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Animals Torn To Pieces By Lions In Front Of Baying Crowds...
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | January 5, 2008 | By Danny Penman

Posted on 01/05/2008 1:15:56 PM PST by JACKRUSSELL

The smiling children giggled as they patted the young goat on its head and tickled it behind the ears.

Some of the more boisterous ones tried to clamber onto the animal's back but were soon shaken off with a quick wiggle of its bottom.

It could have been a happy scene from a family zoo anywhere in the world but for what happened next.

A man hoisted up the goat and nonchalantly threw it over a wall into a pit full of hungry lions. The poor goat tried to run for its life, but it didn't stand a chance. The lions quickly surrounded it and started tearing at its flesh.

"Oohs" and "aahs" filled the air as the children watched the goat being ripped limb from limb. Some started to clap silently with a look of wonder in their eyes.

The scenes witnessed at Badaltearing Safari Park in China are rapidly becoming a normal day out for many Chinese families.

Baying crowds now gather in zoos across the country to watch animals being torn to pieces by lions and tigers.

Just an hour's drive from the main Olympic attractions in Beijing, Badaling is in many ways a typical Chinese zoo.

Next to the main slaughter arena is a restaurant where families can dine on braised dog while watching cows and goats being disembowelled by lions.

The zoo also encourages visitors to "fish" for lions using live chickens as bait. For just £2, giggling visitors tie terrified chickens onto bamboo rods and dangle them in front of the lions, just as a cat owner might tease their pet with a toy.

During one visit, a woman managed to taunt the big cats with a petrified chicken for five minutes before a lion managed to grab the bird in its jaws.

The crowd then applauded as the bird flapped its wings pathetically in a futile bid to escape. The lion eventually grew bored and crushed the terrified creature to death.

The tourists were then herded onto buses and driven through the lions' compound to watch an equally cruel spectacle. The buses have specially designed chutes down which you can push live chickens and watch as they are torn to shreds.

Once again, children are encouraged to take part in the slaughter.

"It's almost a form of child abuse," says Carol McKenna of the OneVoice animal welfare group. "The cruelty of Chinese zoos is disgusting, but think of the impact on the children watching it. What kind of future is there for China if its children think this kind of cruelty is normal?

"In China, if you love animals you want to kill yourself every day out of despair."

But the cruelty of Badaling doesn't stop with animals apart. For those who can still stomach it, the zoo has numerous traumatised animals to gawp at.

A pair of endangered moon bears with rusting steel nose rings are chained up in cages so small that they cannot even turn around.

One has clearly gone mad and spends most of its time shaking its head and bashing into the walls of its prison.

There are numerous other creatures, including tigers, which also appear to have been driven insane by captivity. Predictably, they are kept in cramped, filthy conditions.

!Zoos like this make me want to boycott everything Chinese," says Emma Milne, star of the BBC's Vets In Practice.

"I'd like to rip out everything in my house that's made in China. I have big problems with their culture.

"If you enjoy watching an animal die then that's a sad and disgusting reflection on you.

"Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised by their behaviour towards animals, as the value of human life is so low in China."

East of Badaling lies the equally horrific Qingdao zoo. Here, visitors can take part in China's latest craze — tortoise baiting.

Simply put, Chinese families now gather in zoos to hurl coins at tortoises.

Legend has it that if you hit a tortoise on the head with a coin and make a wish, then your heart's desire will come true. It's the Chinese equivalent of a village wishing well.

To feed this craze, tortoises are kept in barbaric conditions inside small bare rooms.

When giggling tourists begin hurling coins at them, they desperately try to protect themselves by withdrawing into their shells.

But Chinese zoo keepers have discovered a way round this: they wrap elastic bands around the animals' necks to stop them retracting their heads.

"Tortoises aren't exactly fleet of foot and can't run away," says Carol McKenna.

"It's monstrous that people hurl coins at the tortoises, but strapping their heads down with elastic bands so they can't hide is even more disgusting.

