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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: Lizarde

“””””one of my ancestors had the first divorce in Va. that I know of in approximately 1652. So I guess that’s why I like Virgie!””””

That’s some good medication girl!

I guess that’s why we like you too.

Now go to your room missy;)


10,401 posted on 05/03/2007 7:09:39 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

AMEN, sodpoodle!


10,402 posted on 05/03/2007 7:09:58 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: sodpoodle

Right - agreed - goal was to keep ANS so drugged up after Daniel’s death (and to justify it because of her “depression”) that she had no chance whatsoever to be lucid enough to go for HELP re: her son’s death....or to let her accusing voice against Stern be heard outside the Horizons (even though it WAS HEARD at the funeral of Daniel). I think the fake marriage ceremony that he and KE “talked Anna into doing” - finally - (while she was drugged up) - was purely devised to claim HKS was Anna’s “husband” both for money purposes and for the purposes of escaping consideration by the police as chief suspect.


10,403 posted on 05/03/2007 7:11:07 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: shywolf

Several here had suggested Larry needed to hire a bodyguard for Dannielynn - I did - so am glad he has.


10,404 posted on 05/03/2007 7:21:24 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: sodpoodle
Be reminded that Dannielynn’s claim to the Marshall estate is because of ANNA’s and Daniel’s deaths, not because LARRY is Dannielyn’s daddy.

Uh duh, I would'nt of known, if you had'nt told me.

Not!

10,405 posted on 05/03/2007 7:21:47 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: Lizarde

They will take whatever they can get!


10,406 posted on 05/03/2007 7:23:21 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: TexKat

I think the point she’s trying to make is that because the money would come from the maternal line then someone in that family should be able to keep an eye on it.


10,407 posted on 05/03/2007 7:23:46 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Lizarde

Hey there - glad to read your report and that you survived your surgery today. Glad you can even post. Glad not in pain. Yes you can’t lift anything either (much) after dental surgery. I found that out. Sort of silly but that’s what they told me.


10,408 posted on 05/03/2007 7:24:19 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: TrishaSC; sodpoodle

OH, but any money that Dannielynn gets is “Larry’s money”, dont’cha know??? /sarc He is putting HIS own money in a trust for Dannielynn, so HE should be able to do with it as he pleases!! At least that’s how some here see it!! Makes no sense to me! Especially when one person made a point of saying that a certain heir’s lawyers’ stole money from her trust, but that person doesn’t think that Dannielynn should have a trust (with a safeguard of more than one trustee) in place because ‘Vergie has NO RIGHT to tell Larry how to spend HIS money’! LOL!! I thought it was Dannielynn’s money...Silly Me!


10,409 posted on 05/03/2007 7:35:08 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: kcw2007

Taking a opposite view of yours isn’t being mean-spirited...


10,410 posted on 05/03/2007 7:45:18 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: kcw2007

“”””Vergie has NO RIGHT to tell Larry how to spend HIS money’!LOL!! I thought it was Dannielynn’s money...Silly Me”””

Kcw, Does it sometimes feel like we are discussing an episode of “LOST” where we assign motives, psychoanalysis, who’s evil, who is less perfect, etc.,?

LOST is fantasy, but this drama involves real loss of lives, a real grandmother, a real father and assorted relatives & in-laws(or outlaws) who may or may not be grieving for the dead. Sobering to realize that when it’s over or not over - whichever comes first we’ll just carry on.

Mmmmmmm


10,411 posted on 05/03/2007 7:48:17 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

The movie last night on ET.... showing her meeting Larry at the Pre-Derby party... squeezing the cheeks of his butt and she had just met him... kept trying to grab and hang on him.


10,412 posted on 05/03/2007 7:49:41 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: sodpoodle
~LOL~ Sod... I thought you were in the camp that Danielynn will never collect a dine from Marshall..

Larry deposted 1.7 million in a trust fund for Danielynn.... let me ask you: You think Vergie should have say over that 1.7 million dollars say 15 - 20 years from now?

10,413 posted on 05/03/2007 7:51:39 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

You’re right, but it wasn’t your opinion that was mean-spirited, it was your tone, and it wasn’t just towards me, it was towards almost everyone, except a couple of posters who agreed with your opinion completely with expressing any opinion of their own.


