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Lost documents shed light on Black Death
The Times ^ | June 1, 2007 | Simon de Bruxelles

Posted on 06/01/2007 6:38:06 AM PDT by Daffynition

For centuries, rats and fleas have been fingered as the culprits responsible for the Black Death, the medieval plague that killed as many as two thirds of Europe’s population.

But historians studying 14th-century court records from Dorset believe they may have uncovered evidence that exonerates them. The parchment records, contained in a recently-discovered archive, reveal that an estimated 50 per cent of the 2,000 people living in Gillingham died within four months of the Black Death reaching the town in October 1348.

The deaths are recorded in land transfers lodged with the manorial court which – unusually for the period – sat every three weeks, giving a clear picture of who had died and when. The records show that 190 of the 300 tenants holding land in the town died during the winter of 1348-49, at a time when a form of bubonic plague spread by rat fleas would have been dormant.

Experts now believe that the Black Death is more likely to have been a viral infection, similar to haemorrhagic fever or ebola, that spread from person to person.

The records came to light after they were donated to the Dorset History Centre by a firm of solicitors in whose office attic they had been stored.

The historian Dr Susan Scott, of the University of Liverpool, said the documents backed up her theory that the outbreak was not caused by bubonic plague.

She said: “Bubonic plague relies on fleas breeding and it is too cold during winter in Britain for this to happen.”


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To: blam
Ward Churchill has this all figured out. The cause was "smallpox blankets" distributed by the U.S. Army.

(Don't bother telling him there was no U.S. Army in the 16th Century - you'd expect a fake Indian to produce fake scholarship.)

41 posted on 06/01/2007 7:37:03 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: norton
I recently learned this reading a book recommended here on FR and immediately wondered if 'buboe' was the source for 'boo-boo'. Wouldn't surprise me since 'Ring around the Rosy' morphed from a song about death by the same means.

Fascinating idea, I bet you're onto something there!

42 posted on 06/01/2007 8:37:46 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (In the end, history is what God remembers.)
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To: rainbow sprinkles
The noble and unfairly maligned rattus rattus gets a reprieve after 7 centuries.
43 posted on 06/01/2007 10:12:56 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: Pelham

Sorry I wandered on to this thread so late in the discourse, but there was a warm period in Europe from about (if memory serves me) 1100 to 1300. We’re talking major warm winters and stifling summers. You could even call it G——l W-——g. No, seriously, fleas could have survived those winters.


44 posted on 06/02/2007 12:33:41 AM PDT by Nucluside (Cultural Relativism is a lie; Western culture IS superior)
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To: To Hell With Poverty; norton
Ring around the Rosy' morphed from a song about death

Not so.

45 posted on 06/02/2007 1:35:39 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: rainbow sprinkles
Was it not during this period that global warming was in effect? So the winter would not have been cold enough to defer the fleas and rats, but of course global warming is just now happening for the first time in history so that is not possible is it?
46 posted on 06/02/2007 5:57:37 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: blam

You’ve probably seen this map before....

http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf


47 posted on 06/02/2007 6:10:39 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Jeff Chandler
Not so.

No? It's a common take on the song & I didn't know there was any other. Do tell.

48 posted on 06/02/2007 6:27:23 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: rainbow sprinkles
Are they saying that fleas living on warm bodies in the winter in England do not breed because it is too cold?

Is this another case of junk science?

49 posted on 06/02/2007 6:54:54 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: GoLightly

It’s possible.


50 posted on 06/02/2007 7:32:24 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: blam

America hasn’t always been as attractive a place as it is right now. Ice sheets, asteroids, hurricanes, megavolcanos, plagues of all kinds, drought, earthquakes, etc. It’s probably going to come around again at some point.


51 posted on 06/02/2007 7:48:15 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Please edify..

If I'm wrong & so much of what's written is wrong, I'd like to know what's corrrect.

(hope it's a good story)

52 posted on 06/02/2007 9:18:23 AM PDT by norton
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To: norton
Snopes
53 posted on 06/02/2007 12:30:36 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: GoLightly

see #53


54 posted on 06/02/2007 12:32:17 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: rainbow sprinkles
Experts now believe that the Black Death is more likely to have been a viral infection, similar to haemorrhagic fever or ebola, that spread from person to person.

What experts? I never heard that. Where are they? What do they say? What have they published?

55 posted on 06/02/2007 8:21:00 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Nucluside

Ha. Just what I suspected- yet another rat-basher.

There is no end to the oppression.


56 posted on 06/02/2007 11:33:36 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: Pelham

LMAO!


57 posted on 06/04/2007 10:05:01 AM PDT by Nucluside (Cultural Relativism is a lie; Western culture IS superior)
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58 posted on 03/01/2011 5:17:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Daffynition

I can’t get the link to work. :(


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No wonder the link doesn’t work the article is OLD. lol


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