"Because tortoises can't scream, people assume they don't suffer. But they do. I can't bear to think what it must be like to live in a tiny cell and have people hurl coins at you all day long."

Even worse is in store for the animals of Xiongsen Bear and Tiger Mountain Village near Guilin in south-east China.

Here, live cows are fed to tigers to amuse cheering crowds. During a recent visit, I watched in horror as a young cow was stalked and caught. Its screams and cries filled the air as it struggled to escape.

A wild tiger would dispatch its prey within moments, but these beasts' natural killing skills have been blunted by years of living in tiny cages.

The tiger tried to kill — tearing and biting at the cow's body in a pathetic looking frenzy — but it simply didn't know how.

Eventually, the keepers broke up the contest and slaughtered the cow themselves, much to the disappointment of the crowd.

Although the live killing exhibition was undoubtedly depressing, an equally disturbing sight lay around the corner: the "animal parade".

Judging by the rest of the operation, the unseen training methods are unlikely to be humane, but what visitors view is bad enough.

Tigers, bears and monkeys perform in a degrading "entertainment". Bears wear dresses, balance on balls and not only ride bicycles but mount horses too.

The showpiece is a bear riding a bike on a high wire above a parade of tigers, monkeys and trumpet-playing bears.

Astonishingly, the zoo also sells tiger meat and wine produced from big cats kept in battery-style cages.

Tiger meat is eaten widely in China and the wine, made from the crushed bones of the animals, is a popular drink.

Although it is illegal, the zoo is quite open about its activities. In fact, it boasts of having 140 dead tigers in freezers ready for the plate.

In the restaurant, visitors can dine on strips of stir-fried tiger with ginger and Chinese vegetables. Also on the menu are tiger soup and a spicy red curry made with tenderised strips of big cat.

And if all that isn't enough, you can dine on lion steaks, bear's paw, crocodile and several different species of snake.

"Discerning" visitors can wash it all down with a glass or two of vintage wine made from the bones of Siberian tigers.

The wine is made from the 1,300 or so tigers reared on the premises. The restaurant is a favourite with Chinese Communist Party officials who often pop down from Beijing for the weekend.

China's zoos claim to be centres for education and conservation. Without them, they say, many species would become extinct.

This is clearly a fig leaf and some would call it a simple lie. Many are no better than "freak shows" from the middle ages and some are no different to the bloody tournaments of ancient Rome.

"It's farcical to claim that these zoos are educational," says Emma Milne. "How can you learn anything about wild animals by watching them pace up and down inside a cage? You could learn far more from a David Attenborough documentary."

However pitiful the conditions might be in China's zoos, there are a few glimmers of hope.

It is now becoming fashionable to own pets in China. The hope is that a love for pets will translate into a desire to help animals in general. This does appear to be happening, albeit slowly.

One recent MORI opinion poll discovered that 90 per cent of Chinese people thought they had "a moral duty to minimise animal suffering". Around 75 per cent felt that the law should be changed to minimise animal suffering as much as possible.

In 2004, Beijing proposed animal welfare legislation which stipulated that "no one should harass, mistreat or hurt animals". It would also have banned animal fights and live feeding shows.

The laws would have been a huge step forward. But the proposals were scrapped following stiff opposition from vested interests and those who felt China had more pressing concerns.

And this is the central problem for animal welfare in China: its ruling elite is brutally repressive and cares little for animals.

Centuries of rule by tyrannical emperors and bloody dictators have all but eradicated the Buddhist and Confucian respect for life and nature. As a result, welfare groups are urging people not to go to Chinese zoos if they should visit the Olympics, as virtually every single one inflicts terrible suffering on its animals

"They should tell the Chinese Embassy why they are refusing to visit these zoos,' says Carol McKenna of OneVoice.

"If a nation is great enough to host the Olympic Games then it is great enough to be able to protect its animals."


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KEYWORDS: china; chinazoo; lions
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To: max americana

All good things come from a Judeo/Christian culture - that culture that America is outlawing little by little.


