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LSU to play for BCS title (not the best team on either side of the line)
WBRZ TV, Baton Rouge ^ | Dec 3, 2007 | Carl Dubois

Posted on 12/03/2007 11:06:43 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan

Les Miles didn’t need to go to Michigan for a chance to coach a team to victory against Ohio State, Michigan’s archrival. The LSU Tigers, to whom Miles reaffirmed his commitment over the weekend, will play Ohio State for the BCS national championship.

LSU (11-2) climbed five spots Sunday to No. 2 in the USA Today Top 25 Coaches’ Poll, enabling the Tigers to make the same jump in the BCS standings to set up a Jan. 7 date with the No. 1-ranked Buckeyes (11-1) in the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans.

“This is the most astonishing 36 or 48 or 72 hours I think I’ve ever seen in athletics,” said LSU Athletic Director Skip Bertman, who has 45 years in coaching and administration.

“Of course, it turned out to be magnificent for LSU. Not only did we get the coach, but we get the chance at the national championship in the same weekend, and of course, going in, we didn’t know either one of those things.”

Miles, a former Michigan player and assistant coach, walked away from a possible offer to coach at his alma mater when he announced Saturday he would stay at LSU.

A few hours later the Tigers defeated Tennessee 21-14 in the Southeastern Conference Championship Game, keeping slim hopes alive for a shot at a bigger prize.

When No. 2-ranked West Virginia lost 13-9 to huge underdog Pittsburgh and No. 1-ranked Missouri lost 38-17 to Oklahoma later that night, LSU’s long-shot possibility — described a week earlier by BCS experts — was no longer a desperate daydream.

LSU sports information director Michael Bonnette stayed up until 3 a.m. Sunday, e-mailing the 60 coaches who vote in the USA Today poll and as many Harris Interactive voters as possible. He set forth the case for LSU to be in the championship game. Miles made appearances on national TV after sunrise, doing the same.

By early Sunday afternoon, LSU was No. 2 in the USA Today poll. The Tigers, who did not receive a first-place vote in last week’s Top 25, received 11 this week.

LSU’s move ahead of Missouri and West Virginia, plus Georgia, Kansas and Virginia Tech, was a promising sign that the Tigers would be in the top two when the BCS standings were announced Sunday night.

“It was done at that point,” said Brad Edwards of ESPN, a BCS analyst who spelled out LSU’s long-shot hopes the previous weekend.

A jump from No. 5 to No. 2 in the Harris poll followed the larger jump by the Tigers in the USA Today poll Sunday. Those polls and an average of six BCS computer rankings are equal parts of the BCS formula.

“The only surprise to me was that LSU was such a comfortable No. 2 in both polls,” Edwards said. “I obviously expected them to be in that position, but I thought there would be a lot more support for all the different contenders out there.”

LSU finished No. 2 in the computers, trailing Virginia Tech. The Buckeyes moved from No. 3 in the BCS to No. 1 largely on the strength of a majority of first-place votes in the polls.

“I knew that LSU had the computer advantage on Oklahoma and USC,” Edwards said, citing schedule strength and quality victories as key components. “In my mind it was only a matter of whether a team like Virginia Tech might be able to be ranked ahead of LSU.” Edwards said when he saw LSU’s margin in the USA Today poll — and that Oklahoma, not Virginia Tech, was No. 3 in that poll — he knew the Tigers were a lock for No. 2 in the BCS standings.

Ohio State coach Jim Tressel voted his team No. 1 and LSU No. 2.

Miles voted LSU No. 1 and Ohio State No. 2.


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KEYWORDS: bcs; bowlgames; collegefootball; gagalert; lsu; ncaa; osu
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Three chances to be number One? Who ever heard of this sort of crap? First, neither LSU or Ohio State are the best teams in the country. I would venture that Oklahoma, USC or Georgia would smash either, particularly a weak LSU team that needed a desperation interception at the end of the game Saturday evening vs Tennessee to clinch that win. Then for the LSU coach to coin the dumbest damn phrase ever heard in sports, "We are undefeated in regulation" really takes the cake.

