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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


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KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: windchime; TexKat; All

I think we probably have much of the testimony, statements, an video of Virgie re: money. Have you all done a comparison? I am still unable to find any discrepancies. If there is something I’ve missed, please let me know. All that I can find are questions posed to her about money recieved AFTER Daniel’s death, and the only time she received, or acknowledges receiving money is for pictures of ANS and Daniel BEFORE his death. Am I overlooking something or is there something else?


10,701 posted on 05/05/2007 11:47:31 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: tabor; Arizona Carolyn

tabor, the only information page on action taken by the California Medical Board that I have found, shows nothing on KE for April and May hasn’t been released yet. You can find it here:

http://www.medbd.ca.gov/

In the center column scroll down to ‘recent publications’ and it’s called “April 2007 HOT SHEET”...I will anxiously be awaiting May’s.


10,702 posted on 05/05/2007 11:53:23 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: tabor

So you are going with number two then?


10,703 posted on 05/05/2007 12:14:15 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Dante3

Oh, I know all the red flags, Dante, and normally, they’d point me in the very same direction the majority here is in. Something about my gut instinct, though, and how things have been reported in the media, plus my formed opinions way, way before Daniel died— I puzzle myself, sometimes,lol!
For one thing, I’ve always seen Howard as more or less unimportant. I’ve no doubt he was very important to Anna and she trusted him. I’m also sure they didn’t always get along, like any brother/sister, husband/wife, etc. I just can’t see him as a, say, John Gotti-type figure, a Rasputin, a Kennedy, who has that kind of power and influence and money to coerce and manipulate and control others. Howard Stern just isn’t that all important to anyone now, except his own family. I’ve never considered him to be a strong man.
As to the paternity issue, that was Anna’s thing up until the day she died. After that, it really didn’t take too long in the scheme of things to get that settled. Sure, Howard advised her and helped her. That was his role.
As to him saying nasty things about Virgie, recently-well, I didn’t think they were that nasty, compared to stuff she’s said about him, and being human, I’ll give them both leeway on that. Can you imagine trying to keep emotions in check for months, after going what both have been through? Don’t think I could.


10,704 posted on 05/05/2007 12:29:25 PM PDT by tabor
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To: Kimberly GG

Thanks so much, Kimberly! I wonder if any reporter could ask someone on that board what’s going on re: KE, and if they’d receive any answer.....


10,705 posted on 05/05/2007 12:31:39 PM PDT by tabor
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To: tabor

You’re welcome.


10,706 posted on 05/05/2007 12:40:44 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: uncitizen

You are busy! Am sure it will be beautiful when done...and you can rest!


10,707 posted on 05/05/2007 12:42:10 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Kimberly GG

Yes, I think it’s time for Paris and her mother to think things over. Sheesh.


10,708 posted on 05/05/2007 12:46:49 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: nynjanais
In the book "The Sociopath Next Door" the author makes the point that sociopaths are not like the rest of us, they have no conscience, and will cause havoc in the lives of those they encounter. They lie readily and can make good con artists. Even the most educated people can be taken in by them.

I agree that HKS fits the profile. Nobody has so far presented evidence of anything admirable about him. His actions have revealed only a sadistic side. He is not somebody with whom I would want to be in the same room.

10,709 posted on 05/05/2007 1:23:20 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: All
Any news on WHERE Uncle Howie is these days?!?!

I’m sure Larry knew all eyes would be on him to see who was on his arm for the Derby, wonder if that is why he took his sister?

10,710 posted on 05/05/2007 1:30:35 PM PDT by shywolf
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To: shywolf

“”””I’m sure Larry knew all eyes would be on him to see who was on his arm for the Derby, wonder if that is why he took his sister?”””

My guess is that he took his sister because DL is too young, he has no girlfriend and his Dad is ugly.


10,711 posted on 05/05/2007 1:39:39 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Thanks Doc for the pics. I've been busy doing household chores for a change after sleeping in this a.m..

Sad about the people and town of Greensburg, Kansas and surrounding areas.