51 posted on 01/05/2008 3:27:36 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take you pick.)
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To: Huntress
And your point is . . .?

Obvious. What was your point?

52 posted on 01/05/2008 3:29:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: donna

All good things come from a Judeo/Christian culture - that culture that America is outlawing little by little.......................................
You realy don’t want to go there now do you!


53 posted on 01/05/2008 3:31:21 PM PST by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: eastforker

It you have a better culture to recommend, do it.


54 posted on 01/05/2008 3:39:44 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take you pick.)
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To: digger48
Partial birth abortion is American approved cruelty. We in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

“90 per cent of Chinese people thought they had “a moral duty to minimize animal suffering”.

If the Chinese had the power perhaps they would change these cruel practices. We have the power and we don’t.

55 posted on 01/05/2008 3:44:51 PM PST by Varda
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To: donna

You said all good things come from a judeo/ christian culture. May I remind you slavery came from that culture, so did killing native americans with WMD, namely polio infested blankets. Not that it was a bad or good thing, just that that is the way it is. I could go into greater depth, but, you really might not want to know.


56 posted on 01/05/2008 3:47:22 PM PST by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: JACKRUSSELL
Imagine that, showing animals eating as they do in the wild.

Does everyone on this thread think hamburger comes from soybeans?

57 posted on 01/05/2008 3:50:27 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: Huntress; TigersEye

Huh? You really don’t know? Honest-to-God don’t know?


58 posted on 01/05/2008 3:52:28 PM PST by yorkie
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To: Huntress; digger48

I really love how we are so great at criticizing others but when somebody reminds us to look in the mirror, we sure do get all flustered and rude mighty quick.

Huntress, you may think it is darn convienient for women who can’t practice birth control that we allow abortions but remember it is murder in some people eyes.


59 posted on 01/05/2008 3:56:59 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: cripplecreek

I had NO idea there were so many lions in CHINA!!


60 posted on 01/05/2008 3:59:09 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: B4Ranch; Huntress; digger48

remember it is murder in some people eyes.


NO doubt B4Ranch!

Abortion is a hideous form of mutilation and murder no doubt about it. It is appropriate to bring this up here or anywhere any time.


61 posted on 01/05/2008 3:59:49 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Chasaway

I know where you are coming from...but animals should not be treated as less than animals, either.

Freegards


62 posted on 01/05/2008 4:08:35 PM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: eastforker

So, which culture do you chose instead?


63 posted on 01/05/2008 4:17:42 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take you pick.)
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To: Huntress; digger48; eleni121

Click on this link and tell me if these pictures are more horrifying than the ones at the beginning of the thread.

http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html


64 posted on 01/05/2008 4:18:47 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: donna
Don’t change the subject. The animal kingdom is cruel yet natural, man is part of that kingdom and on top of the food chain. Feeding live chickens and goats to lions is no different than feeding a live rat to a snake, or an insect to a spider.
65 posted on 01/05/2008 4:24:06 PM PST by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: Varda
If the Chinese had the power perhaps they would change these cruel practices. We have the power and we don’t.

That is a very good point, Varda. It is also a rather tenuous thing to pigeonhole the people in a nation of over 500 million that springs from as many individual nations/cultures as Europe has. Or judge the way they act after living under a century of tyranny. It didn't take long to turn the good Judeo/Christian people of Germany into monsters and it was done without threatening them.

66 posted on 01/05/2008 4:27:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: Ransomed
but animals should not be treated as less than animals, either

Which ones were?

67 posted on 01/05/2008 4:28:13 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: B4Ranch

Always good to be reminded that we cannot point fingers at others if we allow worse ourselves.


68 posted on 01/05/2008 4:28:50 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: TigersEye

What you said, true to the core, but I am tired of arguing with the ignorant.


69 posted on 01/05/2008 4:32:21 PM PST by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: eastforker
Feeding live chickens and goats to lions is no different than feeding a live rat to a snake, or an insect to a spider.