The BCS is pure junk and has to go. If the other divisions in college footbball can have a playoff, Div 1 can also. Get rid of this crap.

1 posted on 12/03/2007 11:06:46 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan
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To: Bulldawg Fan

UGA was screwed ... but who didn’t see it coming?


2 posted on 12/03/2007 11:09:14 AM PST by SittinYonder (Ic t gehate, t ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furor gan)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
I think USC is still the most talented team, and on a good day they would crush anybody else in the country. Problem is, they had those two bad days... ;)
3 posted on 12/03/2007 11:10:45 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

“..Georgia would smash either..”

I am not a U of Georgia alumnus but I fully agree with you.


4 posted on 12/03/2007 11:11:35 AM PST by 353FMG (Hillary - Al Qaeda's Dream Woman)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Three chances to be number One? Who ever heard of this sort of crap?
No one, how many times have this many top teams had two losses?


5 posted on 12/03/2007 11:13:22 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Bulldawg Fan

The whole point of these bowl games derails the universities. The country and the school forget their prime reason for existence is academic education - not entertainment/sports/games, etc. The push for state champions at high school level and national champion at college level have distorted the education process and pushed it into the background.

Lots of parents sacrifice their kids on the altar of performance in the sports arena, to their shame.

Sports are a religious experience for many, a “new drug” for others. Too much.


6 posted on 12/03/2007 11:15:23 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

It’s the BS title.


7 posted on 12/03/2007 11:16:25 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Their starting QB was injured for those two games. That said, they don’t play smart and they lack discipline as a team. A fairly common theme for Pete Carrol teams.


8 posted on 12/03/2007 11:17:24 AM PST by misterrob (Eleven down, Eight more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: SF Republican

Because this year had too many teams getting knocked off who were in the #1 or #2 spot. Never seen it before on this scale.


9 posted on 12/03/2007 11:18:42 AM PST by misterrob (Eleven down, Eight more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

What exactly is a “desperation interception”?


10 posted on 12/03/2007 11:19:27 AM PST by half-cajun
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To: Bulldawg Fan
"We are undefeated in regulation" really takes the cake.

This is from the same coach that kept referring toArkansas as Ar-Kansas.

11 posted on 12/03/2007 11:19:41 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

USC is not the best team in the nation.

Big 12 I could buy. Who did Georgia lose to?


12 posted on 12/03/2007 11:20:34 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Virginia Tech also has a good argument to have gotten into the championship game... JMHO.


13 posted on 12/03/2007 11:21:05 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: SittinYonder

UGA needs to win their division first before whinning.


14 posted on 12/03/2007 11:21:50 AM PST by fraggledydude
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Tell us how you really feel. Geaux tigers!


15 posted on 12/03/2007 11:21:54 AM PST by katieanna
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To: xzins

Tennessee, by a bunch. They also lost to South Carolina, which at the time didn’t seem too bad. In hindsight, that was a really bad loss.


16 posted on 12/03/2007 11:23:28 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I think USC is still the most talented team, and on a good day they would crush anybody else in the country. Problem is, they had those two bad days... ;)

Not coincidentally those two bad days happened when their injury list was brutal. Now that they're healthy again they're back to the top-tier.

I'd like to see GA vs. HA. ....not in the Sugar Bowl, in the championship game.

Maybe one day NCAAF will have a system where teams actually have to win games to make it to the championship game rather that rely on a computer program and the votes of AP hack writers. ....you know, a playoff system -- like every other major sport, college or pro. Voting and judging is for freaking figure skating, not football.

17 posted on 12/03/2007 11:23:55 AM PST by Mr. Mojo (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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To: Bulldawg Fan

GA couldn’t even get into the SEC championship game, lost to TN [lost 35-14] and SC, and narrowly beat Vanderbilt and Alabama. LSU deserved to be picked ahead of GA since it did win the SEC title and beat TN.


18 posted on 12/03/2007 11:24:34 AM PST by kabar
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To: Bulldawg Fan

You can’t argue that Georgia was screwed. If you can’t win your conference’s division title, much less the conference, you have no business playing for the national title. Georgia shouldn’t even be in a BCS bowl, much less the title game.

