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Is this the world's oldest statue? [Anatolia, Gobekli Tepe]
The First Post ^ | November 24, 2006 | Sean Thomas

Posted on 11/26/2007 9:01:06 AM PST by SunkenCiv

The statue turned out to be part of a larger discovery: of a Neolithic temple. This and the statue have now been dated to 10,000BC, making the 'Snowman' possibly the oldest statue in the world. The veracity of this claim depends on semantics. What is a 'statue'? The Venus of Willendorf dates back to 20,000BC. But the Venus is just 11cm long: surely not a statue. So the Balikli Gol Snowman is the first sizeable sculpture of a man. Arguably, it is the oldest sculptural representation of humanity, the oldest self-portrait in stone. In the accepted sense of the word, that makes him the oldest known statue. You'd think the Balikli Gol statue would be famous. Yet it is scarcely known... One reason is the venom of local politics... But maybe the Snowman lacks friends for another reason: because he is such an unsettling presence. His lonely, obsidian eyes dominate the gallery where he stands; his wistful gaze speaks of a weird and agonising regret. After a few minutes with him, I make quickly for the exit; and when I reach the sunny street, I find I am sighing with relief.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: anatolia; balikligol; catalhoyuk; catalhuyuk; gobeklitepe; godsgravesglyphs; prehistory; sanliurfa; turkey
It is scarcely known. It stands in the tiny local museum, next to the fire extinguisher
Is this the worlds oldest statue?
Is this the worlds oldest statue?

1 posted on 11/26/2007 9:01:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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Did we plough up the Garden of Eden?
First Post | October 17, 2006
Posted on 10/17/2006 9:10:35 AM EDT by NYer
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2 posted on 11/26/2007 9:01:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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3 posted on 11/26/2007 9:03:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Fascinating. On a lighter note I think I have seen him before.


4 posted on 11/26/2007 9:04:28 AM PST by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: SunkenCiv

So THAT’S where Frosty came from!!


5 posted on 11/26/2007 9:06:57 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s a creepy-looking statue.


6 posted on 11/26/2007 9:07:20 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: SIDENET

Probably a cult statue. Fascinating the stuff that came and went thousands of years before anyone wrote it down...

Although...

The only ancient inscriptions which survive are on durable media, so...


7 posted on 11/26/2007 9:13:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I got a Mellaart title from the library (published in 1965) in order to scan a photo of this artifact. It's a plte, presumably used to serve or eat food, not too bad lookin', and in good condition for 7000 years old.
polychrome bowl, Baghdad museum number IM17837, status unknown
reprised from here
8 posted on 11/26/2007 9:14:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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2,700-Year-Old Fabric Found in Greece
PhysOrg.com | 05/09/2007 | Nicholas Paphitis
Posted on 05/11/2007 1:53:22 AM EDT by FreedomCalls
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Oldest Swords Found In Turkey (3,300BC)
Discovery Channel | 3-25-2003 | Rossella Lorenzi
Posted on 03/30/2003 7:37:06 PM EST by blam
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Humanity’s Greatest Calamity: An Ancient Flood Changed the Course of Civilization
Source: discovering archeology com
Published: 15 August 2001 Author: Brian Fagan
Posted on 08/31/2001 19:20:50 PDT by aculeus
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9 posted on 11/26/2007 9:18:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SolidWood; ZULU

;’)


10 posted on 11/26/2007 9:19:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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You’d think I’d notice that I’d misspelled a word before posting it again...

“plte” s/b “plate”


11 posted on 11/26/2007 9:21:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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‘Lump of rock’ turns out to be world’s first sculpture
By David Keys, Archaeology Correspondent
24 September 2000
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Middle_East/2000-09/sculpture240900.shtml
http://www.ngnews.com/news/2000/09/09252000/lumpofrock_3063.asp
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0009&L=language&P=197

(220,000 years old)


12 posted on 11/26/2007 9:34:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Berekhat Ram
Google

13 posted on 11/26/2007 9:34:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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speaking of art:
http://www.unc.edu/~haraszti/


14 posted on 11/26/2007 9:36:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Reminded me of the Pale Man from Pan's Labryinth.

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15 posted on 11/26/2007 9:36:22 AM PST by Sax
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To: SunkenCiv

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter’d visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp’d on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock’d them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away


16 posted on 11/26/2007 9:45:40 AM PST by Borges
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To: Sax

That was such a good flick.


17 posted on 11/26/2007 10:01:18 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Don't taze me, bro! [[NaNoWriMo WoCo: 56215/50K]])
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To: SunkenCiv
Venus Of Willendorf

Venus of Willendorf c. 24,000-22,000 BCE Oolitic limestone 43/8 inches (11.1 cm) high

18 posted on 11/26/2007 10:07:42 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

alas, a dead link.


19 posted on 11/26/2007 10:24:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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“Forbidden, You don’t have permission to access /willendorf/images/willendorfa.jpg on this server. Apache/2.0.48 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.48 OpenSSL/0.9.7e DAV/2 PHP/5.1.2 Server at witcombe.sbc.edu Port 80”


20 posted on 11/26/2007 10:24:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Borges

:’)


21 posted on 11/26/2007 10:25:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

My son paints leads ... for battle scenes, etc. He’s extremely good at it (38 years old and been at it since teen years). He builds the figures then paints them.


22 posted on 11/26/2007 10:37:29 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I remember seeing a lot of those in the 1970s, in college; lead miniatures of WWII-era tanks, ships, soldiers, and of course D&D stuff. :’)


23 posted on 11/26/2007 10:45:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Did we plough up the Garden of Eden?
First Post | October 17, 2006
Posted on 10/17/2006 9:10:35 AM EDT by NYer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1720793/posts

German Paper Reports World’s Oldest Temple Is In Sanliurfa
(Turkey- 10,000BC)
Turkish Daily News | 1-21-2006
Posted on 01/21/2006 1:34:38 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562301/posts


24 posted on 12/31/2007 9:16:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: SunkenCiv

Looks like a potato head to me; it’s obviously Irish.


25 posted on 11/11/2008 5:29:31 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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