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Source: Vick 'one of the heavyweights' in dogfighting
ESPN ^ | Updated: May 27, 2007, 10:48 AM ET | By Kelly Naqi

Posted on 05/27/2007 11:45:56 AM PDT by Perdogg

He arrived at the hotel room, where our cameras were set up, in a T-shirt and jeans. "I'm nervous," he said, surveying our lights and camera equipment. "I've never done anything like this before."

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1 posted on 05/27/2007 11:45:57 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Baynative

From some of what I read, pitt bulls enjoy fighting and the most unnatural thing you can do with them is try to make house pets of them; that would say that dog fighting simply needs standards and reasonable rules. The one other reasonable thing I know of which people do with pitt bulls is hunt hogs with them, which is basically a redneck olympics event of sorts.


3 posted on 05/27/2007 11:58:55 AM PDT by rickdylan
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4 posted on 05/27/2007 11:59:17 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again..The Falcons traded the wrong QB..


5 posted on 05/27/2007 12:11:40 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Every Democrat Party cause eventually becomes a business then it degenerates into a racket.)
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To: rickdylan
The one other reasonable thing I know of which people do with pitt bulls is hunt hogs with them, which is basically a redneck olympics event of sorts.

You really meant to write unreasonable, right?

6 posted on 05/27/2007 12:26:10 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one; rickdylan

One the best thing any one could to temper a pit bull is cross breed it with another type, or hyper vigor.

I would rather have a heinz 57 than any other type of dog.

I had one a child, it had german shepherd in him, it’s mane was like that horse. That was most loving dog who never had any health problems.

I think pure breeding is cruelty.


7 posted on 05/27/2007 12:40:33 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: rickdylan
From some of what I read, pitt bulls enjoy fighting and the most unnatural thing you can do with them is try to make house pets of them; that would say that dog fighting simply needs standards and reasonable rules.

Oh yeah, sure, just as they enjoy receiving electric shocks from sub-human vermin to force them into fighting if they are reluctant, but also to make them experience pain so they will lash out in confusion at whatever may be around them that could be causing it.

Or how these worthless depraved human scum steal pet dogs to use as PIT BULL BAIT.

They take a friendly animal, duct tape it's snout shut rendering it completely defenseless and then after antagonizing the pit bulls by electroshock, toss the helpless pet dog into the ring for all the pit bulls to attack to work them up into a blood rage.

Another sports site recently had a story on a heavyweight boxer who purchased one dog per day, duct-taped it's snout and tossed it to his dogs to be helplessly ripped to shreds - for "training".

The heavyweight boxer fortunately is now a paralyzed vegetable but he should suffer much, much worse for this cruelty. I have a good suspcion of what will be his own fate, each day in hell.

I ordinarily refrain from such commentary, but in this instance I suggest that you and your friends look into a promising career as pit bull bait.

8 posted on 05/27/2007 12:46:51 PM PDT by Youngstown (Demand justice for the crew of the U.S.S. Liberty! http://www.ussliberty.org/)
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To: rickdylan
From some of what I read, pitt bulls enjoy fighting

Those dogs don't get asked if they want to fight and DIE...and why are you making excuses for Vick?

9 posted on 05/27/2007 1:53:51 PM PDT by Dog (May 17, 2007 the day I became an INDEPENDENT!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again..The Falcons traded the wrong QB..

And the Chargers traded the right draft pick.
10 posted on 05/27/2007 1:54:56 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Thompson/Franks '08)
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To: Perdogg
According to what I've heard on several ESPN Radio talk shows, if the police do implicate Michael Vick as being associated with dog fighting not only will NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell likely impose a pretty severe suspension (likely one year minimum), but you could actually see both the Atlanta Falcons cutting Vick from the roster and Nike ending their endorsement deal with Vick in very short order.

A major shame, too--Michael Vick had the potential to be an all-time great quarterback.

11 posted on 05/27/2007 3:13:49 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: RayChuang88

Really? Based on what we’ve seen from him so far?


12 posted on 05/27/2007 4:46:38 PM PDT by gruffwolf (Before you ask, I held my nose and voted for all the "Republican" candidates in '06.)
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To: Perdogg

Well, ya know, I had Vick two years in fantasy football...and he just sucked. As a dog enthusiast and dog owner, it’s now damned easy for me to hate him even more! To hell with him...he’s worthless in many ways.


13 posted on 05/27/2007 4:49:37 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Perdogg

Oh boy.


14 posted on 05/27/2007 4:50:57 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I guess their best strategy now is to tank the season and hope they can draft Brohm next year.


15 posted on 05/27/2007 4:51:44 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: The Pack Knight

Think about what a mess they’d be today if they didn’t.


16 posted on 05/27/2007 4:53:11 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Perdogg

ESPN’s Inside the Lines showed the captured dog fighting video today complete with the blood curdling audio. They also had a confidential FBI informant who’s dogs actually fought Vick’s dogs. According to him, Vick is one of the “heavyweights” in dogfighting.

The videos were gruesome to say the least. They made me extremely angry. If it is true that Vick is one of the “heavyweights” then I hope he spends some time behind bars and is kicked out of the league for good.


17 posted on 05/27/2007 4:57:05 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Perdogg

“Ron Mexico” (aka Michael Vick) is a thug, pure and simple.