The only teams with any business playing for the championship are Ohio State, Oklahoma and, yes, LSU.

You can talk about Ohio State’s non-conference schedule all you want, but since none of the four have non-conference losses it loses some relevance. Good wins against Michigan and Wisconsin, with a respectable loss to a tough Illinois team. Good wins and a respectable loss, but not dazzling enough to be a clear #1.

LSU, Oklahoma and USC have two losses. USC’s two losses were inexcusable. LSU and Oklahoma both play in tougher conferences, but LSU’s two losses were triple-overtime squeakers, one on the road at Kentucky and one in a rivalry game against a Heisman-quality star. Oklahoma’s Texas Tech loss isn’t bad, but the Colorado loss is.

I’d go with LSU and Oklahoma instead of Ohio State, but OSU isn’t a bad choice. There’s parity in college football now, so the #1 and #2 aren’t clear-cut anymore.


19 posted on 12/03/2007 11:25:05 AM PST by VirginiaConstitutionalist (Scary thought: Half of all people are dumber than the average person.)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

Except that LSU killed them.


20 posted on 12/03/2007 11:25:31 AM PST by kabar
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To: Bulldawg Fan
In my humble opinion ......

The best teams right now (in no particular order) are Okahoma, LSU, USC, and Ohio State.

Only two can go to the championship game. I believe the BCS has got it right as LSU and Ohio State were both ranked # 1 for several weeks throughout this season of ups and downs.

Oh yeah,

GO BUCKEYES !!

__________________________________________

21 posted on 12/03/2007 11:25:56 AM PST by Tuba Guy (Vince Foster says: "-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-")
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...
The FR College Football Ping List
FReepmail GOP_Raider to be on or off this list

22 posted on 12/03/2007 11:26:00 AM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: SittinYonder
I'm a Georgia fan, but I can honestly say they didn't deserve to play for a national championship. Heck -- they didn't even qualify to play in their own conference championship game!

If they hadn't lost to a South Carolina team that finished 6-6 this year they would have deserved a spot in the title game.

23 posted on 12/03/2007 11:26:45 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: half-cajun

Its a play that saves the game, ranking, and third chance at number 1.


24 posted on 12/03/2007 11:27:04 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Does anyone else see a left over Katrina effect in this stuff?


25 posted on 12/03/2007 11:28:12 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Let us not forget mighty Hawaii and it’s 12-0 season.


26 posted on 12/03/2007 11:28:20 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: kabar

Does a “narrow win” count as a win or a loss?


27 posted on 12/03/2007 11:28:32 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Virginia Tech also has a good argument to have gotten into the championship game... JMHO.

Except they lost to LSU -- by a landslide.

28 posted on 12/03/2007 11:28:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Alberta's Child

You sould like an avid Georgia fan..........


29 posted on 12/03/2007 11:30:13 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

GO TIGERS!!!


30 posted on 12/03/2007 11:30:20 AM PST by trillabodilla (Jesus Saves)
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To: Alberta's Child

sould = sound


31 posted on 12/03/2007 11:30:50 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

“Does a “narrow win” count as a win or a loss?”

Well does a “desperation interception” still count as an interception. Just wondering.


32 posted on 12/03/2007 11:31:14 AM PST by half-cajun
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To: SittinYonder

How do you figure they got screwed? They didn’t even win their conference. Maybe if they had not gotten their butts handed to them by U-Tenn or lost to South Carolina then they would have had a chance to take on LSU.


33 posted on 12/03/2007 11:31:52 AM PST by misterrob (Eleven down, Eight more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
I suspect most everyone whose team didn't make it thinks the BCS is junk. You should hear the Mizzou fans around here.

Since I'm an Ohio State fan, I think it worked out pretty well. ;)

34 posted on 12/03/2007 11:31:58 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I think USC is still the most talented team, and on a good day they would crush anybody else in the country. Problem is, they had those two bad days... ;)

Sad what an injured quarteback can do to you. But then the second string did good until he met the Ducks, (before Dixons season ending injury), even then it was close.