10,414 posted on 05/03/2007 7:52:43 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: TrishaSC

Trish that was a huge stretch.... especially when the odds of the money ever materializing from that source is nill ...and it doesn’t sound (to me) like Virgie is drawing any distinction between money Larry puts into trust for her and money that “may” come from ANS lawsuit.


10,415 posted on 05/03/2007 7:55:19 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: kcw2007

When you discuss someone here you ping the person you are talking about... that is Freeper etiquite..


10,416 posted on 05/03/2007 7:56:07 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: kcw2007

You are absolutely as mean-spirited here as anyone poster and if I recall it was you who had at least one very mean post deleted....


10,417 posted on 05/03/2007 7:57:33 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Oh - okay - somebody described that video.....guess that was “Anna” acting out not “Vicki”....LOL. Yes, she was a mess. Wonder how Larry was attracted to her? Nevermind.


10,418 posted on 05/03/2007 7:58:37 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Arizona Carolyn

GUESS WHAT?? Dannielynn has half of her mother’s DNA!! Of course, I know you are sure that Larry can UNDO all of the DNA that came from Anna, but he cannot! And I don’t see what your point is? Do you think that putting Anna and all of her family down is favorable to Dannielynn in any way? I have to say that your OBSESSION with Larry and Dannielynn is out of control. Please turn off your computer, get outside and go for a walk!! I’m sure that you are a good person and you care about many people, but you really need to step away from this, because you ARE NOT related to Larry or Dannielynn, but the ‘passion’ in your posts really worries me.....for you, and ‘others’!


10,419 posted on 05/03/2007 8:03:45 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“”””~LOL~ Sod... I thought you were in the camp that Danielynn will never collect a dine from Marshall..”””

You are correct - I believe the Marshall family will prevail. However, because the lawsuit is still in play - DL should have maternal and paternal representatives.

“””””Larry deposted 1.7 million in a trust fund for Danielynn.... let me ask you: You think Vergie should have say over that 1.7 million dollars say 15 - 20 years from now?”””
NO - Larry would have been required to name himself and/or another party as trustee.


10,420 posted on 05/03/2007 8:04:31 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I know! I do that with EVERYONE ELSE!


10,421 posted on 05/03/2007 8:06:13 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: TexKat
Maurice “Big Moe” Brighthaupt, Anna Nicole Smith’s bodyguard, will detail how Larry Birkhead, the father of her daughter Danielynn, held her against her will and sent her threats by phone in his tell-all book, Baby Girl, due out in July by HarperCollins.

IMO Big Moe's story that Larry held Anna against her will and sent her threats is probably taken out of context....Anna was a HANDFUL, and she lashed out against people who really wanted to help her...

10,422 posted on 05/03/2007 8:09:48 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Arizona Carolyn

That’s right, you are the ‘victim’ here. I’m sorry I didn’t give you the appropriate amount of pity!

I guess I just got distracted by all of your posts ‘attacking’ everyone all day today!!! Please forgive me for not bring a present to your pity party!

BTW, I’m looking for an “I LUV LARRY 4-EVER” teenage site for you to join, you can thank me later!

Sweet Dreams, you little darling!!


10,423 posted on 05/03/2007 8:11:51 PM PDT by kcw2007 (You have all the pity in the world, and you deserve it too)
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To: All

I’m 300 posts behind in reading, but wanted to post this ...

Well, my local Fox news is having more of the Virgie interview tonight. They said it would be at 9:30PM, but I just happened to look up at the TV from my back-reading the thread (had storms all afternoon and much of the early evening, so was offline) and there was Virgie, talking in her kitchen at home in Magnolia, at 9:15 PM. Grrr - I told them not to fool me twice! They say there will be more of it at 9:30, as well.

Anyway, she looks much more relaxed and happy. When I turned up the sound, the reporter was asking her about holding Dannielynn the first time.

She said, like most everything else she’s had to do since Vickie died, it was in an attorney’s office. She went in to the conference room and HKS was there, Larry was there, and Larry’s attorney was there. Virgie’s husband was told to stay outside.

There was a big conference table and Dannielynn had her back to VA, who then picked her up and just started kissing and hugging her. She said Dannielynn reached up and grabbed her hair and kept playing with it. (I remember when VA told this the first time, she thought maybe DL associated the light-colored blondish hair with the memory of her mom.)

She said it was just 20 minutes, but of course, she wanted it to last forever.

