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Suspect arrested in JonBenet death
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 8-16-06 | Charlie Brennan

Posted on 08/16/2006 2:11:38 PM PDT by M. Peach

A man arrested in Thailand is being held in connection with the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, law enforcement officials said today. Federal officials familiar with the case, who spoke with the Associated Press on condition of anonymity, said the man was being held in Bangkok on unrelated sex charges.

A source close to the case identified the suspect as one-time resident of Conyers, Ga., and said he was a school teacher.

The source said that authorities had been focusing on him for some time and that Patsy Ramsey had been made aware prior to her death on June 24 that his arrest was being pursued.

The girl was found beaten and strangled in the basement of the family’s home in Boulder, Colo., on Dec. 26, 1996.

Law enforcement officials from Boulder were flying to Bangkok to present Thai authorities with documents in the slaying of the 6-year-old beauty pageant contestant, officials in Washington said. They asked to remain anonymous pending an announcement in Colorado.

The girl’s parents, Patsy and John Ramsey, had been under an "umbrella of suspicion" in JonBenet’s death. The Ramseys said an intruder killed their daughter. A grand jury investigation in Boulder ended with no indictments, and no arrests had been made in the case.

Patsy Ramsey died in July.

In 2003, U.S. District Judge Julie Carnes in Atlanta concluded that the evidence she reviewed suggested an intruder killed JonBenet. That opinion came with the judge’s decision to dismiss a libel and slander lawsuit against the Ramseys by a freelance journalist, who the Ramseys had named as a suspect in their daughter’s murder. The Boulder district attorney at the time said she agreed with Carnes’ declaration.


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To: Spirited

Well, let's be honest. Fox doesn't always get the facts right on their breaking news stories.


But I'd bet he did it. They wouldn't have gone all the way to Thailand to get someone they weren't pretty sure was guilty.


51 posted on 08/16/2006 2:29:22 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Why does our government "of the people" do things the people don't want--overtax & overregulate us?)
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To: Fishtalk
If this is true and this scumbag did it, a whole lot of fools owe the Ramsey family big time. Imagine losing a daughter to a killer and then having to defend yourself against the false charges from a bunch of idiots.
I hope all those that were quick to look for a rope take a moment to reflect about their horrible actions. Shame on the bunch of you!
52 posted on 08/16/2006 2:29:43 PM PDT by bybybill (`IF TH E RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Thank God there's not a John Conyers High School in Carr Ga!


53 posted on 08/16/2006 2:29:45 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: B-Chan
Thailand? and other countries in that region is where the perverts go to buy young boys and girls.
54 posted on 08/16/2006 2:30:04 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
And let's not Richard Ricci, the Utah handyman who died in jail under arrest for the alledged abduction of Elisabeth Smart..

sw

55 posted on 08/16/2006 2:30:12 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: wallcrawlr; Millee

Who is JonBenet?


56 posted on 08/16/2006 2:30:28 PM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: nyconse
I hope John Ramsey sues the person who runs that miserable website you named.
I think it is Fishtalk's website. Should a person like that really be a contributor to Free Republic?
57 posted on 08/16/2006 2:30:53 PM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
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To: spectre

You are OH SO RIGHT...

Caution on who's suspect..

My mind jumped there right away as well..


58 posted on 08/16/2006 2:31:09 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: M. Peach
I am so glad Patsy was able to be told this monster was behind bars before she passed. To think of all the accusations she had to endure over the final years of her life. It would be wonderful to see her finally vindicated, and her daughters killer brought to justice.
59 posted on 08/16/2006 2:31:17 PM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: xkaydet65

Could be a gay principal. This way he didn't want anyone to know by going to Thailand. But your probably right.


60 posted on 08/16/2006 2:31:26 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: ladyinred

Me too. I always thought the parents were guilty.

I'm thrilled to death to see at least they had Patsy Ramsey briefed about the perp before she passed on.


61 posted on 08/16/2006 2:31:30 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: TexasGunLover

If the US Feds catch him, he'll be arrested. The Feds like to arrest them at US airports enroute [just before they board the plane] to one of these locations where child sex is taking place. But they'll arrest them on foreign soil if necessary. Patriot Act gives them this authority.


62 posted on 08/16/2006 2:33:43 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
There is a John Carr high school in conyers, Georgia.

There is? I live 20 minutes from there and I've never heard of a "John Carr High School".

Schools in Conyers, GA .

63 posted on 08/16/2006 2:33:45 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: M. Peach

I never for a moment thought the parents were involved. I did from the beginning think there was a "rush to judgment" campaign and the media was guilty as heck.


