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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: An American In Dairyland

“What Virgie (or anyone) says and what she does can be two very different things. What would you expect her to say on national TV...that she really, really wants some of that money? Of course any sane person wouldn’t say that. Watch what she does. It will tell you more than anything she says.”

You’re right. People here are taking her by her word, yet she’s making life miserable for Larry. It keeps him from devoting his time to Dannielynn and spending his money on Dannielynn. Instead, he’s losing weight, agonizing over lawyers’ bills, spending time with lawyers as long as Virgie keeps this up.....what..3 months now with 2 to go? Larry’s fight and bills should have been over months ago.


10,351 posted on 05/03/2007 5:48:28 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“”””you don’t want the inquest to move forward...”””

Oh no, I’m sorry if I was misleading - the inquest will go forward - if you haven’t already noticed, Virgie has lost every court hearing, every decision, she could not possibly have any influence on the inquest procedures.


10,352 posted on 05/03/2007 5:48:58 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Tx Angel

“That’s not true. CPS will try to place minor children in the custody of a family member prior to foster care.”

In my experience, it is true they will consider trying, particularly in long term placements, not necessarily short term ones for evaluations, if there are no objections and if the family is local. I do not think with ANS’s and KE’s objections and allegations of un-disproven abuse etc in VA’s home that a foster home clearance disproving all their allegations could have ever been completed on such an out of state grandparent.

Having said what my experience is, perhaps your experience, where you’ve worked, is different. I’m only speaking from what I’ve known and how I’ve known workers and courts to justify their actions and decisions.

From what I had known, I would not have expected VA to have had any chance of obtaining custody of Daniel unless he said, at age 13 or 14 that he wanted to leave his mother for his grandmother, and if, at that time VA made some pretty strong accusations of unfit parenting vis a vis drug use in his household and Daniel did not object to her accusations. Prior to age 13 or 14, I believe it would have gone as I described earlier.


10,353 posted on 05/03/2007 5:49:33 PM PDT by nynjanais
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To: toldyou

You are sprouting nonsense. Get a hold of yourself.


10,354 posted on 05/03/2007 5:50:08 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: sodpoodle

The only thing I’ve wanted her to give up is her demands for Dannielynn. I was supportive until we knew for certain Larry was the DNA Daddy... but he filed for that child very soon after she was born... there is no reason anyone should have stood in his way once the paternity was established. I have always been in favor of her fighting for the inquest... I think the inquest is where justice will eventually be done for Daniel.


10,355 posted on 05/03/2007 5:50:32 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I am glad to hear that.


10,356 posted on 05/03/2007 5:50:42 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: TrishaSC

By discussing the trial in Bahamas.


10,357 posted on 05/03/2007 5:51:17 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

That’s a very sad thing to say. What makes you think that Dannielynn wouldn’t want justice for her brother?? Even if she only met him once as a newborn. As an adult, she may feel that she DID have a vested interest in having the person responsible for his death punished. Just because you care about Larry and Dannielynn, as the rest of us do, you have no right to speak for them, and what their ‘interests’ are. Unless I’m mistaken, you are not a family member of Larry’s or Dannielynn’s.


10,358 posted on 05/03/2007 5:54:28 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: An American In Dairyland

“Virgie protested way to much about not having met Donna Hogan and I didn’t find her credible on that point. YMMV.”

I found that strange, too, but some people here thought it was perfectly fine. Virgie has had so many marriages, a child out of wedlock impregnated by her step-brother, etc., that I don’t think anything in her life is “normal” or “average.”

I guess I shouldn’t find it strange that a woman, Donna Hogan, a child of Virgie’s ex-husband, would write a book and know so much about Virgie, Anna and Howard, yet Virgie acted last night like she never even heard of her.


10,359 posted on 05/03/2007 5:57:02 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Arizona Carolyn

EXACTLY!! Someone from her family and SOMEONE FROM LARRY’s family. That does not give her CONTROL! That gives her a vote in how the money is handled. With Larry having a vote and a member of his family having a vote, and Vergie having a vote, that is 3 votes. Larry and the member of his family could overrule her by a vote of 2 to 1. Get it??


