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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


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KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: kcw2007

She needs to put her energies into keeping the fact the inquest has not taken place so the powers in charge in the Bahamas do not sweep this under the carpet... at this point Virgie IS the only person with a vested interest in making certain it happens and for that I encourage her to make herself a nuisance....


10,301 posted on 05/03/2007 5:04:30 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: sodpoodle

Virgie is Cassandra

From Wikipedia

Cassandra “she who entangles men”) (also known as Alexandra) was a daughter of King Priam and Queen Hecuba of Troy whose beauty caused Apollo to grant her the gift of prophecy. However, when she did not return his love, Apollo placed a curse on her so that no one would ever believe her predictions.

She said Anna would end up dead.
She wanted Anna buried in the US. Dannielynn is not going to be living in the Bahamas. Now she will be separated from her brother and her mother.
We’ve got 4 people dead....J. Howard...then his son who was not elderly at all..then Anna’s son and then finally Anna. Anna ruined her life waiting for that money to materialize. She had a career and was established. Instead she became a joke all because she thought she was going to win the lottery.


10,302 posted on 05/03/2007 5:05:31 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: An American In Dairyland

You could be right about that... her comments to the Houston station were certainly not as well formed as they were to Greta.


10,303 posted on 05/03/2007 5:06:37 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: An American In Dairyland

“”””””If Virgie saw HKS two times in her life, how did Donna Hogan know him? And Virgie said she doesn’t even know Donna Hogan!
“”””You’re not supposed to notice discrepancies like that””.
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How is that so hard to figure?

Anna and Donna had the same father (Don Hogan) but different mothers.

Anna was born first. It’s possible that Virgie never met Don Hogan’s children born to other women after she divorced him.

How can Donna Hogan’s knowing HK$ be related to Virgie’s seeing him only twice.

I shop at Food Lion - so does my neighbor - I don’t see her in the store - but we may see the same cashier each time. DUH!


10,304 posted on 05/03/2007 5:07:25 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: TrishaSC

I think she lost her career when she became a laughing stock.... and it was drugs that allowed her to make herself a laughing stock. That program the ANS show was a mess... who, in their right mind, was going to hire her after that?


10,306 posted on 05/03/2007 5:08:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Dr. Scarpetta; Freedom'sWorthIt; stlnative; windchime

Bodyguard: Birkhead Abusive to Anna Nicole

Maurice “Big Moe” Brighthaupt, Anna Nicole Smith’s bodyguard, will detail how Larry Birkhead, the father of her daughter Danielynn, held her against her will and sent her threats by phone in his tell-all book, Baby Girl, due out in July by HarperCollins.

Birkhead is the reason Smith “escaped” to the Bahamas, according to Kenji Jasper, the author who is co-writing the book with Brighthaupt, who worked for Anna for several years and tried to revive her with CPR in her room at the Seminole Hard Rock Casino where she died.

Brighthaupt, pictured above with Smith and her companion Howard K. Stern, also will discuss “Anna’s abuse as a child, abuse her mother turned a blind eye to, leading to a feud that would last for the starlet’s entire life,” Jasper says in an email interview. He also will detail his efforts along with those of Stern and a doctor to “curb Anna’s prescription drug use after the death of her son, Daniel.” Brighthaupt also says that G. Ben Thompson, the South Carolina developer who tried to evict Anna Nicole from her home in the Bahamas, tried to bribe him with $500,000 to get into Anna’s house while she and Howard K. Stern were away.

Jasper, a founding cast member of BET’s Teen Summit and author of several novels including Dark, Dakota Grand, and Seeking Salamanca, says he was tapped to do the project by Manie Barron of the Menza-Barron Agency, which represents both him and Moe.

“Manie felt like we would be a good match as we were both from DC,” Jasper says. “As it turns out we grew up in the same neighborhood. Thus I had an interest in making this as descriptive and personal of a story as I could make it. Once Manie had paired us together and we had talked I wrote a proposal for the book, which Harper almost immediately became interested in.”

“I wanted the challenge of taking what could have been made into this really fluff or sensationalist kind of thing and try to make it classic,” he added. “I wanted to have a hand in writing the definitive book on Anna Nicole through the eyes of someone who knew her extremely well during her last days.”