Although there is no storms in the forecast for here today, it looks as if it might do something at anytime now

10,712 posted on 05/05/2007 1:57:53 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: TexKat

This is so sad.


10,713 posted on 05/05/2007 2:16:49 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Thanks for the great reference - “The Sociopath Next Door”

Read some excerpts and reviews. Scary that 1 out of 25 on this thread might be sociopaths. LOL

I’m leaving!!!!!!!


10,714 posted on 05/05/2007 2:42:52 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

LOL!


10,715 posted on 05/05/2007 2:52:48 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: sodpoodle

wow i better go look up the definition of sociopath...lol


10,716 posted on 05/05/2007 2:53:14 PM PDT by shywolf
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To: shywolf

Here’s one excerpt/discussion on The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout. There are many others.

http://ranprieur.com/readings/americanpsycho.html


10,717 posted on 05/05/2007 2:56:45 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

oh thanx...hope i’m in the 24 out of 25 that are not...lol


10,718 posted on 05/05/2007 2:57:49 PM PDT by shywolf
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To: Dante3

Hey Dante - excerpt from here;

http://www.ctlibraryassociation.org/reviews/Sociopath.html

She has witnessed the harm they can do while holding respectable positions, even in her own field. She recounts a story about a sociopath who worked as a psychiatrist. The sociopath faked her credentials when applying for a position at an institution. She seduced a senior official to guarantee that she would be hired. Once on staff, she abused a pathetically vulnerable patient in an effort to disgrace a competent and caring professional of whom she had become jealous.


10,719 posted on 05/05/2007 3:02:40 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

Brings to mind a certain therapist.


10,720 posted on 05/05/2007 3:04:47 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: dante

“”””she abused a pathetically vulnerable patient”””

Shades of KE - wonder what could the motive might have been? Maybe the Goat was just a Goat!!


10,721 posted on 05/05/2007 3:06:21 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Dante3

If you need a refresher on the harpy see this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259841,00.html

Many respected medical journals describe the safety of taking methadone during pregnancy. But the other drugs Eroshevich ordered surprised Kapoor, friends say, especially since he had never heard her name until that day in September.

“Stern told him Eroshevich was a longtime friend,” a source said. “He said that they hadn’t given Anna anything for pain after her C-section. And Eroshevich said she would be with Anna Nicole 24/7 and that she would administer the drugs herself.”

Kapoor responded that he would not send them, and that he was particularly concerned about the dose of Dalmane, which was 12 times the limit.

“Eroshevich told him Anna Nicole was really tolerant of Dalmane,” a source said.

But after the phone call and fax from Eroshevich, he heard from Smith only one or two more times. The last time was in November. Smith died three months later.


10,722 posted on 05/05/2007 3:15:14 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: dante

Another great site/blog.

http://psychwatch.blogspot.com/search/label/Khristine%20Eroshevich


10,723 posted on 05/05/2007 3:28:18 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

btt


10,724 posted on 05/05/2007 3:36:59 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: sodpoodle

“Scary that 1 out of 25 on this thread might be sociopaths. LOL

I’m leaving!!!!!!!”

Well, I think you’re safe.

That 1 in 25 refers to the odds of encountering a sociopath in a NORMAL cross-section of the population. I think the people on this thread have self-selected themselves, because of common interests, into a group NOT representative of the general population and therefore the odds would be much different.

Can you imagine HKS, or KE for that matter, caring enough about what anyone wrote to bother writing back? Only if it might confer some power, money or sensual pleasure (sex, drugs) would it be worth a sociopath’s time.

LOL, Unless participating in this thread could gratify one of those appetites, a sociopath wouldn’t be interested.


10,725 posted on 05/05/2007 3:43:51 PM PDT by nynjanais
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To: nynjanais

“”””Well, I think you’re safe.”””

That makes me feel better - I hope the other 24 feel safe too!

