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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


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To: Sacajaweau

“””What doesn’t make sense is why she was talking to Howard ..”

What doesn’t make sense is all these young people consumed with writing wills.

Oh, never mind, they are in Howard’s world of death..sorry.


8,151 posted on 04/25/2007 4:59:41 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Rte66

I think Anna straightened that out with the video of her and Howard where she said “he was having trouble with a girlfriend”. Another creepy video...Howard was sitting with his arm around her...rubbing her arm. At one point she turned to Howard and said “He was having trouble with a girlfriend, right? And then said again...”He was having trouble with a girlfriend.” Sure glad that wasn’t coerced.


8,152 posted on 04/25/2007 5:01:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Lizarde

What is with Dr. Kapoor prescribing Daniel’s medication?

Who knew that? Wouldn’t that be confidential?

Does anyone know the status quo on Kapoor? Is he on the inquest list? I’ll go up-thread and try to find it.


8,153 posted on 04/25/2007 5:02:27 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

Here’s the inquest list:

http://etonline.com/documents/witnesslist_et.pdf


8,154 posted on 04/25/2007 5:07:27 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle
I'm not sure that we really know who was prescribing for Daniel. I do know that KE mentioned what he was taking and that was way before we knew about the "drug death".

We know FOR CERTAIN that she met with Daniel before he left for the Bahamas. She said he said he had a stomach ache.

Wonder HOW MANY TIMES she met with him or saw him before he left?? She's just like Howard. Make one statement and leave all the rest out.

Wonder how many calls from Howard to KE and visa versa. Why call KE first?? Why not his sister...You know...The accountant turned "sex candy" supplier!!

YOU CALL YOUR OWN FIRST!!

8,155 posted on 04/25/2007 5:12:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau

This much is certain.

If my spouse and child had a psych/MD friend who was so totally incompetent and negligent that they both died as a result of her prescription malfeasance ...I would have her ass in jail before the first body was cold.

Why on God’s green earth Anna didn’t get rid of KE after Daniel’s death is beyond me.


8,156 posted on 04/25/2007 5:19:12 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Sacajaweau

“””We know FOR CERTAIN that she met with Daniel before he left for the Bahamas. She said he said he had a stomach ache.”””

Strange that KE is not on Daniel’s inquest list. Especially since she was so helpful to Perper.


8,157 posted on 04/25/2007 5:23:08 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: All
oh here is a scary thought i just read...i hope it isnt so...

According to the report from the veteran gossip, he is drowning in offers to open his own hotels, restaurants, nightclubs, and the like and insiders tell the Enquirer that they flatly predict he’ll make the islands his home forever!

“Larry Birkhead can become a very rich man by staying in the Bahamas,” revealed one business entrepreneur who’s courting Dannielynn’s new daddy. “He’s become a hero of sorts - a ‘Prince Charming.’ Tourists here to check out the Anna Nicole grave site and home go crazy when they see him. The LOVE Larry!”

no Larry...take Dannielynn and go..NO RUN FAR FAR AWAY!! Maybe Howie can give them the boat as a “gift” and this way Larry can take Dannielynn to visit her mom and brother’s graves.

8,158 posted on 04/25/2007 5:30:37 AM PDT by shywolf
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To: shywolf

“””””insiders tell the Enquirer that they flatly predict he’ll make the islands his home forever!””””

see part of my post #8053 below (going into the Tarot Card business):

OMG - Larry has morphed into Howard. Wait for the June hearing for Larry to say he really wants to stay with Howard at Horizons because he doesn’t want to leave Anna and Daniel alone.

8,053 posted on 04/24/2007 7:12:16 PM EDT by sodpoodle


8,159 posted on 04/25/2007 5:36:13 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

oh boy...cant you see it now...Dannielynn and her two dad’s...well her dad and wanna be dad.


8,160 posted on 04/25/2007 5:39:06 AM PDT by shywolf
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To: sodpoodle

“Why on God’s green earth Anna didn’t get rid of KE after Daniel’s death is beyond me.”

The same could be said for HKS, whom she reportedly ‘blamed’ for Daniel’s death, and maybe she tried. However, if it’s true that they drastically increased her meds at that time, she may not have been able to get rid of either of them. And IMO, they kept her lethally drugged up, hoping to get rid of her first. According to a previous article, she was prescribed, over the course of 5 weeks, 1800 pills and the CH.