She also wanted to make it clear that there was NEVER a “second meeting” to be with Dannielynn that she missed. She was NEVER told about another chance and knew nothing at all about it.

Then she was asked about when she might get to see DL in the future. She said Larry told her to call him and make an appointment, then he would talk with her first and decide if they could work it out.

The reporter asked why about that - and why, when LB had been thru the same bashings from Vickie that Virgie had been, why he wouldn’t take that into consideration as far as what Vickie might have said about Virgie. (Why it would be a problem for her to be around Dannielynn, IOW.)

Virgie said she didn’t know, she thought they would be fine (she and Larry). She just doesn’t know what the future holds or when she will get to see Dannielynn again.

The 2nd part is coming up now ...

Oh, it’s the “special” “Mother & Child” that was supposed to be on before!

Virgie ... different clips being shown.

Oh, cute family photos of all of them together, with Vickie with long dark brown hair. They’re narrating a bio of ANS and showing historical ANS clips, Billy, Playboy, Howard Marshall ... to Dannielynn and then to Daniel’s death ... then Anna’s death.

Court battles ... there to bury Anna ... paternity battles.

Now the interview with Fox Houston reporter Pattie Shieh.

At first, Virgie didn’t have much to say, the reporter says, but now she’s opening up. Virgie says maybe she should have been out there, talking in the spotlight, like Larry and Howard.

Now, she can’t talk, either, because court’s not over now. She’s grieving over Anna and Daniel.

VA: I’m a good person, a good mother and grandmother - ask all my other children and grandchildren.

Reporter: What about all the mean things Anna said about you?

VA: Our family knows Vickie and what she’s like (VA still talks about ANS in the present) - we know that was the drugs talking.

PS: What do you say to people who say this is all about money to you?

VA: It’s about being part of Dannielynn’s life. She has two families, not just her father’s. We’re hoping and praying that God will touch Larry’s heart and allow us into her life.

PS: What about the Marshall billions?

VA: Those billions have been there for 12 years; it’s not about that. (The 4 deaths, tainted money.)

The reporter keeps going on about the money, over and over. (Comm’l break)

PS: Talk about the time you got to spend with DL.

VA: It was by judge orders. (More about the setting as I posted earlier.) We had lots of face sugars. She wouldn’t let me hold her away to get a better look at her, just wanted to be up close.

VA: LB said to her, you upset Anna, we don’t want you around the baby.

VA: (missed this)

VA: I don’t know what the rumors are, to “set them straight.”

VA: Do I want to go back? No. But I have to, for my family.

VA: It would be easier to walk away, but I’m not a quitter. I’ll be there for my family, for the inquest. I will go back.

VA: My children are dead and were not old enough to die - hadn’t really lived yet. Daniel was only 20.

PS: Who should be held accountable?

VA: who? Can’t tell you - up to the courts to decide. I hope it will all be put up there.

VA: When you know they’re gone because of drugs, it’s hard. You can’t pick what your children will do.

VA: Vickie was funny, could’ve been a comic. Very loving. A good person. The drugs were the problem - the last 10 years on her life. Hard for her to make choices.

VA: Miss her giddiness and comedy. She was a good person.

....

Don Clark on now. News anchor asked him how he got involved. On Valentine’s Day he was in NYC and got a phone call from O’Q - you’ve got to help her. (He’s on O’Q’s staff.) This little lady has a granddaughter she hasn’t seen, her mother - the lady’s daughter - has died. Can you get down to FL right now to help her out?

Anch: You didn’t know it would be an international event, did you?

DC: Not like this.

Anch: Why hasn’t Virgie been seen in the media as much as HKS and LB have?

DC: We had no idea HKS was so prepared from a media standpoint as he was. Perhaps in hindsight we should’ve gotten VA out there more, but we didn’t know what we were up against.

Anch: What do you think of HK Stern?

DC: We don’t have enough time for me to tell you what kind of person I think HKS is. Two people dead on his watch.

Anch: And what about the father, Larry Birkhead?

DC: LB is a 19-yo in a 35-yo body - very immature. HKS is still leading him along.

Anch: How is this going to play out?

DC: Virgie knows the law, she’s going to abide by it in trying to establish a relationship with Dannielynn’s father.

DC: I had no idea about Anna Nicole’s status and how well known she was. She was quite a lady.