Last month, a so-called tell-all book by Smith’s sister Donna Hogan, Train Wreck, hit the shelves to poor reviews by those who shared their opinions on Amazon.com. And in California, two of her booksignings scheduled for this week have been cancelled due to negative feedback from consumers.

Jasper says he expects Baby Girl to fare much better.

“I think the book will be have a terrific reception, particularly as Moe was a key figure in Anna’s life as opposed to Donna Hogan, who Anna told Moe she hadn’t had anything to do with in quite some time. I think readers really want to get Moe’s take on all that has happened in these past few months.”

I wish them both success, but I’m not one of those people who cares enough about anybody’s take on Anna Nicole Smith to buy the book. Do you?

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/swan/entries/2007/05/03/bodyguard_birkh.html


10,307 posted on 05/03/2007 5:09:42 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: TexKat

“””But I do not understand why she is demanding joint custody.”””

Nobody does - because she is not. She just wants to have visitation privileges.

Said so on the record with Greta


10,308 posted on 05/03/2007 5:10:47 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

“Why would Larry be any different? He is from the Hollyweird.”

I have friends there who have very successful and down to earth kids....in their late 30’s. Please don’t put everyone in a “wierd” category.


10,309 posted on 05/03/2007 5:11:32 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: TexKat
Wanna bet the so-called abuse from Larry was trying to keep her off drugs? He wouldn't be the first person to be a bad-guy trying to get someone clean. He was pretty clear about that on the witness stand... HKS, OTOH was an enabler.

Somehow, the fact Larry fought to get ANS off drugs comforts me when it comes to him raising his daughter, who is going to have a genetic pre-disposition to drugs.

10,310 posted on 05/03/2007 5:12:15 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: sodpoodle

I don’t believe her... I believe Larry.


10,311 posted on 05/03/2007 5:12:49 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Lizarde

You be my kinda peeple Liz honey.

Y’all come back Yheah?

hafta tek keer o bidness

Bbl


10,312 posted on 05/03/2007 5:13:11 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: toldyou

I grew up in So-Cal... not everyone there is depraved..


10,313 posted on 05/03/2007 5:13:24 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: sodpoodle
Virgie convinced me that Marshall’s money is tainted - like the Hope Diamond. She doesn’t want it, need it nor does she expect to ever see it.

What Virgie (or anyone) says and what she does can be two very different things. What would you expect her to say on national TV...that she really, really wants some of that money? Of course any sane person wouldn't say that. Watch what she does. It will tell you more than anything she says.

10,314 posted on 05/03/2007 5:14:24 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: toldyou

kids....in their late 30’s.

Anna’s age - now that’s weird


10,315 posted on 05/03/2007 5:14:46 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: TrishaSC
How is that a discrepancy?? Donna was Don’s kid not Virgie’s.

Who said Donna was Virgie's kid?

10,316 posted on 05/03/2007 5:16:24 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: Arizona Carolyn

US troops have given the producers of ANNA NICOLE SMITH’s final movie, ILLEGAL ALIENS, a boost - the armed forces have snapped up 6,000 copies of the straight-to-DVD sci-fi comedy

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/fascinating%20fact%203191_1029947


10,317 posted on 05/03/2007 5:17:09 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: An American In Dairyland

So how is it a discrepency? From your post it appears that you are saying that the only way Donna would know HKS is thru Virgie.


10,318 posted on 05/03/2007 5:17:54 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: TexKat

ROFLOL..... guess the troops need a good laugh...


10,319 posted on 05/03/2007 5:19:02 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: sodpoodle

My mother met my stepbrothers even though they weren’t her kids. I think it would be reasonable to say that many to most people in that situation do the same. I think Virgie protested way to much about not having met Donna Hogan and I didn’t find her credible on that point. YMMV.


10,320 posted on 05/03/2007 5:19:29 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: sodpoodle
Nobody does - because she is not. She just wants to have visitation privileges.

So what is the June 9th custody hearing about in the Bahamas?