8,161 posted on 04/25/2007 5:46:54 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Sacajaweau

Maybe you’ll remember....I read somewhere that there was a third person in the room when Daniel died. It was mentioned early on, but hasn’t been mentioned since. It is at all possible that the 3rd person was Dr. KE?


8,162 posted on 04/25/2007 5:49:08 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Lizarde
I have no organization system for snacks as I am allowed NO SNACKS. However, when I want a snack that I’m not allowed to have because of vanity, I walk (calorie burning) to the car, get in and drive (while doing stomach isometrics) to the closest retail snack provider and buy what I want - there are never any leftovers (remember the cheetos?) so I don’t need to organize them...problem solved.

Oh yes, i remember the cheetos;-) Those would on the chips and chip-like products shelf.

Geez, girl, by the way you exercize (see i can't even spell it) and don't eat snacks, except on rare occassions (can't spell that either) you must be a bean pole or a hottie. go girl!

8,163 posted on 04/25/2007 5:51:53 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: sodpoodle

Kookie Patrol is better for me since we have been on Atkins for a whole three days. LOL


8,164 posted on 04/25/2007 5:56:20 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: gopheraj; sodpoodle; Lizarde
Kookie Patrol! Yayyyyyyyyyyy! LOLL (okay,okay! I know it means kitchen patrol!) drat! LOL

I do declare we've hit rock bottom on this thread resorting to talk about cookies and spices and kitchen organization. But- maybe not. We could go lower. Wanna try? Have we gone into draperies yet? How bout those curly cue light bulbs?

And no! I won't do KP, sod! You can throw me in the brig, but i won't do it. No no no!

8,165 posted on 04/25/2007 5:57:12 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: shywolf

“oh boy...cant you see it now...Dannielynn and her two dad’s...well her dad and wanna be dad.”

I’ll admit, Larry could be described as a bit naieve and codependent, but I’ve got to give him a little more credit than to think he’d spend any time with HKS, unless it’s absolutely necessary. I don’t believe any of the stories of him ‘buddying’ up with HKS....I think right now he’s ‘playing the game’ until DL is legally his.

Every bit of the Media has slanted this story in favor of HKS.

They’ve blamed the ‘hold up’ on Virgie, and

They’ve made HKS look like the kind of nice guy even LB would want to spend time with.

And they’ve been successful doing so, as evident by the opinions on this thread.

Thank you Mr. Wood /sarc off.


8,166 posted on 04/25/2007 6:01:08 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: blueplum; Lizarde; sodpoodle; gopheraj
if one has time, to organize by cookie, I'd say, they have entirely too much time on their hands !! I toss em all in the cookie jar and call the job done. Let God sort 'em out... lolol

See here's the thing about cookie jars: they go on the counter. Some of us don't like stuff cluttering up our countertops. I don't even have a set of canisters on the counter. Altho, i've been considering getting some for purely aesthetic reasons, but can't find any i like. (oh no, we really have hit rock bottom now, sorry!)

8,167 posted on 04/25/2007 6:01:16 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: uncitizen

“”””And no! I won’t do KP, sod! You can throw me in the brig, but i won’t do it. No no no!”””

But you are so experienced;)


8,168 posted on 04/25/2007 6:02:18 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle
“””See simple.”””

Did you just call me simple?

It appears i have. Never were too good with the grammar/punctuation/sentence structure.

8,169 posted on 04/25/2007 6:03:39 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Kimberly GG

I understood that the third person was HK$. If you count the baby - it would have been a 4th person.


8,170 posted on 04/25/2007 6:07:01 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

I’m so “experienced” out of necessity. 4 kids (and their entourages), always looking to eat. Geesh the high expectations these kids have. 3 meals a day plus snacks. You think it would be enough that i brought them into this world, but NOOOOO. Then they expect me to feed them for the next 18 years! The only way to stay sane was to stay organized. Now it’s just a bad habit.


8,171 posted on 04/25/2007 6:08:24 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: gopheraj; sodpoodle
Kookie Patrol is better for me since we have been on Atkins for a whole three days. LOL

Yeah me too. Kookie Patrol will be just fine thank you.