Actually it is different. Snakes and spiders won't eat dead things usually. Lions will eat meat from humanely killed animals. Humans have the capacity to choose how they participate in life. Feeding animals is a kindness. Entertaining yourself by watching live animals ripped apart has no kindness in it that I can see.

70 posted on 01/05/2008 4:33:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: Zhang Fei
Thanks for posting the pics. I have never seen dozens of lions in one place before. I should have gone to this zoo the last time I was in Peking just for that. I’ll have to go there the next time I visit - probably decades from now.

If you happen to visit Japan and are in the Tokyo area, you can also see a number of lions in an open area like this at the Tama Zoo (there's even a bus to take you out among them.)

71 posted on 01/05/2008 4:34:24 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: eastforker

I appreciate that. You can argue with me now if you like. ;^)


72 posted on 01/05/2008 4:34:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: TigersEye

Take my earlier post about fishing and minnows. No, I do not relish in or about the minnows death but I sure as hell brag about the fish that it caught. The end result is the same and I am not gonna cry about the minnow or the fish it caught, I am, however, gonna feast on the beast and invite anyone that wants to join me.


73 posted on 01/05/2008 4:40:25 PM PST by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Ever hear the expression “I wouldn’t do that to a dog”? Animals should be treated like animals, not like people or like less than animals.

Freegards


74 posted on 01/05/2008 4:41:21 PM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: JACKRUSSELL
I realize that when lions feed, something had died. It's a part of life. However, in the wild, when a pride of lions bring down prey, the prey is usually dead before the pride starts feeding. It makes sense, simply because it's inconvenient for the animals to be thrashing around while it's being devoured - which is why big cats go for the throat. On the other hand, from the description, you've got a bunch of hungry lions who simply rip the creatures to pieces. It seems to me that this is something that the Chinese government wants to allow, partly to reduce the humanity of the population, and inure them to this sort of senseless violence.

Mark

75 posted on 01/05/2008 4:43:02 PM PST by MarkL
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To: eastforker; TigersEye
but I sure as hell brag about the fish that it caught

As well you should!

I think far too many people are ignorant these days to the realities of nature. This goes on daily in the wild and yes, animals do play with their food. That's how they teach the young ones to catch it!

76 posted on 01/05/2008 4:44:02 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: Ransomed

Why did you dodge my question?


77 posted on 01/05/2008 4:47:12 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: digger48

Very sobering post. We have no right to protest when we ourselves practice such a barbaric act as partial birth abortion and have killed more than 45 million babies.


78 posted on 01/05/2008 4:47:16 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: eastforker

Then you should go to the zoo in San Diego and throw a goat, LOL.


79 posted on 01/05/2008 4:52:05 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take you pick.)
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To: cripplecreek

Or the ‘Circle of life.’


80 posted on 01/05/2008 4:52:46 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: eastforker
I appreciate those points. I have spent hundreds of hours fishing and quite a few hunting.

It may seem like I'm making too fine a point of it but I see a big difference between hunting, fishing and even butchering domestic livestock than what they are doing in this zoo. What you do to catch fish is necessary to catch the fish. I won't fault you for enjoying the process. What they are doing in the zoo is unnecessary to the end of feeding the lions. The only purpose for the methods used is to entertain the visitors.

FWIW I wouldn't even call for outlawing it. Let their society decide if it's appropriate or not. The best I can say about it is they are not killing solely for the sake of killing. But it's close.

81 posted on 01/05/2008 4:55:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Lions killing animals. What’s the big deal. See that on those TV nature shows all the time.


82 posted on 01/05/2008 4:55:19 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Balding_Eagle

Sigh. You got me. All these animals are being treated like animals should be. I musta missed my turtle head coin toss.

Freegards


83 posted on 01/05/2008 4:55:40 PM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: SouthTexas

I am a long way from ignorant of the realities of life and nature. But you are ignoring the fact that these lions are not in the wild and humans are making all the choices as to how they are fed.


