Note: this topic is from Tuesday, June 26, 2007. A re-ping.
Posted on 06/26/2007 11:34:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Norwegian arhaeologists are puzzled by a find which indicates an Inca Indian died and was buried in the Oestfold city of Sarpsborg 1000 years ago. The remains of two elderly men and a baby were discovered during work in a garden, and one of the skulls indicates that the man was an Inca Indian. There is a genetic flaw in the neck, which is believed to be limited to the Incas in Peru, says archaeologist Mona Beate Buckholm. The Norway Post suggests that maybe the Vikings travelled even more widely than hitherto believed? Why could not the Viking settlers in New Foundland have strayed further down the coast on one of their fishing trips? Meanwhile, more digging will be made in Sarpsborg, in an attempt to try to find an answer to the puzzle, NRK reports.
(Excerpt) Read more at norwaypost.no ...
To trade with the Egyptian royals for more slaves. (ahem)
And how much more likely someone from Central Asia was engaged in trading along the silk road and wound up in Kiev and followed the trading route further to Scandinavia.
I think rather that the Inca bones are present in most populations, even if in very small numbers. DNA testing would be the way to tell for sure though.
Wow, that's an inflammatory title, and we must be very wary here. Who could be promoting such an idea? The perpetrator is J. Forbes, a professor of Native American Studies at the University of California-Davis. The title above is, in fact, the title of Forbes' forthcoming book. Forbes recently gave a talk on his thesis in Berkeley, and the evidence below is based on a newspaper account of his talk. The account began with:
"It is a common perception, and one which is taught in most history classes, that the Europeans 'discovered' America. Some scholars, however, postulate that it may be quite the opposite: Native Americans went across the Atlantic and 'found' their European counterparts first." Now for the claimed evidence:
* Carribean people were the Polynesians of the Americas. Excellent mariners, they built sophisticated sailing vessels 80-feet long, carrying up to 80 people. With the favorable winds and currents, they had the capabilities of reaching Europe.
* There are tales of "redmen" arriving on the west coast of Portugal during the Middle Ages.
* Columbus himself, during a visit to Ireland, noted the presence of people resembling North Americans.
* Columbus also made notes on Indians in canoes wrecked off the coast of Germany in 1410.
* Inuits (Eskimos) are said to have landed in the Orkneys, off Scotland. Old Inuit harpoon heads have been dug up in Ireland and Scotland.
(Kluepfel, Brian; "Native Americans May Have Found Europe, Says Scholar," Berkeley Voice, January 28, 1993. Cr. P.F. Young.
Comment. Obviously, stronger evidence will be required to convince most archeologists. And what about all the purported claims for early contacts with the Americas by Celts, Phonecians, Hebrews, Romans, Africans, etc,?
From Science Frontiers #87, MAY-JUN 1993. © 1993-2000 William R. Corliss
BGHater’s got another such topic (newer) which has photos of the finds.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1857603/posts?page=27#27
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Thanks for posting.
I’ve never heard about these theories before.
In order to gain support for his theory, Professor Forbes should perhaps consider sailing from America to Europe in a raft or some other sort of primitive watercraft.
In fact, a similar expedition, carried out for similar reasons, has already been undertaken. I’m thinking of Norwegian explorer and writer Thor Heyerdahl and his successful 1947 Kon-Tiki expedition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kon-Tiki
“successful 1947 Kon-Tiki expedition”
- I should have mentioned in my former post that Heyerdahl also made several other successful journeys with other rafts/ships.
There’s a problem with the terminology here. The Inca did not exist either as a tribe or an empire 1000 years ago. Ostensibly they got this trait from their predecessors, but they weren’t Inca.
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Science Frontiers | Science Frontiers #62, Mar-Apr 1989 | William R. Corliss
Posted on 09/15/2006 2:11:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Figure 1: Photograph showing large Inca ossicles. A, B: Inca ossicles, 1: Interparietal suture, 2: Parietooccipital suture, 3: Parietal bone, 4: Occipital bone, 5: Mastoid process
Incan bones found in Østfold[Norway] Aftenposten ^ | 26 June 2007 | Aftenposten
At that date the dead guy would not be an Inca. He might be from an ancestor of the Incans, however.
“It’s entirely possible that Inca could have set sail from their outposts on the Northest cost of what is now Columbia and made it all the way to Iceland with a fresh shipment of cocaine.
This continues to be a regular practice.”
Cali cartel ping.
Bookmark for later rumination....
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