" bidding.

That's not the God of Christianity. Nothing close to it!

92 posted on 07/15/2006 1:35:03 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Peisistratus

To this point I concede, I have not read these berses before only ones that were taken out of context in the stories of the Quarashis.


93 posted on 07/15/2006 1:45:55 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Xing Daorong

"To this point I concede, I have not read these berses before only ones that were taken out of context in the stories of the Quarashis."

The Banu Qurayzah were murdered in mass and their wives and daughters raped by order of Mohammad (he participated). How do you take any of that out of context in any way that makes Mohammad look "peaceful"?

That's not exactly the Sermon on the Mount.....


94 posted on 07/15/2006 1:49:16 PM PDT by Peisistratus (O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede...)
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To: Xing Daorong
"Gvie me a quote and I will be glad to."

Here is 164 Jihad Verses in the Koran. Knock yourself out. I personally like how the media and apologist ignored that the Muslim terrorist that killed hundreds of school children in Beslan used a Koran as a pressure detonator while yelling about the "abuse of the Koran" in Gitmo. I keep a copy of the pic of the terrorist boot on the Koran on my homepage as a link to the video of the kids in the gym. And then there was the use of Jesus' birthplace as a toilet by occupying Muslims in Bethlehem, but that doesn't really have verses in the Koran to back it up, so I guess that doesn't qualify. So, just give us some insight into the 164 verses of Jihad in relation to the Bible.
95 posted on 07/15/2006 1:50:54 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: Peisistratus

"Terrorist TV stations?"

Al Manar, Al Jazeera

"You really ought to read the "scriptures" of this faith you defend."

You think I don't know about hadiths, Taqqiya, Mohammed? I know about all that and more. I don't know what the hell is going on. Maybe it's everything you guys say. Maybe it's like the Dead Sea Scrolls and some power hungry Arabs hid the real Koran and published a fake one. Maybe these verses only apply tio a certain period and is no longer relevant. The only way we could know is to ask God or Mohammed himself but we sure as hell can't do that.

Appropos of nothing, we shouldn't go around insulting their beliefs or advocating genocide. (caps for emphasis and yes I am shouting) BECAUSE IF SOMEONE ELSE TREATS US THE WAY THAT SOME FREEPERS SAY WE SHOULD TREAT MUSLIMS, WE WOULD NOT GIVE A SH!T IF THOSE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT AND WE ARE WRONG, WE WOULD STILL FIGHT THEM TOOTH AND NAIL BECAUSE WE'LL BE D@MNED IF WE SUBMIT TO INSULTS HEAP UPON OUR RELIGION, ALLEGATIONS THAT WE F**K ANIMALS, ACCUSATIONS OF WORSHIPPING SATAN, DENIGRATION OF PROPHETS AND LEADERS WE HOLD DEAR, INDISCRIMINATE KILLING BY THOSE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO HELP US, AND THERMONUCLEAR GENOCIDE.

COnvert them, tell them to leave ISlam, make it moderate, leave them the hell alone, I don't care. But do it intelligently. We don't convert people by denigrating everything they stand for and threatening their very existence. And under no circumstance should we go around mistreating, deporting, harassing, or killing people just because of their faith. Last time I check, we don't pull Kristalnacht BS in America and people are actually innocent until proven guilty. IF Mahmoud doesn't f**ken blow any one up or harass women then we just leave him the hell alone. I'm sure the Muslims serving in our armed forces (some who have paid the ultimate sacrifice) would love to hear that they are being deported because of what they believe instead of what they do.

It never ceases to amaze me how willing we are to sell out our principles, freedom, and morality for the sake of security. Please tell me that once we intern/deport/gas all them "ragheads" that some lib wouldn't try to pull some similar BS on us.


96 posted on 07/15/2006 1:54:53 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: FJ290

Because one man, a holy one mind you, called Muhammed the devil doesn't make it true. I do reluctantly believe now that Islam does leave an open door for a violent interpretation, maybe you all are right about Islam. I hope that it isn't truly the way it appears here.


97 posted on 07/15/2006 1:55:23 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Alexander Rubin

Indeed, before the Islamofascists or the genocidal maniacs get a hold of them.


98 posted on 07/15/2006 1:55:59 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Killborn

Well said. I'll have to invite a Muslim I know to join, he can explain these suras the users have posted for sure.


99 posted on 07/15/2006 1:57:48 PM PDT by Xing Daorong ("All that is nessessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke)
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To: Peisistratus

You've identified the major stumbling block correctly, and it is a major concern.


100 posted on 07/15/2006 2:04:46 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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