LOL


10,726 posted on 05/05/2007 3:47:10 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: All

I had not seen these photos before - May 2004 when Larry and Anna were dating....is that third person a ghost or a goat?????

http://www.starmagazine.com/celebrity_news_gossip/entertainment/1576


10,727 posted on 05/05/2007 4:12:24 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: TexKat

“Sad about the people and town of Greensburg, Kansas and surrounding areas.”

It sure is! But 24 hours later and FEMA is still no where to be found...they’re supposedly “on their way”....well I hope they get there soon or the you know what’s going to hit the you know what in D.C., again.


10,728 posted on 05/05/2007 4:15:53 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: All

CORRECTION

Article is dated May 4, 2006 - and she WAS 5 months pregnant. Not clear when the photos were taken.

Sheeesh!


10,729 posted on 05/05/2007 4:26:26 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

Hmm, they really were teasing about the “blonde date” on ET, then, weren’t they? Judy’s not blonde by any stretch of the imagination, altho there are some angles and lighting situations where her highlights make her hair look much lighter than it is.

On the other hand, he *was* with a pretty blonde girl with long caramel-colored hair today in a suite at the Derby. It was just a brief pass with the camera, kind of sweeping around the room after talking with Jenny McCarthy and Jerry O’Connell and maybe a dozen others.

They just panned to the right before interviewing the next person and there was Larry over kind of away from everyone, with this pretty girl, definitely his date, no one else anywhere around them. They didn’t talk to him or even point him out, which I thought they would later - it was an Access Hollywood person who was doing some of the voice-over - but they never did.

It was a great Derby! I would’ve won a little bit with the exacta I *woulda* bet, lol, because of Street Sense’s longer odds. Hard Spun came way up at the last, so I that was my 2nd in the box, but it was gonna be Curlin till I changed it. Curlin in a 1-3 exacta would’ve paid well, but I didn’t know if you can do that and I woulda had to be a psychic.

I was going to throw in a triboxa with “NoBizLikeShoBiz” (because of this thread!) and another with Dominican (cuz I always like nuns’ horses), but glad I wasn’t actually betting!

*Dat jockey whut won be tres coonie!* So happy for the TX trainer and the Cajun jockey - I wasn’t sure how I would feel about the running this year, because of Barbaro’s story. I kept away from wistfulness and missed all major mentions - but the documentary on Bobby comes on in 30 minutes. I’ll watch and cry then.

Would love to know who the Queen bet on! She’s staying in Lexington with our homeboy Will Farish, who was also with her and Phil in the box. I always wondered where you’d put the Queen of England when she’s visiting! Out news said WIll did go up toe the window with a bet, but it might have been his own. Don’t think he had a “horse in this race,” tho.

I loved the color of Liz’s outfit. Couldn’t quite figure out the reasoning behind the reddish-orange wrapping on the apple green hat that matched the duster, but it worked! Maybe the dress underneath had the coordinating colors in it. I kept thinking “watermelon” - lol, just needed a few black seeds on top.

Wonderful Rose Run, this one - missing you, Barbaro!


10,730 posted on 05/05/2007 4:34:50 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Kimberly GG

http://psychwatch.blogspot.com/search/label/Khristine%20Eroshevich

I did find this article that confirms investigation has begun (hope it’s not redundant):

article date: 4/5/7

...The psychiatrist who prescribed all 11 of the drugs found in Anna Nicole Smith’s hotel room after the tabloid star died is under investigation by the Medical Board of California, a spokeswoman for the state agency said on Thursday.

...”These investigations are not (typically) public record,” Cohen said. “We are making an exception in this case because we want to assure the public that we are doing our job.”

it goes on to say, Kapoor is also being microscoped.


10,731 posted on 05/05/2007 4:43:46 PM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: sodpoodle

Dr. Baden had strong words regarding the drugs HKS and KE provided to ANS and how dangerous it was - it was on Greta or Kimberly.


10,732 posted on 05/05/2007 4:48:21 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Rte66

“””Wonderful Rose Run, this one - missing you, Barbaro!””

So you love the ponies - eh?

Hope horse-racing picks up - it’s not as fashionable as it used to be...greyhounds either. The big three still hold on - but I read somewhere that all the other OTB and internet gambling opportunities are keeping people away from the tracks. Is there any harness racing?