18 posted on 05/27/2007 9:16:55 PM PDT by Roberts
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To: mainepatsfan
Especially when you consider that they may well have had to draft a running back in the first round next year...

The top RB on the board in 2002? Why, that would be one William Green. Ask the Browns how he worked out.
19 posted on 05/27/2007 9:20:24 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Thompson/Franks '08)
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To: Roberts

yea, I love watchin the post-game interviews with him..he comes out lookin like he could be sellin crack on any street corner in the hood..contrast that with peyton manning (and others), who are in suit and tie..


20 posted on 05/28/2007 4:51:30 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Every Democrat Party cause eventually becomes a business then it degenerates into a racket.)
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To: Perdogg
Related link...

Vick merits NFL penalty at very least

21 posted on 05/28/2007 4:55:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Perdogg
NFL culture has to change
22 posted on 05/28/2007 4:56:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: RayChuang88
I agree with the first part; Goodell will ban Vick for at least a year for lying to his face about his involvement (maybe even longer if he adds in time for the actual dog fighting). I also agree that Vick gets cut and all endorsments are off.

As far as Vick having the potential of being an all-time great, I haven't seen anything in the last six years that would make me believe that he is even a good quarterback, much less a great quarterback. He earns his popularity by playing to the bling-bling crowd.

23 posted on 05/28/2007 7:12:41 AM PDT by flair2000
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To: flair2000
As far as Vick having the potential of being an all-time great, I haven't seen anything in the last six years that would make me believe that he is even a good quarterback, much less a great quarterback.

Vick could have been another Steve Young under the right coach, in my humble opinion.

24 posted on 05/28/2007 7:47:31 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Perdogg

Michael Vick? The football player? I can’t remember ever hearing or reading anything good about him.


25 posted on 05/28/2007 2:02:54 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Continental Soldier
Michael Vick? The football player?

Don't you mean "Ron Mexico?"

26 posted on 05/28/2007 2:06:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

Does he use that name while torturing dogs also?

I thought he just used it because he has herpes and likes to lie to women about it prior to unprotected sex.


27 posted on 05/28/2007 2:25:46 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: rickdylan

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0405051vick1.html

He looks like a really good man.

Please continue to support him.


28 posted on 05/28/2007 2:28:01 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Eaker
I'd not said anything about Vick, just about dog fighting.

A case similar to that of pit bulls could likely be made for the Utes and Commanches, who were forced into some sort of a peace treaty ending 800 years of war about thirty years ago or thereabouts. They say that fighting is so bred into those guys at this point that if a week goes by and they don't get into some sort of a fight, they get sick.

29 posted on 05/28/2007 3:10:22 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: rickdylan

Even though you don’t have a peer reviewed cite I will run with it.

Utes and Commanches trained their young to protect their tribe.

Scum like Vick breed these dogs to fight so that they can bet on the outcome and then kill them at the end of their career.

I am part American Indian and for you to compare their actions raising children to pieces of shit like Vick is enough for me to wish doom on you.


30 posted on 05/28/2007 3:25:47 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: rickdylan
A case similar to that of pit bulls could likely be made for the Utes...

"Did you just say 'Utes'?"

31 posted on 05/28/2007 5:50:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Eaker

Sorry, that likely sounded worse than was intended. I was pointing out that there actually are both people and animals who are inherently warlike.


32 posted on 05/28/2007 6:14:31 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Got three golden retrievers......once the dog owning NFL fan understands that to train a p/b to fight, they often have to offer up a defenseless mutt (often picked up at shelters) for the p/b to whett his appetite on, then Vick is going to be done for.


33 posted on 05/29/2007 6:32:16 AM PDT by stationkeeper
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To: Perdogg

YIKES!


34 posted on 05/29/2007 6:39:27 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Perdogg

Nonsense.

Mutts have just as much trouble as any given purebred.

That all is a myth.

It depends on the heritage, and plenty “pure” heritage is good. Although not enough!


35 posted on 05/29/2007 6:41:41 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: rickdylan

Moslems, anyone?


36 posted on 05/29/2007 6:47:07 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: RayChuang88

He could have been an ultimate wishbone quarterback if anybody in the NFL ever had the brains to try something like that.


37 posted on 05/29/2007 9:04:42 AM PDT by jeddavis
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To: Baynative
Thank you. What you said.

maybe Vick could take up the UFC and get a taste.

38 posted on 05/29/2007 9:40:34 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (The evil which you fear becomes a certainty by what you do.)
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To: rickdylan

SOME pit bulls are bred for viciousness and abused from birth to make them even more so. If they lack in viciousness, they are hung, shot, electrocuted or beaten to death. Those that survive are further abused, starved and then thrown into a deep pit with another bull dog where their only way to survive is to maim or kill their own kind. If they survive and lose, they are beaten more or killed; if they survive and win, they get to do this again and again.

“Enjoy” is not an adjective that I think applies to any aspect of these animal’s lives.


39 posted on 07/18/2007 3:04:56 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

The only reasonable use I’ve ever heard of for pit bulls is hog hunting. Dog fighting is not reasonable and Michael Vick is an a**hole. At this point I’m pretty much writing the NFL off; they no longer have anything I’m interested in.


40 posted on 07/18/2007 5:10:56 AM PDT by rickdylan
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