8,172 posted on 04/25/2007 6:11:26 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: sodpoodle
Why on God’s green earth Anna didn’t get rid of KE after Daniel’s death is beyond me.

Because she didn't blame KE, she blamed Howard. Why on God's green earth she didn't get rid of Howard is the question...

8,173 posted on 04/25/2007 6:15:42 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Kimberly GG

“”””she may not have been able to get rid of either of them”””

Anna had a reputation of being “funny and friendly, but more importantly, smart and bossy”

Under the combined control of HK$ and KE she was totally ‘incoherent, baby-like and vulnerable’.

I missed emphasizing that HK$ obviously approved of, and endorsed KE’s medical malfeasance or he would have sued her following Anna’s death.

We have video evidence that he and KE were complicit in her demise.


8,174 posted on 04/25/2007 6:18:20 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: uncitizen

“””Because she didn’t blame KE, she blamed Howard”””

Through the morning fog - YOU NAILED IT UNC!!!!!!!


8,175 posted on 04/25/2007 6:21:09 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: uncitizen

How about cleaning closets?

ACCCCKKKKKK! I scared myself!!!!


8,176 posted on 04/25/2007 6:24:58 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: sodpoodle
Through the morning fog - YOU NAILED IT UNC!!!!!!!

Wellll, ya know, my comeback had to be something really deep.

8,177 posted on 04/25/2007 6:27:29 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: gopheraj
How about cleaning closets? ACCCCKKKKKK! I scared myself!!!!

ACCCKKKK! You scared me too!

8,178 posted on 04/25/2007 6:28:36 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Kimberly GG

Awesome! I am so glad you had a great time. I voted for him last year and even taught people on the AI board to text vote! lol Soul Patrol!!!!!!!


8,179 posted on 04/25/2007 6:28:38 AM PDT by Luvlyness (IC Inquest Updates)
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To: blueplum

Even better - the Dow just hit 13,000!!!

You won’t read about that either in the NYT or WaPo!


8,180 posted on 04/25/2007 6:34:03 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: All
http://www.masbakersfield.com/home/ViewPost/19483

I found this part interesting:

“I was in the Bahamas vacationing, but then when I got there, she (Smith) had decided she wanted to go get this boat,” said Serrano about Smith’s recent decision to purchase a yacht for easier traveling within the Bahamas. “We all went together to Florida to stay at the Hard Rock for a day or two, while Howard (K. Stern, Smith’s attorney) went out looking for the right boat she wanted.”

Serrano said that Smith planned to christen her yacht, “The Cracker” because that was Daniel’s nickname. While at the Hard Rock, fight promoter Don King invited Smith and her party to a heavyweight championship bout after learning the celebrity was there, Serrano said.

But here is the rest of the article:

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Saying goodbye to Anna Nicole Bakersfield hairstylist shocked, saddened over sudden death of her friend / client

It was in the wee hours of Jan. 10 — Sandy Serrano needed to catch an early morning flight back to the U.S. from the Bahamas, but she would not board her plane without first saying goodbye to her friend and client, Anna Nicole Smith.

She went to Smith’s bedroom — where little Dannielynn Hope, then 4 months old, was already awake. And like so many other times over their two-year relationship, Serrano — a native Bakersfield resident who since moved to Southern California, becoming the personal hairstylist to the model/actress — bid Smith farewell with a kiss and a hug, also saying goodbye to Dannielynn, until the next time.

But there would be no next time, for that day would be the last Serrano would ever see Smith alive.

Less than a month later, Feb. 8, the former Playboy Playmate was found unresponsive in her Florida hotel room and was pronounced dead at a hospital a short time later. Smith was 39.

Serrano was shocked, even disbelieving of the initial media reports about Smith’s condition.

“I was at work (in L.A.,) in the middle of a client, and somebody told me they found her unresponsive in a hotel room in Florida, so immediately I knew that she was at the Hard Rock, because that’s where she always stayed,” said Serrano, 34, in an exclusive telephone interview with MÁS magazine from her Studio City home. “‘Unresponsive’ to me meant that she had just passed out, something just happened and she was going to be OK.”

