Skip to comments.Sara Evans quits "Dancing with the Stars"
Posted on 10/13/2006 7:45:29 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
LOS ANGELES - Country singer Sara Evans on Thursday announced she was filing for divorce and quitting the Dancing With the Stars television competition.
Evans filed for divorce from Craig Schelske in Williamson County, Tenn., where she lives, according to a statement issued by Allen Brown, her representative at Sony BMG Music Entertainment.
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You can't fool me,
I KNOW you're a cake man.
I'll rock-paper-scissors you for her.
This moron wasn't satisfied by being married to her?!!
"A guy that freakin' stupid has to be secretly gay..."
They showed a video of him today....my first thought.
This is Clintons' boosom buddy. His wife and his children don't deserve this treatment.
He is a Macaca!
I'm sorry if I misunderstood y ou....you said that I was wrong, so I thought you were agreeing with everyone who was saying that viewing porn is akin to cheating on your wife.
No, I disagree with your statement "a little porn is fine for men."
I think it's poisonous, but mostly I disagree with a kind of blase "yeah it's fine" assessment.
I am honestly not being facetious when I ask this question, it is sincere...why would you want to hurt him if he looks at porn, NOW, a "habit" is a hard thing to define and of course anything done to excess is not a good thing, but why would it upset you so much?
So I was right in my initial statement that you won't look at porn. Why did you get angry with me....I'M VERY CONFUSED!!!!
There ya go. That's very well put.
Hildy, are you a religios person....Christian, Jew, Muslim, Mormon???
SEX is all he thinks about obviously.
LOL, if only there were truth in advertising!
Try using the AR button next time instead of pinging us to abuses.
I overstated my disagreement with you before, I didn't mean to stomp at you.
What I mean to say is that I consider porn to be a weak poison. Even a little is harmful, and a lot is dangerous or fatal (figuratively speaking).
I don't for a minute think it's "fine for men" or women for that matter. As to what I would do? I avoid it whenever I can, as much as I can. These days, "porn" of a kind comes directly over the broadcast airwaves, or in a mistyped URL. Further, I do not claim to be perfect.
But I do think it is morally wrong, and harmful to the viewer: a subtly pernicious poison.
In short, an assertion that "porn is fine for men" is wrong.
On one hand, you're right about teh pr0n. On the other hand, condemning people on the internet as moral failures using LARGE CAPITAL LETTERS is not the way to change their minds. In fact, it is pretty much guaranteed to make people unreceptive and angry.
Where did I say that, knuckledragger?
Read all my other posts.....it may give you a clue.
it hurts. That's the best way I can put it. It hurts a lot.
And no amount of "I really don't feel anything for her" doesn't do a damn thing to make it hurt less.
Why stay with someone who hurts you?
Well, that's the problem with us women, we think our feelings are more important than men's feelings and needs. It's irrational when you think about it. Of course you have a right to your feelings, and I hope you have a guy who realizes how fragile you are.
Internet tough guy, er, girl, eh?
I'm on your side...I think. Unless you're trolling your fellow FReepers for laughs.
I'm just pointing out that you draw more flies with honey than vinegar, and you'll change more minds with reason than wrath.
"...the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God."
I also said Porn brings a THIRD...OH OH I did caps....freeper police please have pity...person into the marriage. I said NOTHING about morals. That would have been too obvious!
I think you are wrong on this topic.
I don't think a woman is fragile if she's hurt by this.... I think she is 'effin' crazy if she puts up it....it's not about one person's feelings being more important than anothers, but simply knowing what is important to you.
And it's been quite the opposite...Its been in my life for a very long time.... and I won't do it anymore.
aw you're sweet, but bigamy is illegal in VA : )
What if my wife and I make our own "porn" videos, with us as the actors, for our own personal (only) consumption?
Oh, he will come out and say he is entering an addiction clinic because he is addicted to porn, or some such nonsense. Christmas and Thanksgiving will be especially nice for the children, Craig. I hope you are proud of yourself.
we caught my 14 yo son having visited a few porn sites, and i didn't make a HUGE to-do about it, i said curiousity was natural and that he should just not make a habit of it, because if i thought he was making a habit of it, he would be whisked to Father O'Brien's ofc so fast his head would spin. Our pastor, prior to his retirement, would rail about the pervasiveness and danger of pornography from the pulpit every chance he got. No way that my son wanted to be brought to talk to him about this subject! i continue to monitor.
I honestly don't know.
You think you know what's going on, but later, when it all blows up, you realize that it was part ignorance and part self delusion.
It's traumatic, because from then on, you don't trust your judgement buying gum, much less picking men.
I didn't read all of the responses in this thread, so I won't try to address all of the fidelity/porn issues. I will say a couple of things. First, Sara Evans does seem to be the perfect woman. She's beautiful in a really neat way. She has a beautiful voice. She seems to be a nice person. I don't deny any of the feelings of admiration that guys have for her. Secondly, even people who seem to be perfect do some strange things during a divorce. Her fan base is made largely of people with conservative values. If the public impression is that she just got tired of her husband and is dumping him because he seems worthless, she'll lose some of her following. If she's not really such a nice person, she might be trying to preserve her fan base by smearing her husband with the kinds of things that could draw sympathy from her fans. I really don't put much credibility in these kinds of reports.
i imagine it is very devastating. i am sad for you that it happened. i am very lucky in that i have not really been exposed to those sorts of men. my parents were happily married til they died and my dad lived on another 10 years after my mom died. i distinctly recall him joking [at age 72] about finding a new woman, and then he said, but no, i could never do that, what would my grandchildren think if i replaced their grandma? i loved him so much for thinking that way, even though he was probably lonely. my brother has been happily married for almost 25 years. the men in my family and my husband's family are all very honorable men. i am very lucky.