What’s ahead?

VA is going back for the inquest into Daniel’s death.

www.myfoxhouston.com has this interview available on it, click on “seen on tv”


10,424 posted on 05/03/2007 8:13:15 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: kcw2007; Arizona Carolyn
Could you two take this brawl to private message?

I respectfully thank you both in advance!

10,425 posted on 05/03/2007 8:14:37 PM PDT by Luvlyness (IC Inquest Updates)
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To: Rte66

Well, it would be nice if Virgie could just PUSH, PUSH, and PUSH to rush up that Inquest !!! HA! (Just kidding - don’t ask)


10,426 posted on 05/03/2007 8:16:02 PM PDT by kcw2007 (You have all the pity in the world, and you deserve it too)
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To: All

Links for Virgie local interview:

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/InsideFox/Detail?contentId=3106732&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=PSTY&pageId=5.7.1

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=3106747&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1013&maxImageLength=60


10,427 posted on 05/03/2007 8:20:20 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Thank you so much for posting the interviws and links!


10,428 posted on 05/03/2007 8:21:15 PM PDT by Luvlyness (IC Inquest Updates)
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To: Rte66

Awesome job!!! Thank you.


10,429 posted on 05/03/2007 8:25:03 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Rte66

I don’t know Larry but my personal opinion is that he will do right by Dannielynn. I wouldn’t say he’s a 19 year old in a 34 year old body. Larry displayed a lot of strength and courage early on while Stern and Anna were attacking him and ET was ambushing him. I respect the fact that he took parenting classes and he does have a big family. He also had a career before meeting Anna. He’s not a pushover as evidenced by him taking on ET and Ashley Judd. I am concerned about his “friendship” with Stern but I’ve always said I would wait until he’s over here away from Stern to see how he reacts. I think after custody is determined we’ll see how he really feels about Stern. It does concern me that Virgie is stating that Larry says “we” don’t want you around Dannielynn because of what Anna says. That I’m very curious about.


10,430 posted on 05/03/2007 8:31:14 PM PDT by TrishaSC (Still Team Birkhead but just a bit estranged)
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To: Luvlyness

Actually it isn’t a brawl at all. I was just pointing out that she was very argumentative in most of her posts through out the day. I did not engage her in an argument, and none of the other posters did either. No brawl at all...just a stray cat yowling...good night all!


10,431 posted on 05/03/2007 8:35:21 PM PDT by kcw2007 (You have all the pity in the world, and you deserve it too)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

O/T - Hey, FWI - do you watch CSI, the original Las Vegas one? Just curious if you saw the mini roombox episodes, if so. There were 4, I think, maybe just 3.

Looks like Grissom is going to be doing another roombox of his own - they ended tonight’s episode with him building the walls and it looks like next week’s will have a roombox in it, too, from the previews. Love it!

Just wondered if you had seen these. They’re having some kind of roombox contest, but I haven’t gone to the website to check it out, since it’s normal 1:12 scale, not my 1:6.


10,432 posted on 05/03/2007 8:40:09 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: TrishaSC

Yeah, I was surprised that Don was so strong in his statement about LB, but he knows more background than we do.

I’m anxious to back-read others’ thoughts on the ET “When Anna Met Larry” tapes from Howard’s vaults. It made me sick at my stomach to think of that leering voyeur taping every encounter of hers and keeping them on file. He is a pig.


10,433 posted on 05/03/2007 8:43:41 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Luvlyness

YW - I almost missed it all. Glad there’s a video so everyone can see it for real - especially the family photos.

I don’t know who all those kids are! Hope someone can get a screen cap on the puter.


10,434 posted on 05/03/2007 8:46:03 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Larry appears to be a fit parent, and I don't believe that a grandmother will be awarded any type of joint custody.

I've been reading that California has liberal grandparent laws, so it's somewhat possible Virgie could be more successful there if she's merely seeking 'visitation' rights.

10,435 posted on 05/03/2007 8:47:46 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Rte66

Yes..... the way they write his character and the stories for the Vegas CSI are fascinating.


10,436 posted on 05/03/2007 8:53:09 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Good reason to stay in KY


10,437 posted on 05/03/2007 8:53:40 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I agree Larry should stay in Kentucky. It seems like he will make a fine father, and he has a good support system with a loving family. It’s highly unlikely that a judge would take away his fatherly right to sole custody...