As time passed, Serrano nervously waited for word on Smith’s status.

“I was thinking, ‘She’s gonna be OK, she’s gonna be OK,” Serrano recalled.

Then, the devastating news was announced over the radio, and relayed to Serrano through a frantic series of text messages and a flood of cell phone calls.

Her friend was dead, and Serrano’s mind went into a spin.

“Of course, I flipped out,” she said.

Foul play has since been ruled out as the cause of Smith’s death, but the investigation continues as to what actually killed the former reality TV star and Trim Spa diet spokeswoman, whose 20-year-old son, Daniel, also died suddenly Sept. 10 — just three days after the arrival of his newborn sister — while visiting Smith in a Nassau hospital.

For Serrano, as much as she wants answers in the death of Smith, this is a time to mourn a dear friend and a time to set the record straight.

Media frenzy and tabloid reports did much to fuel a persona of Smith that did not accurately portray her, according to Serrano.

Smith’s existence in front of the cameras was often a spectacle of circus proportions.

But to Serrano, Smith’s life away from the celebrity spotlight was really the opposite.

She fondly recalled how the pair first met, quite by fate.

“Anna had lost her hairdresser, and Kimmy (Smith’s personal assistant) was getting her hair done by my boss,” said Serrano, a hairstylist for nearly 17 years now. “My boss said she (Smith) needed hair extensions, so she basically sent her to me.”

For their first appointment, Serrano visited Smith’s home — also in Studio City — the same house where “The Anna Nicole Show” on the “E!” channel was taped, conveniently located behind the salon where Serrano worked.

Serrano remembers briefly meeting Smith on a few social occasions prior to that day’s appointment, but never thought it would lead to a client relationship, let alone a friendship.

“Honestly, it was kind of weird because the first time I met her, I walked into her house, and since I had always watched her show, it felt like I already knew her,” said Serrano of that day. “But also before, I have this weird thing where I know who I’m going to meet. It was like I already knew her.”

Serrano was escorted to the star’s bedroom for an introduction.

“It was just really quiet,” she said. “Her house is really big, and I walked into her room, and she was sitting on her bed, and she just looked really pretty, just from out of bed. No make-up, she just looked really pretty.”

After their second styling appointment, Serrano — who previously worked at Outrage salon in downtown Bakersfield — was notified that Smith liked her work and wanted to hire Serrano as her personal stylist.

“Kimmy told me, ‘Anna really likes you, we were wondering if you could come more often, or if you could work with her every time she needs you for something and travel,’” Serrano said. “That was a compliment — and a big deal. I didn’t know it was going to happen in my future.”

That future took Serrano along with Smith to various locations, including a glamorous photo shoot for Trim Spa and a couple months in Vermont for the filming of “Illegal Aliens” (2006), a yet to be released movie that also included a small role for Smith’s son.

Serrano spent many flights seated next to Smith, even cat-napping together between destinations. When staying in hotels, they often had suites located across from each other.

In fact, that was just the case in early January, when the pair stayed in the same hotel that would be the site of Smith’s eventual death — the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Florida.

“I was in the Bahamas vacationing, but then when I got there, she (Smith) had decided she wanted to go get this boat,” said Serrano about Smith’s recent decision to purchase a yacht for easier traveling within the Bahamas. “We all went together to Florida to stay at the Hard Rock for a day or two, while Howard (K. Stern, Smith’s attorney) went out looking for the right boat she wanted.”

Serrano said that Smith planned to christen her yacht, “The Cracker” because that was Daniel’s nickname. While at the Hard Rock, fight promoter Don King invited Smith and her party to a heavyweight championship bout after learning the celebrity was there, Serrano said.

But Smith was more like regular people than her celebrity image, according to Serrano.

Because she was from Bakersfield, Serrano said she always felt a common bond with the starlet, who being from Mexia, Texas, also knew all about life with that small town feel.

“She was like a real person, and I always explain to people that she was somebody that was like from Bakersfield,” Serrano said. “She wasn’t like how you would think Hollywood people were like — she’d cook for you, get up and do anything for you.”

Although, Smith never did make a visit to Bakersfield — but not because she didn’t want to, Serrano said.

