300 - FRANK MILLER'S STORY

[7thson]

I just watched a trailer of the new movie coming out - 300. It looks fairly decent. Anyone have anything to say about the movie? There are scenes where the talk about freedom and being free. I do not know the history of back then, but watching the trailer, I seemed to get a connection with what is going on in the world right now concerning the WOT and the storyline of the movie. They go against Persia - modern day Iran. 300 against one million - the United States against the world. Am I reading too much into this? Has anyone have any inside info concerning the movie and/or storyline?

[95 Bravo]

It was indeed. I saw it a few weeks ago.

[montag813]

The special effects look absurdly fake.

[montag813]

what is that tatoo?

[SunkenCiv]

I dunno, have not seen it. Historically and philosophically, the Spartans don't make a good role model. However, it's difficult not to be moved by the Greek inscription at the site of the last stand at Thermopylae.

[highball]

His revamping The Batman turned that character around and ever since, every writer and artist has worked from Miller's perspective.

True, but I'm not sure that was really a good thing for the character.

His second take on the Dark Knight was - IMO - not as good as the first.

That's putting it mildly - it was terrible.

[eeman]

A great fictional but historically accurate narrative about Thermopylae is Gates of Fire

It is the same kind of fictional narrative that "Killer Angels" was about the Battle of Gettysburg. One of the studios was planning to turn Gates of Fire into a movie. However, after "Alexander" and "Troy" tanked at the box office, the movie plans were scrapped

[Jack Black]

Well before comparing them with the Nazi's please factor in 2600 years of human history, will you. The ancient world was not the modern world, and applying 20th Century ideals to it is not going to result in understanding it better.

[visualops]

That's excellent. Are you of Greek extraction, or just a fan of the saying? (or both)

[pierrem15]

At the Keramikos museum in Athens, you can see one of the pottery shards used to ostracise Themistocles.

At the museum in Olympia, you can see a Persian helmet sent to the sanctuary by the Athenians from Marathon.

It's amazing.

[discostu]

I don't know if dud is quite the right word. Clearly they aren't expecting it to be a blockbuster, which given that it's a movie about a battle that 99% of the populace never heard of is a smart expectation. But they aren't releasing it in January, which is when they put out movies they were seriously thinking of releasing direct to video (and often should have).

[TC Rider]

It is a Spartan warrior, with the inscription 'molon labe', or 'come and take them'.

That was King Leonidas' response to the Persians when they implored the Spartans to lay down their arms.

[TC Rider]

That's excellent. Are you of Greek extraction, or just a fan of the saying? (or both)

Not Greek, just fond of the saying and it's meaning within the RKBA community.

[billbears]

Being officialy sanctioned, we could then jail the likes of Moore, Murtha, Sheehan, Clark, et al. We could shut down newpapers such as the LA and NY Times.

Wow we could?!? To hell with the First Amendment eh? Lock 'em up and toss the key. You do know that is illegal don't you? I've never read 300 but seeing the helmet and then the number any student of history should know what it's based on (which outside of Vic Hansen land is not in any way related to the WOST)

Knowing it's Miller I know it would be a loose basing at best but because it's Miller I will be going to see it.

[Comstock1]

Go tell the Spartans,
Passerby,
That here, obedient to their laws,
We lie.

Simonides, Epitaph for the Spartans who fell at Thermopylae
Greek poet (556 BC - 468 BC)

[Doomonyou]

Come and take them!

[Sherman Logan]

Agreed. However, the Spartans were exceptional in their brutality even for the time. Although they never had any intent of conquering the world, they implemented Nazi-type practices in their small corner of it about as completely as any group ever has.

Actually, most all peoples before the development of Christianity and Islam had a master race mentality. They only differed about which group was supposed to be the master. :)

[Turbo Pig]

Ok, let me say that I know a lot of historical war gamers, and history writers. You know the type; they are worried about the color of the French Dragoons epilettes, or what exactly was some Leftenant's intention at some lonely out post in the Sudan. Great guys, one and all, but they think too much. Every time a movie comes out like this I here about all the historical inaccuracies.

I have to remind them that it's Hollywood, not a history book. Frank Miller wrote a graphic novel, not a thesis on Thermopolye. The dialog and sensibilities are contemporary, the action is way over the top comic book style, and the history has been bent to fit the story.

If you can not over look these things, then you will be disappointed. If you can put that aside, and accept that you are watching movieized graphic novel you can be entertained.

The positive about it all, is that it very well could induce some public skrewl kids to go out and actually learn about one of the most important battles in western history.

[Turbo Pig]

The special effects look absurdly fake.

That's the point of them. The movie is supposed to look like a comic book. That's the appeal. I'm not sure how far it will take the film, though.

[Excellence]

My impression is that Islam always did, and still has, a master race mentality.

[WhiteGuy]

Has anyone have any inside info concerning the movie and/or storyline?

yes,



it's a bowling movie.