10,321 posted on 05/03/2007 5:19:49 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“””She needs to put her energies into..........”””

She should do what she herself believes is right...not what you or Howard Stern or Larry Birkhead’s father think she needs to do...

Good grief!


10,322 posted on 05/03/2007 5:20:51 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: TexKat

“”””So what is the June 9th custody hearing about in the Bahamas?””””

Have no idea - there’s a gag order!


10,323 posted on 05/03/2007 5:21:57 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: TrishaSC

co-guardianship ..........

If she wins, that child is hers for six months, and Larry’s for six months. Only she doesn’t want the responsiblility.....that’s a lot of work. She just wants to help control Larry’s money.


10,324 posted on 05/03/2007 5:22:13 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: An American In Dairyland

Well I’m sure your stepfather wasn’t accused of raping your mother’s little sister. Maybe that would cause a wrinkle in future family reunions.


10,325 posted on 05/03/2007 5:23:15 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“This is Larry’s baby - the battle for whatever money may come should be over. I’m guessing it is not.”

Isn’t Virgie pitiful?


10,326 posted on 05/03/2007 5:24:06 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: An American In Dairyland

You see the light! :)


10,327 posted on 05/03/2007 5:25:13 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou

Where did you hear about the child being hers for 6 months? Guardianship is not about custody.


10,329 posted on 05/03/2007 5:27:36 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I have never heard or read anything that states that Vergie wants to ‘cut Larry out of control of Dannielynn’s trust’ Please provide proof for that lie. Also, you did not address the very poor wording you used in your statement. If poor Athina had read your post, she would think you were accusing her father of stealing from her!!! LOL!!

Yes, you are right about Thierry Roussel (his first name has an ‘i’ in it) fighting to raise her in a ‘normal’ family. Sadly, this is the ‘normal’ family he ‘created’ with his mistress while he was still married to her mother. After reading about her today, I feel very sorry for Athina, since she didn’t have a ‘decent’ mother or father.

Also, I am happy to just ‘agree to disagree with you’ from now on. The tone in some of your posts today has come across as very argumentative, and I do not wish to discuss this subject in that manner any longer. IMO, there is room here for everyone’s opinion.

Have a good evening!


10,330 posted on 05/03/2007 5:27:42 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Arizona Carolyn

The ‘clarification’ should have been in the poor wording of your original post, not in your mean-spirited replies to me.


10,331 posted on 05/03/2007 5:30:23 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: An American In Dairyland; sodpoodle
What is really interesting is according to Bon-Bon ANS never met Donna Hogan... but ANS knew Donna was writing a book..Said she did not know who Donna was when she signed her calendar and that was the only picture of ANS and Donna in the entire book.

IMHO it is almost impossible to believe any one person in the entire fiasco.

About Donna Hogan

snip of Bon Bon -- and I don't particularly believe this either coming from this source:

Anna knew when Donna was writing the book, and she said to me in May that she never met her half-sister. (She was never aware of who she was when she signed her calendar at a calendar signing event - the only picture of the two together in her book). She told me that someone she didn’t know at all was writing a book when she didn’t even know her.

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JANE: Regarding the Texas family, Hogan claims that the father she shared with Anna was a child molester. It has also been reported that Hogan’s sister Amy was homeless for a time, and that Anna’s half brother Donald Hart, Jr. spent six years in prison for kidnaping and terrorizing a paraplegic woman. This, along with Virgie Arthur’s own history (first child at 15, mother of three by 20, grandmother by 34, and five marriages), would seem to indicate a highly dysfunctional family pattern. Hogan claims that she does not fit that pattern. Do you believe the book she wrote is indicative of being out of, or in, that dysfunctional mold?

snip....

Anna told me about the horrible things her brother and stepfather had done to her. It started when she was pretty young and went on until she left the house. She also told me that Virgie knew about it all, and went into great detail about her relationship with her mother and what she did to her also. I don’t know much about Hogan except he left when Anna was two and Anna tried to reconcile with him during her Playboy era however it didn’t work out.