“She never went with me, but I remember her getting mad that I didn’t take her with me when I went. Mad because I didn’t invite her,” said Serrano.

Serrano also appreciated Smith’s non-judgmental attitude toward her hairstylist’s appearance, which includes a wide assortment of colorful “body art.”

“She didn’t judge me,” said Serrano of Smith. “She didn’t think I was weird for having tattoos like other people do.”

Some of Serrano’s most memorable times spent with Smith, include activities much more on the mundane side, but fun just the same, she said.

“I went there twice a week to do her hair, but I went there everyday after work. I knew that she didn’t have a lot of friends. I mean, you can tell when someone doesn’t, and she always wanted to watch TV with me, and she always just wanted to hangout,” she said. “‘Fear Factor’ was like her favorite thing ever. She’d watch it to the point that I’d get tired of it and get grossed out by it. If not that, it would just be like rented DVD’s — her favorite was watching horror movies.”

As she watches the media storm surrounding her friend’s untimely death, including what Serrano calls false reports and unfair assessments, it’s a horror movie of sorts come true.

And though she knows firsthand how difficult it was for Smith to deal with Daniel’s death, Serrano strongly believes this was not a suicide.

“The first thought going through my head was that she was left alone, she thought of Daniel, she committed suicide,” Serrano said. “Anytime you left her alone, she thought of Daniel too much. Even if you were in front of her, sometimes she would break down and think of Daniel ... she wanted to see Daniel again ... she would cry a lot, so I just assumed that it was a suicide.

“But then I really thought about it, about the boat, that Howard wasn’t in the room, when they said Moe was there — that’s her bodyguard — his wife was there — that’s the nurse — and they started saying how many people were in the room ... Moe’s kids were there, so it probably happened in front of his kids ... they used to like to visit Anna. So then I started thinking that there was no possibility that she would ever commit suicide in front of children, in Florida, with all those people — ... you just don’t do that, you know?”

Plus, Serrano said, Smith was very involved in the building/remodeling of her new home in the Bahamas, yet another sign that she was looking toward the future.

“She was building a dance studio there ... She was having a 10-foot wall built up around her house so that nobody could, like, take pictures of the baby. She wanted privacy,” Serrano said.

Since Smith’s death, Serrano has tried to contact Stern, whom she considers her friend as well, but has yet to speak with him.

“I tried to call him on the numbers I have, and of course, they were her (Smith’s) phone numbers and her phone and I don’t know if he’s gonna check ‘em — I know eventually he (will), but it’s her voice that answers when you call,” said Serrano, who’s also getting calls from various tabloids looking for a story in the midst of a tragedy.

But, for Serrano, the real story about Anna Nicole Smith is one of a sweet person, a cherished friend, someone who treated her hairstylist like family and her devoted fans with a devotion of her own.

“She loved her fans; she loved every single person, every fan,” Serrano said.

Serrano and Smith planned to see each other again next month, in the Bahamas for Serrano’s upcoming 35th birthday.

Instead, Serrano has made another plan — she’s getting a new tattoo added to the canvas that is her skin: a portrait of Anna Nicole Smith.

Matt Munoz Más staff

8,181 posted on 04/25/2007 6:46:20 AM PDT by Luvlyness (IC Inquest Updates)
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To: stlnative; Arizona Carolyn; TexKat; Rte66; mom4kittys; sodpoodle; Lizarde; Jrabbit; uncitizen; ...
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"Anna Nicole Smith spent 9½ hours trying on 120 fur coats in the NUDE at a Seventh Ave. showroom in 1992. Fur and jewelry designer Andre Van Pier says, "She stared at herself in the mirror, posing. ... I've never seen anyone who was so turned on to furs in my entire life."

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/04/23/2007-04-23_warming_plea_steams_rove.html

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8,182 posted on 04/25/2007 6:47:00 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: uncitizen; blueplum; Lizarde; sodpoodle

Counters? You got counters? I thought that was just to collect all your husbands junk. LOLL We had a special cabinet installed in the kitchen so he could put all his hunting etc cra... errrr, stuff in/on and what does he do? You guessed it.