64 posted on 08/16/2006 2:34:03 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Now they are saying he has been writing emails to people about what he did to JonBennet in disgusting detail.
65 posted on 08/16/2006 2:34:14 PM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
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To: msnimje

Who's saying that?


66 posted on 08/16/2006 2:34:53 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: M. Peach

Sounds like Marten van den Berg, second grade teacher, supposedly living in Bangkok.


67 posted on 08/16/2006 2:34:55 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire.)
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To: pamlet
I am close to tears, with this...

I don't blame anyone for thinking anything. I just hope John Ramsey can forgive us all..

How do we make it up to them?? Dunno?

sw

68 posted on 08/16/2006 2:34:57 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: msnimje
Patsy Ramsey killed Jonbenet Ramsey by accident and yes I'm sticking to this. There are several things going on now and I'll throw them out there. If you all want to fall for this go right on ahead. And please call me vile names for a theory that 3/4 of the people involved in this case believe. After this I'll not discuss it any more but y'all can go on and throw the brickbats. I'm saving them though when absolutely nothing comes of this. I'll not be browbeat from what I believe.

First, the good Fox judge suggests that this is a ploy by John Carr to get out of that godforesaken Thailand prison to an American prison. This guy was supposedly sending nasty emails to the Ramseys which could be true. Doesn't mean he killed Jonbenet. There's been thousands of confessions to her murder over the years.

Call me names but I am absolutely certain I'm right.

69 posted on 08/16/2006 2:35:40 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: shield

Did that federal bill get signed yet authorizing the death penalty for anyone that causes the death of a child in a sex abuse crime?


70 posted on 08/16/2006 2:35:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: eleni121

Carol McKinley on Fox News.


71 posted on 08/16/2006 2:35:49 PM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
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To: Ditto
"To be brought up on sex chages in Thailand is some feat."

I don't know. Just go to the "Bars" but don't BUY anything. That might get you charged with something.
72 posted on 08/16/2006 2:36:02 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: nyconse
Those poor parents were convicted in the press. I live in Georgia. There whole lives were just destroyed. I hope the people involved in the original investigation are brought up on charges.

You want the investigators punished because the media convicted them? That serves no purpose at all.

73 posted on 08/16/2006 2:36:48 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Fishtalk
Fishtalk, for your own sake... I just don't think this is the right time for you to be going against the Boulder Police dept or the forum..and I am NOT calling you names.

sw

74 posted on 08/16/2006 2:37:51 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Integrityrocks

Thier actions right after the incident brought a lot of suspicion upon themselves. If your child disappeared, would you call the police or your lawyer first.

With how bad some police investigators are, I could see calling the police first and then my lawyer.


75 posted on 08/16/2006 2:38:25 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: Fishtalk
...I am absolutely certain I'm right.

What is your background in law enforcement, forensic science, or criminal investigation?

76 posted on 08/16/2006 2:38:55 PM PDT by jla
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To: Coop

The first investigators basically closed the case after all but convicting the parents in the press...they leaked all kinds of stuff. John Ramsey hired a private investigator. He may have come up with the lead that was given to the new investigators.


77 posted on 08/16/2006 2:39:19 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: M. Peach

With an arrest in Thailand I am very ready to assume the guy is a pedophile predator. Steve Singular wrote a book theorizing that child porn industry played a role in Jon Benet's death. Maybe he was right.


78 posted on 08/16/2006 2:39:28 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: xkaydet65

To quote someone I know, "Dealing with guys like him are why God gave me ten acres!"


79 posted on 08/16/2006 2:39:30 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Calpernia

I always suspected the parents (mostly Patsy in an accidental death/cover-up) had something to do with it, but there was always a doubt in my mind because I figured if it were an accident, Patsy would have finally broken down and fessed up after all that time. Haven't given it much thought for the past few years...now this.

The guy's only a suspect at present, remember, but if he has confessed, well...

Thailand is full of pedophiles. They even cater to the creepy pedo/tourists. This guy must have done something extra heinous to be caught and imprisoned.


80 posted on 08/16/2006 2:40:00 PM PDT by demnomo
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To: Fishtalk
I guess the 'godforsaken prison' in Thailand gives their prisoners access to email! Who knew?

/sarcasm

81 posted on 08/16/2006 2:40:17 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: msnimje
"...a reporter who has written stories about JonBenet, recently began to get e-mails from a man in Thailand, a man who seemed to know an awful lot about the case. Those e-mails lead to the arrest today in Thailand. A TV report says the suspect is a 41-year-old second-grade teacher who will be brought back to the United States this weekend...." WABC, August 16, 2006
82 posted on 08/16/2006 2:41:22 PM PDT by Sabatier
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To: Fishtalk

There is no way you can be certain of anything. You have an opinion which in my opinion is based upon gossip and lies.


