He's morphing into Dr. Smith
William, my boy, come here...
Posted on 07/06/2007 8:32:39 PM PDT by tnarg
thanks.
but there are many readers of this post who just may not be ‘in the choir’ but perusing from outside the choir.
we will never know all persons’ identities under the label ‘views’ to this post or any other post.
Q
maybe i’m not into codes but does Q stand for some message i’m not up to deciphering?
will pick up on this chit-chat tomorrow for it is quite late where i am at present—on saturday night / sunday morning.
thanks for noting.
God has already forgiven her. Jesus is the proof of that. Isn’t that enough for you? If there are consequences for her actions she’s already encountered them. It’s not to us to judge.
non nobis Domine non nobis sed nomini tuo da gloriam (psalms)
Sort of a British thing for “thank you” … Q, get it! Worked with a Brit years ago and I guess some things stick.
Mayhap I should elaborate … “thank you” or in Brit, thank Q.
He's morphing into Dr. Smith
William, my boy, come here...
There are other positions as well.
Science has failed to support the born that way theory and from what I've read, scientists who are also homosexual have stated they never will find a gay gene or any science supporting the born that way theory. I believe they make the above statements because science has, repeatedly, demonstrated environment plays a major factor.
But if homosexuals are not born that way and they don't choose their same-sex attraction, what other positions exist? That's a great question with a complicated answer.
Former homosexuals or ex-gays exist, some of whom are freepers and their numbers are growing. I posted the Michael Glatze story a couple of days ago. Michael was the founding editor of Young Gay America magazine. Charlene Cothran, longtime publisher of Venus magazine is another. Both Michael and Charlene were leaders in the homosexual community.
The I Do Exist video documents the lives of 5 former homosexuals.
The common theme we see in each story is the claim that their same-sex attraction wasn't a choice... but neither were they born that way... What former homosexuals tell us is their same-sex attraction wasn't a choice because they were confused. The science behind homosexuality is complex and can only be understood by studying all the available evidence.
Michael Glatze says:
Part of the homosexual agenda is getting people to stop considering that conversion is even a viable question to be asked, let alone whether or not it works.That much is obvious for those having followed the homosexual agenda for years but it's good to see a former leader in the homosexual community make such an honest statement.
Of course there are those who claim to be Queer By Choice and there are others who have previously admitted to choosing the homosexual lifestyle.
The issue is definitely complicated.
I think it’s odd that people on this forum dwell so much on the question of whether homosexuality is inborn or developed post-birth. Whether it is genetic, or hormonal, or learned.
Those questions might matter to the activists on either side who seek to make petty arguments this way or that way.. I guarantee the average homosexual doesn’t give two sh*ts how he came to be attracted to the same sex. He doesn’t care why he likes the same sex because he can’t imagine being any other way. He doesn’t want to be. Activists opposing “the homosexualization of America” should focus on convincing homosexuals that they should want to be heterosexual, or they should drop the issue altogether. Everything else is “sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
“If that’s true, then it could be considered a sort of birth defect.”
That’s all Dr. Laura was trying to say when she mentioned that it is a “biological error”. Then the homosexual militants flew into a rage swarm and forced the networks to cancel her tv show. Even a child has the common sense to see that men and woman, just like all the animals, are designed to procreate.
As far as Richard Chamberlain - I stand by what Michael Savage says in that he has one of those soft, euro-pedophiliac unisex faces. It doesn’t surprise me in least that he is a b-pirate.
Guessing that many people didn’t read the article all the way through.
the lord forgives those who repent. they must repent in order to show their sincere contrition for committing sins. there is no ‘automatic’ with divine grace and mercy.
o, ok. thanks for the explanation.
those into biblical study find themselves in biblical study, hence the research into various moral dimensions. and so it will always be as long as there are biblical believers who take the bible seriously as divine revelation.
i think u r correct on that one. sad. they get hot and bothered and run to reply without reading the entire post. their mistake, not the poster’s.
I'm curious what Bible version you used as it looks like the New American Standard, but not quite. You may not realize this but you quoted verse 10 with verse 9 and if you keep reading to verse 11 you'll see something very interesting; for verse 11 states (In the NASB):
Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.The key here is such were some of you. Change is possible.
o yes. change is very much possible. very much so.
thank you for pointing that out.
i think that it is possible but i personally—with no data to go on—think it is rare. nevertheless, you and i know that with the lord anything is possible.
on another point, i think there are countless homosexual leaning born again christians who are celibate and wrestle daily with this homosexual situation.
they pray for deliverance but they do not experience deliverance. i have no stats on that. none. it is just my thinking this through.
nevertheless, there are countless heterosexual born again celibate christians who wrestle with the normal sec drive and wrestle with that daily. so welcome to this earth’s existence, eh?
thanks again.
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