10,438 posted on 05/03/2007 8:57:29 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: TexKat

I really wish Moe had testified at the ‘body possession’ hearing so we could compare what he states in ‘his’ book.


10,439 posted on 05/03/2007 9:00:38 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I’m not sure why I feel this way, but I am *very* disappointed that they’ve finally put Gil and Sarah together romantically.

*I don’t approve, lol.* They both could do better and I’m shocked at his fraternization with an underling. Heck, I’m shocked he has any fraternization with anyone at all. I think he’s low-end autism spectrum (the character Grissom is, not the actor, lol).


10,440 posted on 05/03/2007 9:44:44 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: windchime

You mean Howard’s book!!


10,441 posted on 05/03/2007 9:46:34 PM PDT by kcw2007 (You have all the pity in the world, and you deserve it too)
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To: kcw2007

That’s why ‘his’ was in quotes. Moe is still a puppet.


10,442 posted on 05/03/2007 9:50:04 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT)
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To: windchime

Gotcha! Thanks..


10,443 posted on 05/03/2007 9:51:56 PM PDT by kcw2007 (You have all the pity in the world, and you deserve it too)
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To: All

Well, cheez-its - finished all the back-reading and no one said anything much about the ET tapes that obviously came from Howie.

The man is a sick, sick voyeur. Yeah, we knew that, but this goes far above and beyond the lines of decency. Did Anna decide to “target” Larry, like for some experiment or something, so HKS took camera in hand to document it from start to finish?

I realize someone else shot the footage at the Barnstable Brown party table, since HKS is sitting there in plain view (and of course, provided them with the “whispered” remarks), but did they hatch the plot that night, before the Derby Day party the next day?

I am just dumbfounded by these tapes and ANS squeezing LB’s butt. I have to *assume* that if these were given to ET, then there are *others* somewhere else of a more advanced nature that will be sold somewhere down the line. That is just sick.


10,444 posted on 05/03/2007 9:53:36 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

I was shocked when they turned that direction last year... low level austic, interesting thought. I think because the show has been on so long we know all the foibles of each character really well... same is happening on CSI New York. Miami not as much...


10,445 posted on 05/03/2007 10:11:04 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: Rte66

When I saw the butt squeeze I almost fell out of bed...


10,446 posted on 05/03/2007 10:12:32 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn ( If you want on or off the pet and human food and drug ping list let me know)
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To: sodpoodle
“””””Larry deposted 1.7 million in a trust fund for Danielynn.... let me ask you: You think Vergie should have say over that 1.7 million dollars say 15 - 20 years from now?”””

NO - Larry would have been required to name himself and/or another party as trustee.

yup. trusts must have trustees, and many families give their own parents trusteeships for their kids. Never know when one might get in an auto accident or disappear from a cruise, or something tragic like that.

10,447 posted on 05/03/2007 11:01:06 PM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: toldyou

There were a few things that bothered me about Virgie’s interview. One of them was about not knowing Donna Hogan at all. I recall Donna H. saying in an interview that she got some information for her book from Virgie, but that they were not at all close and didn’t know each other well. Perhaps Donna meant she got info from Virgie’s side of the family, and not Virgie herself. I don’t know. It seemed apparent Donna H. may not have cared much for Virgie, but I didn’t hear her say anything bad about her.


10,448 posted on 05/03/2007 11:44:14 PM PDT by tabor
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To: kcw2007
i thought it was DL's money, too :-)

It was DL that was posing for the magazine photoshoot, and it's DL's mother, who's the subject of any tell-alls LB might chose to sell, so shouldn't any money "he" makes from that, go to DL's trust?

has he put the money he's made from interviews about Daniel's death (that he told Seidlin about), into DL's trust too? Noone thinks he would want to personally profit from DL's dead 20yr old brother. :)

LB has a background in real estate agent and photography and short stories. So I have no doubt he can make a living and he should be able to go back to work very soon and raise DL on his own without even touching her trust.

10,449 posted on 05/03/2007 11:47:05 PM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Several here had suggested Larry needed to hire a bodyguard for Dannielynn - I did - so am glad he has

I'm sure glad she's back in the USA - fire-flys will be dancing in a month or two and I'm sure she will find them just amazing :-)

10,450 posted on 05/04/2007 12:01:36 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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