8,183 posted on 04/25/2007 6:55:55 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Dante3

Is there an extreme shortage of competent MEs that the likes of the muddled Perper got to do the autopsy in such a high profile case?
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Instead of doctor shopping, they ME shopped. “Let’s see, where is the most imcompetant boob in the US so I can make sure she dies there”?


8,184 posted on 04/25/2007 6:55:58 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Longstanding member of the FIRM)
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To: gopheraj
Counters? You got counters? I thought that was just to collect all your husbands junk. LOLL We had a special cabinet installed in the kitchen so he could put all his hunting etc cra... errrr, stuff in/on and what does he do? You guessed it.

Arggh! These men and their gun fun. The other day my hubs was showing off one of his nicer guns to two of the movers. Did he put it back in the gun safe afterward?...you guessed it. So last night he asks ME: "Where's the gun?"! I said "I dunno, you shouldn't have been showing it off!" Anyway, he said he thinks the movers put it in the bedroom......(more at 11)

8,185 posted on 04/25/2007 7:00:58 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Southerngl

“””Instead of doctor shopping, they ME shopped.”””

You may be on to something - especially since Wecht knew Perper.

It is so credible that HK$ got into a conversation with Wecht about undetectable drugs, autopsy procedures and coroners while Wecht was in the Bahamas for Daniel’s autopsies...and he may have had anecdotes about Perper’s gullibility on manner of death (not necessarily cause).

No telling what good stuff HK$ & KE learned from Wecht.

That was good thinking SG.


8,186 posted on 04/25/2007 7:03:12 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Sacajaweau

I thought she said “we were talking” - like all of them were sitting around chatting and *she* said she was needing to draw up a new will - thinking back on it now, I thought this was after Daniel’s death, but we didn’t know that then - and so either HKS or ANS piped up that he or she needed to do ANS’s, too.

We knew so little (at least, I did) when that interview was on, that most of it went right past me, except the really odd stuff. *We* the FReepers now know Dr Khris uses the royal “we” as “we” do. And you can’t count on ET’s website to have written stories that match what they televised - and very few of the details that were discussed are ever repeated in text.

(I’m between my 2nd and 3rd bad T-storm right now and will probably have to shut everything down again within the hour.)


8,187 posted on 04/25/2007 7:05:15 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: sodpoodle

He also talks about his relationship with Anna’s late son, DANIEL. He tells OK! that near the end of his life, Daniel was living in the fast lane.

“He might have started hanging out with the wrong group of kids when he went to college,” Larry tells the magazine. “He was 20 when he went to college so I think it was too much too quick.”
***

What a coincidence that he went for the totally common street drug methadone. /s


8,188 posted on 04/25/2007 7:11:34 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Longstanding member of the FIRM)
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To: Sacajaweau

I remember learnning once in an NLP class I took - Neuro-Linguistic Programming - that when someone hugs you and pats you while doing it, that the hug is insincere.

They’re either uncomfortable with you or deceiving you. Men are notorious about this, which I think is more from discomfort at hugging.

Anyway, I noticed HKS is always patting Dannielynn, even when she doesn’t need burping. And that horrible clip of him holding her and crying, I think when he told her over and over that her momma is dead - he is gripping that child so hard I’m afraid she’s going to pass out.

And she really looks like she already has. She wasn’t asleep, just totally out of it and a little “dead weight,” not moving a muscle. It is scary to see.


8,189 posted on 04/25/2007 7:11:45 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Sacajaweau

Oh, yeah, and about the “girl trouble” Daniel was said to have had - Anna said “some girl” with a sneer in her voice.

I was really confused about what she was saying (so, what else is new?). First, she said he had become abusive to her. OK, that’s appropriate for a kid to be cutting the apron strings at that age and boys have to do it kind of explosively (not to mention the strange relationship between Daniel and Anna - like he was the husband or boyfriend or sometimes father - and Anna was the S.O.).

So, she thinks he’s being abusive “at first” - then she “finds out” he has a GF. Then she finds out they broke up and he’s having problems over that. Then, she says “that’s when he changed.”

I never got whether he had changed back to being softer and kinder and needing her again, when he had the break-up - or whether all the “abusive” stuff came about after the GF break-up. Did you get it?


8,190 posted on 04/25/2007 7:18:26 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: All

OFF TOPIC

It’s Official - Fox News

ROSIE is off the VIEW!!!!!