84 posted on 01/05/2008 4:57:58 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: digger48

Off-topic. Next.


85 posted on 01/05/2008 4:58:26 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Ransomed

That was my point.........that you can’t find an example.


86 posted on 01/05/2008 5:02:55 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: TigersEye
No I'm not ignoring that fact. The lions would probably prefer antelope anyway.

If any of this really bothered me, which it doesn't, it would be that they tease the lions with the chickens.

87 posted on 01/05/2008 5:02:58 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: SouthTexas

You did and still are ignoring that fact. Sorry, that’s just the truth of it.


88 posted on 01/05/2008 5:04:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

SAVAGES.

These are the SAVAGES whom we are making wealthy with OUR export dollars. the SAVAGES Globalist corporate executives in America are making rich by off shoring of American jobs, the SAVAGES who are stealing our military technology through criminal technological deals with rogue American corporations whose bottom line is the buck, the SAVAGES who are using our dollars to expand their military machine in a way unseen since NAZI Germany and Imperialist Japan.


89 posted on 01/05/2008 5:06:37 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: TigersEye

This is no different from what is shown on Discovery or National Geographic every day. The fact that carnivores actually kill their food is not a lesson the young should miss.


90 posted on 01/05/2008 5:07:28 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: SouthTexas

Do any of you “nay-sayers” on this thread understand the real sick problem here?

THEY’RE USING THIS AS LIVE (IN-PERSON!) ENTERTAINMENT EVEN FOR CHILDREN.

As poster “Mark” indicated, they’re basically sucking the humanity out of people, starting with children who will think it’s funny somehow that innocent life just gets torn to pieces.


91 posted on 01/05/2008 5:09:20 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I don’t think that dangling chickens for jollies, or throwing coins at turtle heads is treating animals correctly.

Freegards


92 posted on 01/05/2008 5:10:40 PM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: P.O.E.

??????????????????????

Are you SERIOUS???????


93 posted on 01/05/2008 5:12:01 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: digger48

The one has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other.

Get a reality check.


94 posted on 01/05/2008 5:12:57 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: eastforker

No, you just are out of touch with reality.

There is no connection and this isn’t a joking matter.


95 posted on 01/05/2008 5:14:29 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: eastforker

Man id discernible form the rest of the animal kingdom in that he was created in the image of God, with a human spirit. His purpose is involved in the angelic conflict, which is something the rest of the animal kingdom has no part.

Every man will either be raised to heaven, face to face with the Lord, or shall undergo the Great White Throne Judgment, which is never a destiny for the remainder of the animal kingdom.

Man has the natural man, but all we are required to sacrifice is the natural man through faith in Christ for eternal life.


96 posted on 01/05/2008 5:17:24 PM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I don't see it that way in the slightest.

Guess those of us that still kill and eat our food have lost our humanity. So be it.

97 posted on 01/05/2008 5:19:27 PM PST by SouthTexas (Happy New Year!)
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To: SouthTexas
This is no different from what is shown on Discovery or National Geographic every day.

That is completely false on the face of it. Animals in the wild fend for themselves and humans had no choice in that. Animals in captivity are entirely under the control of humans who make every choice for them.

The fact that carnivores actually kill their food is not a lesson the young should miss.

Animals in captivity have no need to do that and they are in no way doing that in this circumstance. Even if there were young in this pen of lions (and none appear in the photos) there is no hunting going on there and no pride heirarchy exists there for any teaching to go on.

98 posted on 01/05/2008 5:23:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I wonder what Carol McKenna has to say about THAT?!?


Some animals are more equal then others...


99 posted on 01/05/2008 5:24:15 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: SouthTexas
Guess those of us that still kill and eat our food have lost our humanity. So be it.

That is a very nice emotional strawman but I don't think anyone is making that extrapolation.

100 posted on 01/05/2008 5:28:30 PM PST by TigersEye (Having found no cause for offense no object of forgiveness exists. Love is its own reason for sorrow)
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