The best thing is that you know you're blessed!
I'm happy that folks like you exist (makes me believe in good stuff).
thanks! i just wish i knew how to make it that way for everyone! if everyone would just operate thinking that their deepest darkest dastardliest deed would be known to their kids, their priest, the person they respect most in the world, people would behave better! how is this disgusting jerk that sara is dumping, going to look his little KIDS in the face when they are big enough to know exactly what kind of crap he pulled? it is all about the demise of shame. what would devastate me more than just about anything is having my kids lose respect for me.
I often think that the wife/husband in a relationship would always have some inkling or suspicion about someone who is straying. But from what I have seen portrayed by her husband on his sites when he was running for election, and the organizations he started and was a active member. They were all Christian, Conservative, GOP type connections. Even his look in the photos, is very mid-west, clean cut conservative. To me it seems that it may be a "have your cake and eat it too" situation. There's that food connection again!
I think that there are some people who get too big for their britches with money, power, lifestyle, etc. They then think that since they "have it all", what else is there to do but add some additional excitement. It seems the porn thing can start small and escalate quickly, depending on a person's character or state of mind. There are also those narcissistic types, who think that they can fool everyone and keep the charade going.
I totally agree with you on NOT making a big deal about your son's natural curiousity. I have two sons..ages 10 and 8 so my time is coming soon. But in reality...my husband and I are on the same page with the boys...it is not too difficult to discuss their questions in a way that they learn to be respectful gentlemen. Humor is always a great teacher as well...my guys know that they were breast fed as babies..and recently we had a discussion about the how's and why's. When discussed in a way that is both funny and infomative...they get it...and are always comfortable with questions. Even going to art museums where there are beautiful nude paintings, statues, etc. They giggle, and it is just a natural curiousity.
I have just heard of a couple whom our family knows. They have been married for 6 years, no children. The husband from a respectable family and he is a state police officer. They have worked to have a nice home and started to plan for a family. When going for a loan of some type, there was irregular info. on their credit report. Turns out the husband has about $25,000+ in outstanding charges to call-girls, porn sites, etc. If this all comes out...he would probably lose his job and much more. He has already left his wife for a pole dancer...still a secret from his job. The wife is a nice educated, georgeous, athletic young woman, who was really blindsided by this whole incident. So there are some snakes out there who can charm and lie to everyone. This guys parents just found out about a week ago and are really devastated. He is only in his early 30's with everything going for him...just still unbelievable for his wife and everyone who has recently found out. She kept it quiet for about a month to see if there was a way to reconcile. He had already had the bimbo in a nice cozy condo he was renting for her.
Great analogy of the total risks this guy was taking. Certainly the big picture when presented; just shows how devastating this is to not just the immediate family but to the other loved ones as well. It is not like he is some 19 year-old frat boy with raging hormones, not much sense and nothing to lose. This is a married, middle aged man with young children.
Prayer for her and her children.. this must be so hard for them. I hope she gets tested for every STD out there..
I don't understand how anyone can do that to their wife :(
Can't believe there isn't a "Dancing With The Stars," thread. I thought I was the only one watching it!
"will Hannity leave his wife for Sara Evans?"
No. Hopefully, for me.
He has issued a statement. Has anyone seen it?
And if a man looks at another woman with more interest and joy....even if it's just looking....
Well...The energy that goes into just the look is a dagger through many a woman's heart.
Not logical, just fact.
Forgive me for saying so, but that's what I meant by paying for a woman's insecurity.
Heterosexual men really, really like to look at women. It makes us very, very happy to see women. But since many women are insecure, they misunderstand and see this as a threat. And they punish their men for it.
Women want all men in the world to want them, and only them. Because of their insecurities.
I didn't waste anytime on imagination.
Waste time on imagination? Do you mean that?
I think perhaps this is an important difference of opinion, relevant to this discussion. To me, fantasy is a free, fun form of entertainment. A very *good* thing, to be encouraged.
YMMV, I'm sure.
"that an inflatible doll is much quieter," LOL, good one, that's what I was thinking when I saw the doll comment.
Hildy! You never cease to amaze me. lol. I am glad you are a FRiend!!!!!
the bottom line to a healthy, happy and loving relationship is concern for your partner's feelings; that goes both ways. And before someone pipes up and says what about the husband's feelings as far as wanting to watch porn and look at other women? well then there's a cost benefit analysis, is it more important for you to get your rocks off, at the expense of your wife's feelings? Everything is a balancing act in a marriage. The balancing will vary from marriage to marriage, and how you let that balance tip, and how often, will determine the success or failiure of that marriage.
When you start trolling CL for sex, you know you are in trouble.
ABC has turned into the Estrogen Channel.
Every show is geared toward women.
i would be remiss if i did not add in here the wife's responsibility to her husband's feelings, should she continually reject his sexual advances because of fatigue and being overwhelmed by motherhood. No doubt about it, there are going to be times you are going to be tired and not in the mood when your husband wants to make love. but if you keep in mind your husband's feelings in your cost benefit analysis-- how tired am i, versus the benefit to our marriage of having my husband feeling loved and desired, and not frustrated and rejected and the constant second fiddle to our kids... you can strike the proper balance and keep the marriage on good terms til the kids are bigger and you actually FEEL like doing it more : ) It seems to me that marriage breakdowns result from one or both sides no longer being willing or able to be concerned about the other party's feelings and concerns. i see women putting their own feelings ahead of their spouse's in regards to sex, as equally as problematic as porn viewing by the husbands, when it comes to marriages coming apart.
He would be toast if he ever did that.
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