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Van Halen (among others) Make the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame
NY Daily News ^

Posted on 01/08/2007 10:21:03 AM PST by slowhand520

Van Halen, Grandmaster Flash, R.E.M., Ronettes and Patti Smith make Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

CLEVELAND — Van Halen made a "jump" into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on Monday along with Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, R.E.M., the Ronettes and Patti Smith. A panel of 600 industry experts selected the five artists to be inducted at the annual ceremony, to be held March 12 in New York.

Van Halen was the 1980s hard rock quartet led by guitarist Eddie Van Halen, outrageous lead vocalist David Lee Roth, and later rocker Sammy Hagar, that put out hits such as "Jump" and "Dreams."

R.E.M. was the quintessential indie rock band until breaking through to mass success in the early 1990s with songs like "Losing My Religion."

Grandmaster Flash led the most innovative act in early hip-hop, and the song "The Message" was like a letter from urban America.

Punk rock poet Patti Smith and Phil Spector favorites the Ronettes round out the 2007 class.

To be eligible, artists must have issued a first single or album at least 25 years before nomination.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: grandmasterflash; rockandroll; themessage; vanhagar; vanhalen
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To: ravensandricks
But I was just listening to "Reconstruction" last night and it's still wonderful.

That's good stuff right there. Their IRS stuff is their best by far.

51 posted on 01/08/2007 10:45:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Volunteer

>>As for REM, if you went to college in the South during the 80's, you no doubt share the same memories I do of listening to that music nonstop.<<

I did, and I do.


52 posted on 01/08/2007 10:45:59 AM PST by SerpentDove (It's not rocket surgery.)
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To: wbill
Yep, it's hard to find a bad song on their 'Pornografitti" album.

I thought "Three Sides..." was even better. Gary has the pipes, but it just wasn't a good fit for VH.

53 posted on 01/08/2007 10:46:51 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

No question. Each one of them has its own personality. I've always loved the murkiness of "Reconstruction," but the crispness of "Lifes Rich Pageant" is great, and the liquidity of Murmur is still completely unique.


54 posted on 01/08/2007 10:47:24 AM PST by ravensandricks
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To: slowhand520
Van Halen is touring with DLR? I hope Dave stays sober. When he was on, he was great but I've seen him when he was wasted which made it a horrible concert.

Last I'd heard, Sammy was back. At least it's not Gary Cherone, what was EVH thinking??????

55 posted on 01/08/2007 10:47:53 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: MplsSteve

Put it this way. My friend Gary Cherone will not be there.


56 posted on 01/08/2007 10:47:53 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Lx

I saw DLR's first solo tour with Steve Vai on guitar. That was a good show.


57 posted on 01/08/2007 10:48:50 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: joebuck

I like the Cowsills...Susan Cowsill has put out some excellent solo stuff and her work with the Continental Drifters was excellent as well.

Hell, I'd put the Cowsills in there....


58 posted on 01/08/2007 10:49:15 AM PST by Skip Ripley
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Gene Simmons of KISS saw them at the Starwood and got them into the studio for demo's. Ever heard those? They're amazing.


59 posted on 01/08/2007 10:49:35 AM PST by Pagey (The Clintons ARE the true definition of the word WRETCHED!)
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To: dfwgator
III sides...Oh yeah....I forgot about that one. :-)

I'll need to dig out my old cassette collection and see if I still have it. That one wasn't as memorable to me, but I remember that there was one semi-hit off of it.

Their original album "EXTREME", wasn't bad either, as I recall. Can't tell you what was on it, though.

60 posted on 01/08/2007 10:49:42 AM PST by wbill
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To: slowhand520

It's a MAJOR AWARD!!!!


61 posted on 01/08/2007 10:50:20 AM PST by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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To: Skip Ripley

I've alway been amazed that in a band like the Continental Drifters, with Vicki Peterson and Peter Holsapple, Susan Cowsill is the one who stands out. Her songs are wonderful. I've never gotten around to checking out her solo stuff, but probably should.


62 posted on 01/08/2007 10:51:05 AM PST by ravensandricks
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To: Skip Ripley

I remember one of my favorite all-time bands, The Smithereens (who should also be in the Hall, IMHO), reunited some of the Cowsills to do backing vocals on one of their songs.


63 posted on 01/08/2007 10:51:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: CaliGirl-R
I was there too! DLR was so drunk he sucked so bad. All the stuff I'd heard him say in a previous concert that sounded spontaneous he blurted out in the first two songs.
64 posted on 01/08/2007 10:51:43 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Wasn't it Gene Simmons?