8,191 posted on 04/25/2007 7:18:45 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: uncitizen; gopheraj; sodpoodle; Lizarde
I do declare we've hit rock bottom on this thread resorting to talk about cookies and spices and kitchen organization. But- maybe not. We could go lower. Wanna try? Have we gone into draperies yet? How bout those curly cue light bulbs?

Here's a rock bottom moment....Many moons ago when I was first married, every Monday I would put the record albums away in alphabetical order. I also used to make hospital corners on the bed, and use a toothbrush on the baseboards. For my spice cabinet(thank the Lord it hides behind a door), I have a jumble of pickle jars and little plastic containers with hand written labels on them. New Mexico Chile powder, paprika, and cayenne all look alike. After damn near killing all of us, I took some time to transfer the spices from the clothespin secured cellophane bags, to permanent containers. I've turned into such a slob....

8,192 posted on 04/25/2007 7:19:08 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Sacajaweau

I’m not 100% certain that KE *saw* Daniel right before he left for Nassau. She said she “talked to him.”

When I had it in my mind that he might be staying in ANS’s Avenida del Sol house, I thought perhaps KE had been watching out for him from next door and maybe “spying” on him for ANS - IOW, just reporting his comings and goings or convos she had with him.

When I realized he was living with Ray Martino in a different part of town, I wasn’t sure what to make of the relationship between KE and Daniel. Still don’t know.


8,193 posted on 04/25/2007 7:22:14 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

If I could post pictures as quickly as some - I would post one I took about 30 minutes ago of a squall line that passed here. It got as dark as the midnight for a while - very startling to see.
Keep an eye out.


8,194 posted on 04/25/2007 7:22:15 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: Southerngl

“Instead of doctor shopping, they ME shopped. “Let’s see, where is the most imcompetant boob in the US so I can make sure she dies there”?”

LOL,really good. And then, let’s get our buddies to set up a TV deal for him.


8,195 posted on 04/25/2007 7:22:50 AM PDT by nynjanais
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To: shywolf
" ... drowning in offers to open his own hotels, restaurants, nightclubs, ..."

Well, that's all King Eric right there - and maybe some other Gibsons = HKS.

8,196 posted on 04/25/2007 7:25:00 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: nynjanais; Lizarde

Lizarde posted this

“just to entertain ourselves: look at this pitiful list of witnesses called by Dr. Perper:
1. Howard K. Stern, lawyer and companion of the deceased.
2. Khristine Eroshevich, M.D., Ph.D., psychiatrist and friend of the deceased.
3. Timothy Baretts, M.D., psychiatrist who treated the decedent after the death of her son
Daniel.
4. Hubert Minnis, M.D., obstetrician, who delivered the decedent’s living child.
5. Duane Sands, M.D., surgeon who treated the decedent for a collapsed lung, pneumonitis
and pleural effusion.
6. Ray Martino, long time friend and TV producer.
7. James Konstantakis, M.D., internal medicine, Bahamas; saw the decedent just once.
8. Nadine and Queetlie Alexis, both nannies and housekeepers, for the decedent’s newborn
until December 2006.
9. Maurice (“Big Mo”) Brighthaupt, former bodyguard and friend of the decedent;
administered CPR at the hotel suite and called Seminole Police.
10. Tasma Brighthaupt, wife of Maurice, first person to administer CPR to Anna Nicole Smith
and present when she was found unresponsive in bed.
11. Larry Birkhead, ex-companion of Anna Nicole Smith.
12. Donald E. Hogan, father of the deceased.”
____________________________________________________
Question: Why was Wecht not interviewed regarding his conversations with his client ANS and bystander HK$?
Perhaps he had something embarrassing to hide which is why he kept sweating and getting redfaced in some of his interviews. Mmmmmmmm


8,197 posted on 04/25/2007 7:29:53 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Oh dear. Her cup runneth over...


8,198 posted on 04/25/2007 7:31:40 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Luvlyness

Anna needed more Sandy Serranos in her life, and less goats.


8,199 posted on 04/25/2007 7:33:09 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: sodpoodle

Finally. Babs has had enough.


8,200 posted on 04/25/2007 7:42:01 AM PDT by sarasota
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