Posted on 07/06/2007 8:32:39 PM PDT by tnarg
by his own words. . .yes.
If that's true, then it could be considered a sort of birth defect.
Birth defects like cleft palate can be cured.
Many ex-homosexuals say that they have been cured and are no longer homosexual.
Does Rosie support the efforts of people who try to cure homosexuals and save them from their anguish? If not why not?
the post states that active homosexuality is sin.
the post does not encourage practicing homosexuality.
did you read the post carefully?
there is nothing in the bible that would conclude that mortals are not born with the homosexual tendency. in fact, as the article posits, the homosexual tendency can very well be a result of ‘the fall.’ much is off kilter in this existence due to ‘the fall,’ including sexuality.
They can justify it Biblically (through perversion of Biblical rendering), socially and psychologically all they care to, it is still wrong and unnatural.
i don’t know how to answer for rosie per your question for her.
i know that there are homosexuals who claim a divine healing.
there are also some among that number who retracted their testimony of healing.
there are others who are remaining adamant in their testimony of a complete healing.
still, there are many who question the fact / truth / integrity of those testimonies.
you have your right to your conclusion.
there are those dedicated biblical, evangelical christians who disagree with you just as honestly.
OK … go with that thought.
I think it says a lot about homosexuals who shake their head and say "I don't believe you. You're lying. I'm not listening."
If it is a lifestyle, then people choose that lifestyle.
If you are born that way, have a chance to be cured, yet refuse to reach for that chance, then you choose to continue as a homosexual.
No matter how you slice it, these people are choosing badly.
this has been common knowledge since at least the Thornbirds
Well, I have always thought he was handsome.
And I thought that he was turned off by Barbara Stanwyck simply because of her old age... ;-)
i think what we as evangelical, biblical, conservative, committed-to-the-bible-as-divine-revelation believers need to remember is that sexuality is complicated.
those who are heterosexual have their complexities—not all that easy to deal with.
those who are homosexual may have chosen that ‘along life’s way’ or they may have been born with that tendency due to ‘the fall.’
in any case, all may be saved by christ’s grace.
those who are unmarried heterosexual are expected to remain celibate.
those who are homosexual are expected to remain celibate.
the only active sexual activity the bible permits morally is that within the bond of marriage.
obviously many agree, of both genders.
and for those in hollywood it was known long prior to the thornbirds, that is, according to his autobiography.
Although I find it distasteful, if a man somehow feels compelled to wear pink sweaters, work as an interior decorator and say that every good thing is "Fabulous!", I can't condemn that behavior. It is not sinful.
However, if that man engages in sex with other men, is an activist for homosexual marriage, or argues that there's nothing wrong with homosexual acts, then we have a problem. These are sins. They are bad choices. Human Nature is flawed, and we all have our struggles. A man (or woman) who gives in to homosexual urges is making a mistake and both Church and State ought to completely condemn the commission of these mistakes.
I remember back in the 70’s, they were doing research about, I think they called it “imprinting”. Anyway, the posit was that whatever your first, or first of several, pleasurable encounters were would “imprint” your sexual response. For some people that I knew back then, it was like turning on a light switch. I guess all reasonable research has been abandoned.
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