10,733 posted on 05/05/2007 4:59:41 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

No, I just loved Barbaro and love the Derby. I like the Triple Crown races, but am mostly partial to quarter horses and smaller tracks, tho I can’t go anywhere any more.

Not a big bettor at all, just like to watch from the boxes. Don’t know about other kinds of races or gambling.


10,734 posted on 05/05/2007 5:11:03 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Dante3

I really respect Dr. Baden’s opinions - but IIRC he is testifying for the defense in Phil Spector’s trial.

You just never know !


10,735 posted on 05/05/2007 5:20:31 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Rte66

I don’t think we can keep this thread thriving until May 23rd!

Must be time for recipes! LOL


10,736 posted on 05/05/2007 5:22:32 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

Yuck. I thought it was Henry Lee.


10,737 posted on 05/05/2007 5:41:10 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Thanks for the picture of Larry and his sister it is a cute one. Larry looks very tired, think that he could a lot of TLC.
10,738 posted on 05/05/2007 5:45:07 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

You’re very welcome!


10,739 posted on 05/05/2007 5:51:11 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dante3

I believe they are both involved.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spector/

Gregory Diamond, former clerk to defense attorney Robert Shapiro, just took the stand and said he was at Phil Spector’s house and saw another lawyer then working with Shapiro pick up a small, white item and hand it to forensics expert Michael Baden, also a member of the defense team


10,740 posted on 05/05/2007 5:52:18 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Rte66; All

I expect everyone knows about Tuesday May 8th on NBC they are showing a Law & Order episode based on ANS.

Geraldo just interviewed the actress from Buffy the Vampire Slayer - which I never watched. Nor do I watch L&O.

I’m such an intellectual Ha Ha Ha Ha!


10,741 posted on 05/05/2007 5:58:35 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

Thanks for the pictures. Very sad, they both look so happy. Anna looks happier and more real than I have seen her for a long time.


10,742 posted on 05/05/2007 6:01:27 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Kimberly GG

“”””But 24 hours later and FEMA is still no where to be found...they’re supposedly “on their way”””

All the Dems in Congress expecting “Fast-food FEMA”!

I cannot get my head around what an enormous task it must be to organize transportation, supplies and personnel for those massive operations.


10,743 posted on 05/05/2007 6:04:56 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Irish Eyes

“””Thanks for the pictures”” YW wish I knew how to post them.

Did you see the one where Howard(?) is right in their space?


10,744 posted on 05/05/2007 6:07:05 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

What a terrible tragedy. I hope they get aid quickly.


10,745 posted on 05/05/2007 6:11:20 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Rte66

Hi Rte66

Always enjoy your posts. Admire the way that you are able to gather information. You sound like you know a little about the racetrack also.


10,746 posted on 05/05/2007 6:12:49 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Dante3

“””What a terrible tragedy. I hope they get aid quickly.””

It’s just awful, there’s nothing left - where would you start? I remember enduring a severe ice-storm and our neighborhood lost power for a week - we just went to a hotel. Where can these poor people stay temporarily? I would hope the FEMA trailers are on their way - but they have to be transported from somewhere.

OMG it’s almost 9:30
g’nite all
sod


10,747 posted on 05/05/2007 6:20:36 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle
Hopefully it’s not like another Katrina. Those poor people had to wait WAY too long for help!! If it wasn't for all the “AVERAGE” people helping each other, IMO I think it would of been alot worse!!

What a terrible thing to lose everything in less than a day!!

10,748 posted on 05/05/2007 6:38:56 PM PDT by shywolf
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To: sodpoodle

LOL! Maybe some variation thereof. Wobbly me still hasn’t made up her mind. Waiting for inquest. Waiting, waiting....


10,749 posted on 05/05/2007 6:44:26 PM PDT by tabor
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To: Dante3

Do you think Anna could have been sociopathic? Or have BDS, borderline personality disorder? Or both?


10,750 posted on 05/05/2007 6:47:10 PM PDT by tabor
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