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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case SuspectFR Thread Roundup
Free Republic ^ | August 16-20, 2006 | FReepers

Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66

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To: Sacajaweau
How many of us make that type of A.

I do! and I often print....and I have no idea where I spent Christmas 1996!!!!!!!!

1,621 posted on 08/24/2006 10:12:23 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Sacajaweau
"The more I search, the more I think it's him. I questioned "Why leave the ransom note? over and over and after reading it enough times, figured it out.

Everyone was waiting for the 8 AM-10 AM call.He was long gone before they thoroughly searched the house and found the body. He had maybe a 10 hour lead on them. If he traveled by car, he'd be 600 miles away. If he traveled by plane, he'd be home."

I've been trying to come up with a motive that ties in with the ransom note, is plausible, and makes sense (at least from the killer's perspective).

Say it's Karr (or any intruder really). When did the kidnap/ransom idea occur to him? Was it prior to entry of the Ramsey's home or after?

If prior then why didn't he write the ransom note out beforehand?

Did he write the ransom note before or after JonBenet's death? Give your reasons.

Does anyone know what the draft note said?

Your idea is worth considering and would fit in with my tentative theory. I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on my questions.

1,622 posted on 08/24/2006 10:12:43 AM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX)
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To: Sacajaweau

Ditto on Lee.


1,623 posted on 08/24/2006 10:12:52 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: All

Fox reporting that Karr is on the move..


1,624 posted on 08/24/2006 10:15:22 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Miztiki

IMO opinion. The ransom note was a dare to LE to find him..."I'm smarter than you are!" "I've given you this BIG clue now see if you can find me!" "Grow a brain" was directed at authority as much as at John.


1,625 posted on 08/24/2006 10:17:53 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: mystery-ak

Cyril Wecht is on Fox saying that the palm print is HR's older daughters and the foot print was from Burke's shoe...he doesn't understand why it keeps being reported that those two pieces of evidence is unsolved.


1,626 posted on 08/24/2006 10:18:19 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: mystery-ak

HR=JR, John Ramsey


1,627 posted on 08/24/2006 10:19:30 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: hoosiermama; Sacajaweau

She asked "how many of us", which doesn't mean that none of us make our "a" that way. (Or are you just teasing us because YOU do?) She's saying in the yearbook, and in the ransom note of a crime to which he has basically confessed. I'm adding...don't forget SBTC in both. Lots of "coinkidinkies", I'd say.


1,628 posted on 08/24/2006 10:20:42 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: txrangerette

Sorry if I intimated that. I think we can agree to disagree. I think the reader can look and decide whether or not there is sufficient evidence to question the Ramseys version of events while keeping an open mind about an intruder. That is more or less my position now; that we don't know which was the case but that there is sufficient evience to question the Ramseys version of events. If they, in the final analysis, can all be explained, then I'm happy to hear that the parents of 6 year old child had nothing to do with her death.


1,629 posted on 08/24/2006 10:24:18 AM PDT by ableLight
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To: mystery-ak

That was my understanding, too.


1,630 posted on 08/24/2006 10:25:08 AM PDT by ableLight
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To: mystery-ak

The media strikes again, I'd say that's why.

As for Wecht and Baden and the others, they are ready to laugh this prosecutor to scorn and out of office and all the way back to the day she was born.

They are so heavily invested in it being the Ramseys, and also in it not being someone as kooky as Karr, that they are are about to "bust" wide open.

I still don't claim to know, but Karr's gotta be ruled in or out, and I don't believe the Ramseys did it.


1,631 posted on 08/24/2006 10:25:49 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Miztiki
If prior then why didn't he write the ransom note out beforehand?

Last night I suggested that he did write out a rough draft ransom note before he even entered the house. Kinda like a "cheat sheet", all he needed to do was find the paper and pen in the house, pull out his cheat sheet ransom note, and jot it down on the paper in the home with the felt tip marker found in the home, fold up his cheat sheet ransom note and put it back in his pocket.

This would explain why it was so long and it would not have taken him very long to copy down what he had already thought out and written down on his "cheat sheet" ransom note. To me the ransom note is a ruse and was left only to leave a cryptic message to John Ramsey. The ransom note was left so he could get personal with John Ramsey in his own cryptic way, killing his daughter was not enough for this perp.

I believe the first note he started in the house started with. Mr & Mrs. Ramsey, - maybe that is the way he originally had it on his cheat sheet, but he changed his mind and just went with Mr. Ramsey, which is odd and shows he wanted his cryptic message ransom note to only be addressed to John Ramsey.
1,632 posted on 08/24/2006 10:27:35 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: ableLight

After ten years of investigation, a grand jury that refused to indict plus the arrest of a globe trotting pedophile and you still feel there is sufficient evidence to question the parents version of events?


1,633 posted on 08/24/2006 10:30:46 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Miztiki
Motive: Revenge

John Ramsey might just be a symbol. The "Fat cat" reference gives me that idea.

How do you "humble" the rich and powerful to bow to your wishes? Go after their kid!!! It's the only way to reverse that POWER!! That's a Victory!!

Limbergh, Rockefeller....who else??

I do think Karr is a serial killer "at this point".

It was written before her death. There is no "love" of Jonbenet in that letter. It's a John Ramsey "hate letter".

The stationary was a pad, yes?? How many were there? Just one?? My guess is that Karr was in the house a couple of days before.

We think of great planning. But there is great "sporadic" planning, too. Especially, if you've done this before.

1,634 posted on 08/24/2006 10:34:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: stlnative

Notice that he was willing to comminicate with Mrs. Ramsey but not Mr. Ramsey. This tie might go way back. The name JOHN RAMSEY name is what tickles his brain...not Jonbenet...not Patricia. Why doesn't he refer to her as Mrs. Ramsey??


1,635 posted on 08/24/2006 10:39:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

I think you and I are basically on the same page on how all this went down.


1,636 posted on 08/24/2006 10:40:12 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: txrangerette

I was t-zing


1,637 posted on 08/24/2006 10:41:54 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Sacajaweau

"he" as in the unknown to us perp or he as john karr being the perp?


1,638 posted on 08/24/2006 10:42:23 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative; Sacajaweau

You mean...gasp...Patsy didn't write the ransom note to cover for Burke? Or herself? Or her husband?

Shazzam!!
(Only kidding you.)

For the life of me I can't see how Patsy could have ever written that schlock. It was full of veiled and not so veiled references to movie lines and to previous child killings. She asks for 118,000 dollars, the bonus amt her husband would get that year?? Yet smart people think that points to her. Incredible. Of course it points AWAY from her.

And, since she's sooooo religious, she signs it S.B.T.C. which has to mean, SAVED BY THE CROSS?? Incredible.

I could go on but I won't inflict more on you, stlnative,

Give me a break, everyone who says Patsy did this. Please, please, I can't stand it!!

BTW, Sacajaweau thinks the time frame he wrote for them to wait for his call meant something...it gave him the lead time to get away while everyone waited for the call. Wondering about that as a possibility...


1,639 posted on 08/24/2006 10:45:09 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

IMO both the killer and Karr have a problem with authority figures......Out manipulating them, out smarting them. Karr's controlling issues with his spouses and his being "too strict" in the classroom would also be part of this pattern.


1,640 posted on 08/24/2006 10:47:04 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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