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Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (Spoiler Alert!!)
07/11/07 | Dianna

Posted on 07/11/2007 12:44:49 AM PDT by Dianna

Please DO NOT read this thread if you have not seen the movie. Even if you have read this book, topics under discussion can affect what you will expect in the last book.

Several pet theories for the Deathy Hallows have, perhaps, been laid to rest by the release of this movie. A number of plot points I had thought were important to the end of the series were completely left out of Order of the Phoenix.

1. There is absolutely NO reference to the cleaning of Grimmauld Place. Thus, any speculation about the locket horcrux being hoarded by Kreacher must be false.

2. The prophecy was never heard in full. The portion of the prophecy which could have referred to Neville instead of Harry was omitted.

3. There was no mention of Percy's estrangement from his family. Percy was shown at Fudge's side at important points, but unless his face was remembered from previous movies, people not reading the book may not have caught that.

There were two plot changes which puzzled me. Cho was the one who gave Dumbledore's Army away, not the unimportant character of Marietta. Also, Sirius, before he falls through the veil calls Harry, "James". I assume these changes have a point, but I don't know what.

There was also no reference to Hermione and Ron being Prefects. There was no Quidditch at all, so Ron would not be on the team.


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So, FReepers, what do you think? Are you changing your theories for Deathly Hallows? Do you suppose the plot changes are important and that the movies will now diverge from the books?
1 posted on 07/11/2007 12:44:51 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

Ooops, I forgot one:

4. There is no reference to Aunt Petunia knowing about dementors. There was no howler to her which said, “Remember my last”.


2 posted on 07/11/2007 12:56:01 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna
Was their any shown connection between Hillary Clinton and the origin of the dementors?
3 posted on 07/11/2007 1:04:59 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Yes Inspector Gadget I believe your on to something.
4 posted on 07/11/2007 1:07:01 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Dianna

Well I’m sure glad that’s settled.


5 posted on 07/11/2007 1:11:47 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: A CA Guy

No connection whatsoever.
The Dementors have a real job.


6 posted on 07/11/2007 1:29:37 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: RandallFlagg
The Dementors have a real job.

Eating the souls that wizards refuse to eat?

7 posted on 07/11/2007 2:21:22 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Dianna
WHO CARES i always wanted to post that like an ass and i found a thread to be one on....
8 posted on 07/11/2007 2:26:54 AM PDT by Global2010 ( Once I went Nanny Goat at the Ocean and then a Rip Tide hit me.)
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To: Dianna

Harry Potter discovers puberty: “Hey, look everyone! It’s a magic wand!”


9 posted on 07/11/2007 4:39:55 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("Eat yer groatcakes, Porgy!" "Heavy on the thirty weight, Mom!")
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To: Dianna

10 posted on 07/11/2007 4:56:01 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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To: Dianna
One question I have regarding the movies is whether JK Rowling has approved the scripts and the changes from the books. If so, then the details that are omitted or changed in the movies must not be crucial to the last book; if not, then I wonder how the last couple of movies will be able to get to the conclusion of the stories if important details have been changed in previous movies.

For example, the fourth movie, the Goblet of Fire, is completely devoid of the house elves and Hermione's SPEW efforts. Instead of Dobby giving Harry the Gilley-weed, Neville gives it to him. Maybe the house elves aren't going to play much of a role in the final book.

11 posted on 07/11/2007 5:07:40 AM PDT by Blue Eyes (Praying for a miracle.)
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To: Blue Eyes; Dianna
One question I have regarding the movies is whether JK Rowling has approved the scripts and the changes from the books.

According to the fan sites like The Leaky Cauldron and Mugglenet, she is consulted however, the directors/producers/script writers can choose whether or not to accept her suggestions.

One example: For this movie the script writers had originally written “one character” completely out of the movie. JK Rowling told them that while it ultimately was there choice to write out “this particular” character, they would have a difficult time explaining certain events in the final movie.

Since I have not yet seen this movie, I cannot venture a guess as to which “one character” they might be referring to.

12 posted on 07/11/2007 5:21:08 AM PDT by cuz_it_aint_their_money (Fred Thompson & Duncan Hunter in '08)
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... JK Rowling told them that while it ultimately was there choice to write out “this particular” character, they would have a difficult time explaining certain events in the final movie.

This is known as a 'clue' ...

13 posted on 07/11/2007 5:25:43 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: retrokitten

Potter ping!


14 posted on 07/11/2007 5:29:16 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Who are you and what have you done with Hermione Granger?")
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To: Dianna

If there’s no quidditch in “Half-Blood Prince” either (as Dan Radcliffe has said in an interview) how do Harry and Ginny get together?


15 posted on 07/11/2007 5:31:20 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Who are you and what have you done with Hermione Granger?")
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To: CholeraJoe
It was obvious Ginny was slightly jealous of Harry and Cho, and that Ginny was a better wizard than the rest, which Harry respected.

Sirius obviously called Harry "James" as a Freudiam slip because he missed James and saw him in Harry as they fought together.

I didn't like the movie very much, but my daughter loved it and judging from the reviews it will be a big hit.

They put Kreacher in it but he didn't do anything other than reveal his character.

The one thing they did right was rehabilitate Dumbledore into a grand wizard, after making him a total nuisance in the last film.

16 posted on 07/11/2007 5:45:43 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams
I'm going tonight to the IMAX version. The midnight show last night was sold out and I had to work today.

Ginny is a very skilled witch evidenced by how JKR describes her in the book. At age 6 she started taking her brothers' brooms out for flying lessons. By her second year, she could conjure a singing Get Well Card for Harry. Somewhere between her third and fourth years, she learned the Bat-bogey hex, striking fear into Fred and George. At least in the movie, she seemed to have little trouble conjuring a patronus.

17 posted on 07/11/2007 5:56:24 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Who are you and what have you done with Hermione Granger?")
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To: Dianna

Does Sirius specifically call Harry “James”, or is he calling to Harry’s father?


18 posted on 07/11/2007 5:57:51 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: Blue Eyes

“One question I have regarding the movies is whether JK Rowling has approved the scripts and the changes from the books.”

Here Ms. Rowling. Here’s the check, now you be on your way.


19 posted on 07/11/2007 6:01:07 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Xenalyte

He’s speaking to harry complimenting him.


20 posted on 07/11/2007 6:05:05 AM PDT by Williams
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