10,361 posted on 05/03/2007 6:01:18 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Lizarde

Seriously, don’t hurt yourself while your anesthesia is wearing off. Is there anyone around to check on you? You didn’t drive home did you?


10,362 posted on 05/03/2007 6:01:35 PM PDT by nynjanais
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To: sodpoodle
Have no idea - there’s a gag order!

Per your previous reply regarding Virgie not wanting joint custody:

Nobody does - because she is not. She just wants to have visitation privileges. Said so on the record with Greta

I just watch Virgie's interview with Greta. Virgie stated that the June 8th hearing is just a formality. She also states that she never wanted to raise her granddaughter. She would if she had to

However, later in the interview she does state that if Dannielynn does inherit any of J Howard Marshall's money someone on ANS's side of the family should be able to be overseers of the money before he (Larry) and or Dannielynn could purchase expensive items.

I don't know whether Virgie meant to include LB in that statement but she did.

So what would one call that?

Virgie Arthur Goes 'On the Record'

Videos

Watch Part 1 of the interview

Watch Part 2 of the interview

Watch Part 3 of the interview

10,363 posted on 05/03/2007 6:03:02 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: Arizona Carolyn

You have been mean-spirited to everyone here with the exception of one or two posters. You are not the BE ALL, END ALL AUTHORITY on everything to do with ANS. Sorry, but that is the TRUTH!


10,364 posted on 05/03/2007 6:03:36 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Arizona Carolyn

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269821,00.html

She doesn’t go into testimony. She does not discuss any of the court orders or the going on. She does say what she is trying to do and that seems to be something that all parties can discuss because we know that Birkhead is going for Custody. I just don’t see where she is breaking the gag order. If she had gone into detail then I could see but as this stands I have to disagree with your assessment. But who am I...I’m not a lawyer..heheh.


10,365 posted on 05/03/2007 6:04:06 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Jane Austen

“You are sprouting nonsense. Get a hold of yourself.”

Okay....I have a hold of myself. Please tell me what to do next.


10,366 posted on 05/03/2007 6:04:56 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou
I guess I shouldn’t find it strange that a woman, Donna Hogan, a child of Virgie’s ex-husband, would write a book and know so much about Virgie, Anna and Howard, yet Virgie acted last night like she never even heard of her.

So, and your point is?

;0)

10,368 posted on 05/03/2007 6:08:11 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: All
Anna wouldn't want us to fight like this.
10,369 posted on 05/03/2007 6:09:26 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: TexKat

I guess there are some of you here who find Virgie’s and Donna Hogan’s family normal, and I just can’t relate. Sorry.


10,371 posted on 05/03/2007 6:12:27 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou
Since you asked me for advice, I’d say loosen up, be more objective, less mean-spirited, and less obsessed with trashing VA. Give a break to a mother who lost a child.
10,372 posted on 05/03/2007 6:14:06 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: Lizarde

LOL...dare I? Nah..I’ll leave that up to someone else to post a picture. I don’t want to get banned.


10,373 posted on 05/03/2007 6:14:56 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Lizarde

I know this is off topic, but one final thing:

“I am drinking power smoothies “ Reassured.

-——Without a straw, right? — Usually they say no suction so as to not dislodge any clots.


10,374 posted on 05/03/2007 6:15:28 PM PDT by nynjanais
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To: Jane Austen

“Give a break to a mother who lost a child.”

You don’t know me.


10,376 posted on 05/03/2007 6:17:13 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou
I guess there are some of you here who find Virgie’s and Donna Hogan’s family normal, and I just can’t relate. Sorry.

I guess you did not see my smiley face at the end of my post. My post was a JOKE, a FUNNY.

Trust me, I do not see anything normal about any of the people involved in this saga. However there are things going on in this world that is much more horrible than this dysfunctional family from way back when.

10,377 posted on 05/03/2007 6:18:26 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: TexKat

Sorry....I should have caught that. :)


10,378 posted on 05/03/2007 6:22:01 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: TrishaSC
>dare I? Nah..I’ll leave that up to someone else

You can show a girl
mud wrestling, if she's wrestling
with her pickup truck!

10,379 posted on 05/03/2007 6:23:21 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

I knew it would be you!!!