10,332 posted on 05/03/2007 5:30:28 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: sodpoodle

so are you saying now you don’t want the inquest to move forward but you do want Virgie to have shared custody of Dannielynn so SHE can file a wrongful death suit? You would prefer that to HKS going to prison?


10,333 posted on 05/03/2007 5:32:30 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: sodpoodle

“because both Virgie and I will be long gone before that matter is ever resolved.”

O’Quinn is looking out for his grandkids and great-grandkids. Besides, he just doesn’t want to lose! For some people it’s all about winning no matter how many people they hurt along the way.

Why did E. Pierce fight? He died at 67 years of age. He fought for many hundreds of millions that he and generations of his family could never ever use. Some people just don’t like to lose. It’s pitiful. $$$$$


10,334 posted on 05/03/2007 5:33:01 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou

Won’t that be special as she grows up?


10,335 posted on 05/03/2007 5:33:08 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: toldyou

Yep.. and I hope she is sanctioned for breaking the gag order yesterday.


10,336 posted on 05/03/2007 5:33:51 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Lizarde; sodpoodle

But, Liz — sod just slapped my hands for saying I wanted Virgie to push forward to make certain the inquest takes place in the bahamas...


10,337 posted on 05/03/2007 5:35:02 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: kcw2007

She said it last night on Greta — go back and read the transcript. she wants herself or someone from her family and another person from Larry’s family to control the money — she doesn’t find Larry (at 34) mature enough to control the trust.


10,338 posted on 05/03/2007 5:36:27 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: sodpoodle

“DUH!”

Whatever you say. You seem to be an authority on all matters here.


10,339 posted on 05/03/2007 5:37:03 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou

LOL!! That is laughable on so MANY levels! I’ve never sued anyone, but I guess I would be considered ‘sue happy’ as well, if I believed that some one murdered my child and got away with it! LOL!! Not just SUE HAPPY, I’d be freaking SUE CRAZY to get justice for my child...but that’s just me, maybe some people don’t mind if the person responsible walks free....different strokes for different folks, I guess! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


10,340 posted on 05/03/2007 5:37:33 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: kcw2007

I haven’t been mean-spirited in replying to you. I have stated my opinion just as you have stated your opinion.


10,341 posted on 05/03/2007 5:37:47 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: toldyou; All

O’Quinn doesn’t have any kids..at least that’s what he said on one of the talking head shows. I was surprised to hear that.
I’m not up on the Marshall case but I thought it was reported that to give Anna that amount of money would have led to the company being dissolved and that’s one of the reason why they were fighting it so. That could just be rumor though. If someone knows please post this info.


10,342 posted on 05/03/2007 5:38:03 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: TrishaSC

OQ doesn’t look all that healthy (to me)... and we all watched him pass out in court.


10,343 posted on 05/03/2007 5:39:29 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: toldyou

“”””You seem to be an authority on all matters here.”””

I know - it is a burden to be sure.


10,344 posted on 05/03/2007 5:40:02 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Jrabbit

This headlines for you from Foxnews.com

‘Goat Man’ Gets the Kid

More than a year after Charles Tombe ‘married’ Rose the goat, his ‘bride’ died, leaving a grieving ‘widower’ to care for his kid


10,345 posted on 05/03/2007 5:41:44 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I think he drinks or something. When he’s on some of those shows he just as shaky as Anna was.


10,346 posted on 05/03/2007 5:42:48 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“”””sod just slapped my hands for saying I wanted Virgie to push forward “””

No, you didn’t say you wanted .....you said “she needs to”

There is a difference - you have not wanted Virgie to do anything but give up, give in and give apologies for having lived a life of struggle that she managed to handle with guts and grace.


10,347 posted on 05/03/2007 5:43:11 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: toldyou

“”””Some people just don’t like to lose.”””

Excellent summary.

I imagine Virgie didn’t like losing her daughter and grandson...see what you mean.


10,348 posted on 05/03/2007 5:45:21 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Are you talking about the Greta interview? Where did she break the gag order?


10,349 posted on 05/03/2007 5:46:38 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: TrishaSC

I’ve wondered about that and being a diabetic that is a deadly combo for him.


10,350 posted on 05/03/2007 5:47:52 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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