65 posted on 01/08/2007 10:53:51 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: wbill
Not only did he sound terrible, but he forgot the words to one of the songs.

Age will do that to you.

66 posted on 01/08/2007 10:54:02 AM PST by Mr.Unique ("Are you gonna propose? Because if you're not, quit staring at me!")
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To: Mr.Unique
Getting old is no fun, but it's better than the alternative. LOL!

Speaking of forgetting lyrics, I got ruined on Fleetwood Mac when I went to see them on their reunion tour. We had kind of a bird's eye view of the stage and we could see that Stevie Nicks was singing off a teleprompter.

She helped to write the songs. She'd been singing them for 30 years. 12000 people in the audience can remember the words, but she can't. I haven't listened to Fleetwood Mac since.

67 posted on 01/08/2007 10:58:10 AM PST by wbill
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To: Lx
Thats when Diamond Dave is on. I saw them at Madison Square Garden in 82' and he was visibly drunk. They opened with "Light Up the Sky" and he blurts out "I forgot the f'ing words". Eddie made up for his buffoonery
68 posted on 01/08/2007 11:00:10 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: wbill

That's a very common practice nowadays. I hate going to see a show and catch the singer glancing down at the prompter. Jeez, if you forget the words, just ad lib something or flub it outright - it adds to the fun. I saw Jerry Garcia do this probably 50 times and it was always funny.


69 posted on 01/08/2007 11:01:01 AM PST by ravensandricks
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Randy California of the group, Spirit, showed EVH how to tap notes on the guitar. EVH took it to a new level.


70 posted on 01/08/2007 11:08:50 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: slowhand520

71 posted on 01/08/2007 11:12:54 AM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: Revolting cat!

OMG, where did you find that? When I was eight I asked my parents for a Beatles album, and this is what they got me - because this was as close as they could come to remembering the name. I straightened them out pretty fast! :)


72 posted on 01/08/2007 11:14:37 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: vetvetdoug

73 posted on 01/08/2007 11:15:03 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: slowhand520

No Jethro Tull? No point.


74 posted on 01/08/2007 11:15:24 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Tempus Fidget - The time between the final hymn and recessional.)
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To: slowhand520
R & R HOF - IMHO, it cost too much and had too little.

And why is there a Brittany Spears outfit there?

75 posted on 01/08/2007 11:16:13 AM PST by airborne (Duncan Hunter For President!)
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To: slowhand520

And still, no CHICAGO.


76 posted on 01/08/2007 11:16:46 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: ravensandricks
I used to sing a two hour set at a local bar. It gets very hard sometimes to remember lyrics to songs. I call them brain farts. I have sung the last verse first, first last, or the same verse twice in a row. I even have sung verses from another song in the middle of a song. Very few folks noticed and if they did they just laughed or smiled. I never stopped to say I forgot the "f'ing lyrics!
77 posted on 01/08/2007 11:17:22 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: frogjerk

The handbook on marketing 4 young lads as rock stars was that album cover, sleeve and vinyl. Simply the best.

David Roth and William Shatner, a couple of old mensches we never saw coming.


78 posted on 01/08/2007 11:17:42 AM PST by kinghorse
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79 posted on 01/08/2007 11:17:59 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: ushr435

"Hall of Shame"!! Where are The Ventures!!!


80 posted on 01/08/2007 11:18:58 AM PST by MrLee
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To: wbill
Buddy of mine went to see Roth and Hagar on their combined tour a couple of years ago. He said that Sammy hadn't lost a step (and actually, was better than with VH). Also said that Roth sucked. Not only did he sound terrible, but he forgot the words to one of the songs.

I've repeatedly heard and/or read two completely different accounts of that tour. One version is the above; the other is the opposite scenario. Not surprising, given the way the fans tend to polarize over that issue. I thought it was a ballsy thing for the two of them to do, knowing that on average, half of the audience would be there mostly to see the other guy. I respected them both a bit more for making the effort.

Eddie Van Halen, on the other hand, recently lended his guitar talents to the soundtrack of a porn flick. There are clips on YouTube.

81 posted on 01/08/2007 11:19:46 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: kinghorse

And who did Randy California play with when he was 17 while he was in NYC that gave him the name, Randy California?


82 posted on 01/08/2007 11:21:00 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Charles Martel

Roth and Hagar are both well received by this ear. I've always hated the effing debate.


83 posted on 01/08/2007 11:22:04 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Charles Martel
Eddie playing on a porn soundtrack? (best porno guitar) "BOOM-chicka-wocka-wocka-wow-ow"

How the mighty have fallen.