83 posted on 08/16/2006 2:41:41 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Fishtalk
WHo the hell do you think YOU are? Why are you qualified to make definitive statements about this case? Where you there? Did you do it? Did you witness it? Did you conduct tests at the crime scene? Did you interview this guy?

You idiot amateur theorists crack me up. You are a sick nobody and nobody should believe anything you say or write.

In fact, you may very well have a lawsuit in your future.
84 posted on 08/16/2006 2:42:05 PM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
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To: spectre

I know what you mean... It is so easy for us to speculate here behind our computer screen.. then blame people .. and get worked up about it. Forgetting about those who are REALLY involved...

Then something like this happens.. that's out of our realm of thinking ...


85 posted on 08/16/2006 2:43:35 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: Fishtalk

'KUSA-TV of Denver, citing no sources, reported that the suspect has already confessed to certain elements of the crime.' Um...I think maybe you should consider another possibility?


86 posted on 08/16/2006 2:43:50 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Fishtalk

>>>>ploy by John Carr to get out of that godforesaken Thailand prison to an American prison

Three words:

Adam Walsh Act


87 posted on 08/16/2006 2:44:08 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Fishtalk
John Carr ?????!!! Is this the same major actor in Maurice Terry's Ultimate Evil?
brrr it's suddenly very cold in here
88 posted on 08/16/2006 2:45:11 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: M. Peach
John had pointed the finger at a former business partner of his. This teacher from Georgia hardly seems to be that person.

We'll see what the story is on this suspect.

89 posted on 08/16/2006 2:45:52 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: art_rocks

This was a wealthy family who no doubt had a family lawyer on retainer for years. Anyone who has worked with lawyers (like them) was savy enough to know that you NEVER put yourself in the presence of police officers without a lawyer, no matter how innocent you are. I'm a judge and I think the Ramsey's did exactly the right thing "because" they were innocent. That said; yes, there were things that would make one question them, but not enough to convict them they way they were in the press.

I didn't know that Patsy died. Does anyone know from what?


90 posted on 08/16/2006 2:45:57 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Integrityrocks
I didn't know that Patsy died. Does anyone know from what?

Ovarian cancer.

91 posted on 08/16/2006 2:47:07 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Integrityrocks

Breast cancer, I believe.


92 posted on 08/16/2006 2:47:15 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Integrityrocks

Cancer.


93 posted on 08/16/2006 2:48:04 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: nyconse
Someone breaks into a home, writes a ransom note, throws away the first draft, rewrites the ransome note, kills the child and hides it in the basement?

To what end was the ransom note?

Kidnappers do just that....they kidnap.

Nothing in this case ever pointed to anyone outside that home.

94 posted on 08/16/2006 2:50:50 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Huh. I was Googling the guy, and JC Carr school popped up a few times. I'm not sure why.


95 posted on 08/16/2006 2:52:12 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Why does our government "of the people" do things the people don't want--overtax & overregulate us?)
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To: art_rocks
Or he could have been a very professional and ethical principle who just happened to enjoy the beauty of the tropics, outstanding food, low cost of living, along with the incredibly friendly Thai people....who by the way don't make slanderous assumptions about people because of where they vacation.
96 posted on 08/16/2006 2:52:53 PM PDT by CondiArmy
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To: M. Peach

One of the disgusting pedophile / bizarre sex seeking farang ... he definitely fits a certain profile. Profiling is a good thing indeed.


97 posted on 08/16/2006 2:53:04 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Fishtalk

I agree completely with your assessment of the murder of the little girl.


98 posted on 08/16/2006 2:53:07 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Integrityrocks

Ovarian Cancer. She recovered once from it, I think in 1999.


99 posted on 08/16/2006 2:53:22 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: M. Peach

Peach, I had been leaning that way for a long long time. Sadly, statistics confirm that close relatives are most often involved. Couple that with the beauty contest angle, and it seemed to fit together.

If the Ramsey's were not involved, they have paid a heavy price in addition to the sorrow of losing a child. If that was the case, I am very sorry for them.

One of my problems with these beauty contests for little girls, is that they seem to fix a psudo adult sexuality to young grils. I have never understood what benefit could come from that.

Did some guy see her in that environment and become infatuated? Who knows.

I'd never enter a young child in those contests.


100 posted on 08/16/2006 2:53:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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