10,380 posted on 05/03/2007 6:23:58 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: toldyou

“””I guess there are some of you here who find Virgie’s and Donna Hogan’s family normal, and I just can’t relate. Sorry.”””

Having lived in many places, different jobs, diverse work colleagues, children, friends of children, neighbors etc., I have learned that there is no such entity as a “normal” family. Unless you live in an isolated community comprised of a few relatives and neighbors, it seems rather unusual that you would not have either read about, seen documentaries or been aware of a family similar to the Hogans. There seems not to be rampant drug abuse and crime within this extended, multi-spousal family, just the average amount of hurt feelings, sibling separation and dark secrets. What is unusual is the celebrity of one member. Her death, her son’s death and what followed has affected thousands of strangers. That’s not normal.


10,381 posted on 05/03/2007 6:25:56 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Lizarde


10,383 posted on 05/03/2007 6:38:59 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: TexKat

Is that a Texas horned lizard on the lower right trying to bite Anna’s booty??


10,385 posted on 05/03/2007 6:45:26 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: toldyou

“””””a child out of wedlock impregnated by her step-brother, etc.,””””

That piece of ‘incest’ viciousness was dispelled long ago. Virgie married the father of her child. Their divorced parents paired off - I am not sure whose mother married whose father. Several FReepers described similar stories of friends and/or family members.


10,386 posted on 05/03/2007 6:49:58 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: An American In Dairyland

OH - you’re right - sorry - was not thinking clearly.


10,387 posted on 05/03/2007 6:57:21 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: sodpoodle

That’s nice.


10,388 posted on 05/03/2007 6:58:11 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Yes, agree on the Global Warming gospel - scary to the nth degree. (We are having measures enacted where I work that include mention of reducing global warming as an ultimate goal of these policies.....how do I fight that?

What made you say that re: Ans - what a mess she was - in that movie about how Anna met Larry? I didn't see it. And, yes, she certainly was a total mess.

10,389 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:14 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Rte66

Thanks for that link - bookmarked.


10,390 posted on 05/03/2007 7:02:44 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: TexKat; Arizona Carolyn

“”””””she does state that if Dannielynn does inherit any of J Howard Marshall’s money someone on ANS’s side of the family should be able to be overseers of the money...”””””

Arizona Carolyn thinks it’s Virgie’s responsibility to fight for Daniel’s inquest, but not Virgie’s right to ask for shared guardianship of DL’s trust?

Be reminded that Dannielynn’s claim to the Marshall estate is because of ANNA’s and Daniel’s deaths, not because LARRY is Dannielyn’s daddy.


10,391 posted on 05/03/2007 7:03:10 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Rte66

I would do that either.


10,392 posted on 05/03/2007 7:03:38 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Rte66

Ok - understand.


10,393 posted on 05/03/2007 7:04:37 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: toldyou

Donna Hogan probably knows less about ANS than we do!! She met ANS once at a book signing! That is the extent of her contact with ANS. Vergie NEVER met Donna Hogan or any of Hogan’s children that were born after she divorced Anna’s father. What exactly about that, is so hard for you to understand??


10,394 posted on 05/03/2007 7:05:22 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: toldyou

That’s all you got?

Such a waste of research!


10,396 posted on 05/03/2007 7:07:03 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Lizarde

Yes, agreed. Only Virgie still cares about justice for her child/grandchild. And, yes, she will be there for the inquest come hell or high water. God bless her for that. I have zero faith that the Bahamian court system will finally do its duty and carry through on the Daniel inquest as it should have been done MONTHS ago. But miracles do happen.


10,397 posted on 05/03/2007 7:07:25 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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wow...what next?!?!?!

Anna Nicole Smith Baby: Kidnap Worry, Larry Birkhead Hires Bodyguards

I guess better to be safe.

10,398 posted on 05/03/2007 7:07:33 PM PDT by shywolf
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To: kcw2007

“What exactly about that, is so hard for you to understand??”

Nothing. Sorry I got involved.


10,399 posted on 05/03/2007 7:07:44 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou

And so are you! Muuahhh!


10,400 posted on 05/03/2007 7:08:36 PM PDT by kcw2007
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