84 posted on 01/08/2007 11:24:00 AM PST by wbill
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To: BibChr

Terry Kath is probably the most underrated guitarist of all time. He was ahead of his time. And a killer voice to boot


85 posted on 01/08/2007 11:25:36 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: Charles Martel
Yep. I tend to believe my friend's account though, because 1) he's my friend. LOL! and b) He was firmly in the 'Roth' camp.

I rememeber that he was really disappointed. Or maybe disillusioned would be a better term. He had never seen Roth with Van Halen and was really looking forward to the live show.

86 posted on 01/08/2007 11:26:18 AM PST by wbill
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To: slowhand520

Are they really touring with DLR? That should be fun, even if they are geezers.


87 posted on 01/08/2007 11:27:33 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: LetsRok

I think it took Sammy a while to figure that out.


88 posted on 01/08/2007 11:27:39 AM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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To: ravensandricks

"I wonder if there'll ever be any move to put the Replacements in. That was a great, great band that never got the recognition they deserved."

Amen. Truly one of the greatest.


89 posted on 01/08/2007 11:28:49 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: RockinRight

Pretty much sums it up.


90 posted on 01/08/2007 11:29:02 AM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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To: Mr. Blonde
Weren't The Stooges on the ballot this year? If they were and didn't get in it is a shame.

Word in Ann Arbor from their manager was that they were in.. Very disappointing and confusing. By the way, they've re-united with Iggy and have been touring lately.

91 posted on 01/08/2007 11:29:11 AM PST by papineau (Who doesn't jump is a French!!)
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To: slowhand520
Terry Kath is probably the most underrated guitarist of all time. He was ahead of his time. And a killer voice to boot

Ab so lute ly.

Ever really listen to the Carnegie (album IV) version of "It Better End Soon"? Just pick out the guitar work. The word "virtuoso" was invented for that kind of performance. While he's singing, Kath builds this incredible tension in the background -- it's amazing.

92 posted on 01/08/2007 11:30:47 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: L98Fiero

I've never put on a tagline before, but now you've inspired me. Westerberg could probably give us 100.


93 posted on 01/08/2007 11:33:02 AM PST by ravensandricks (Jesus rides beside me. He never buys any smokes.)
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To: wbill
I also recall comments varying wildly based on which show was being discussed. Dave seemed to be rather inconsistent, which I figured had more to do with not stepping on stage for a while, than anything else. DLR's time in the spotlight was fairly brief, when you think about it.

The saddest thing of all was when he performed the bluegrass version of Jump, and looked so insanely happy just to be on stage. That's on YouTube as well... and it's just cringe-inducing. Though I'll admit, hearing a banjo player rip through an Eddie Van Halen solo was quite entertaining - in a completely surreal sort of way.

94 posted on 01/08/2007 11:37:17 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: BibChr
Oh yeah! I always liked his jazz runs on guitar. Like Byblos. That song is amazing. There are so many. South California Purples, Poem 58 and Liberation are my faves on the first album but again, there are sooooo many
95 posted on 01/08/2007 11:38:31 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: vetvetdoug

Big Spirit fan here ... their debut album is one of the most beautiful that ever came from any band.

So ... who did Randy C play with in NYC? The Underground?

I've read that Jimmy Page first heard his Stairway riff in Spirit's 'Taurus' and then made it his own.


96 posted on 01/08/2007 11:40:55 AM PST by jwfiv
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To: slowhand520

Van Halen? I guess I'm getting old. I saw their inaugural tour back in 1978 I think. They were the opening act for Journey, and they pretty much rocked the house.


97 posted on 01/08/2007 11:41:47 AM PST by 38special (I mean come'on.)
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To: ushr435

"When is Cheap Trick going to be inducted?"

I was kissed by Robin Zander when I was a young girl (16) and they were basically just a "garage band" doing tours of High Schools. *SIGH* It was my claim to fame in school until a classmate got a kiss from Elvis, that b*tch, LOL! (My "coolness quotient" rapidly fell after that...)

But I still love Cheap Trick! :)

(And I'm THRILLED to see Van Halen included.)


98 posted on 01/08/2007 11:44:43 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: ravensandricks

"I've never put on a tagline before, but now you've inspired me. Westerberg could probably give us 100."

Damned if you didn't choose one of the best. :)


99 posted on 01/08/2007 11:48:14 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: slowhand520; 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bamabaseballmom; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; Brian Allen; ...

ROCK AND ROLL PING

freemail myself or weegee to be added to or removed from the list


100 posted on 01/08/2007 11:49:00 AM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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