35 posted on 12/03/2007 11:32:32 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Does a “narrow win” count as a win or a loss?

In the eyes of the computer or the eyes of the voter? If it's a voter, a narrow win might not be much better than a loss, especially if you're trying to compare two teams. If Team A beats Team C by 40 points and Team B beats Team C by 2 points, doesn't Team A look like a better team than Team B?

This "a win is a win" stuff doesn't fly in college football, for better or for worse.

36 posted on 12/03/2007 11:32:36 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
The country and the school forget their prime reason for existence is academic education - not entertainment/sports/games, etc.

No, no, their prime reason for existence is to churn out as many indoctrinated liberals as possible. Never lose sight of that.

37 posted on 12/03/2007 11:32:58 AM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Football brings a huge amount of money to these universities, creating many scholarships and funds for programs they wouldn't have.

Plus, it gives many young men a chance to go to school they otherwise wouldn't have.

This is capitalism at work, and working well, your argument that it detracts from academics just doesn't hold up.

As far as the Bull Crap System is concerned, it is obviously a failure; we need an 8 or 16 team playoff system.

38 posted on 12/03/2007 11:33:06 AM PST by Greystoke
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To: trillabodilla

“GO TIGERS!!!”

Did you mean geaux? Hey fightin Tigers!


39 posted on 12/03/2007 11:33:06 AM PST by katieanna
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To: fraggledydude
1. Win division

2. Win conference championship game

Until and unless you accomplish the above, please shut up and go away.

p.s. Is there anyone whinier than an SEC fan?

Go Hawaii!!

40 posted on 12/03/2007 11:33:38 AM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: Don Corleone

No.


41 posted on 12/03/2007 11:33:47 AM PST by misterrob (Eleven down, Eight more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Hawaii is undefeated. I think they should have gotten a shot.


42 posted on 12/03/2007 11:33:58 AM PST by sappy
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To: Alberta's Child

And BC.


43 posted on 12/03/2007 11:34:27 AM PST by misterrob (Eleven down, Eight more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
I really miss the days when a college football game could end in a tie.
44 posted on 12/03/2007 11:35:08 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
USC’s two losses were inexcusable.

Granted the coaches should have pulled the injured Booty againts Stanford. But a close game against a 5th ranked team with your second string Quarterback? How is that inexcusable?

45 posted on 12/03/2007 11:35:24 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Publius Valerius; Bulldawg Fan

Losing to Tennessee & S. Carolina does not make Georgia a contender.


46 posted on 12/03/2007 11:35:32 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

“The BCS is pure junk and has to go. If the other divisions in college footbball can have a playoff, Div 1 can also. Get rid of this crap.”

Georgia got screwed.
Kansas got screwed.
It’s all about money. LSU in a title game in Louisiana? Think that will draw? There will be no playoff in Div IA, or whatever they call it now. The reason is simple, you posted this, you’re interested, and irritated. What the NCAA wants more than anything is money. Interested fans = money.

Now let us begin 40 days of hearing how great LSU and the SEC is, and how Ohio State doesn’t deserve to be in any bowl game let alone the NC. The underdog has won 7 of 9 BCS NC games.


47 posted on 12/03/2007 11:35:57 AM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: Lazarus Longer
Voting and judging is for freaking figure skating, not football.

Snark, good one!

48 posted on 12/03/2007 11:35:57 AM PST by Greystoke
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To: HIDEK6

Ugh. Make them keep slugging until there’s one standing.


49 posted on 12/03/2007 11:36:12 AM PST by misterrob (Eleven down, Eight more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Yawn. I’ll be paying more attention to the REAL NCAA football champs...the Football Championship Subdivision. Sixteen teams, four weekends, a real PLAYOFF, none of this beauty-contest bullcrap.

And don’t look now, but Appalachian State’s still in it, and gunning for a threepeat after knocking off my JMU boys. Those guys are scary good.

}:-)4


50 posted on 12/03/2007 11:36:48 AM PST by Moose4 (Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
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