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Mars atmosphere - 95% Carbon
Encyclopedia of Science ^ | 2006 | Encyclopedia of Science

Posted on 03/08/2008 12:09:05 PM PST by Exton1

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To: kinoxi

The failed sun being Jupiter.


41 posted on 03/08/2008 4:36:01 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

Let’s start over.

Mars has a greater mass, gravitational acceleration and escape velocity than Titan. Titan retains a thick atmosphere but Mars does not.

Thus, Mars should have a greater ability than Titan to retain an atmosphere. Obviously, Mars does not have a thick atmosphere, but the reason does not seem to be insufficient gravity, your original point.

How does Saturn as a “failed star” aid Titan in retaining an atmosphere?


42 posted on 03/08/2008 4:45:43 PM PST by KamperKen
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To: KamperKen

Titan expels a greater mass. Check your facts.


43 posted on 03/08/2008 4:48:12 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: KamperKen

Jupiter is the failed star in our system theoretically.


44 posted on 03/08/2008 4:50:25 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi
Mars has no atmosphere. It boils away because there is not enough gravity to hold it in place.

Mars could have a much heavier atmosphere. The gravity is sufficient to hold an atmosphere a person could walk around in with no more than an oxygen mask.

45 posted on 03/08/2008 4:50:47 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale
Temporarily yes. Terra forming is...
46 posted on 03/08/2008 4:54:01 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

Not for long. The solar winds blow away any atmosphere due to a lack of a magnetosphere.


47 posted on 03/08/2008 4:55:44 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Yup.


48 posted on 03/08/2008 4:56:58 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

Mars should have more atmosphere right now. When the first modern measurements were made it was surprising there was so little atmosphere. But, considering some of the atmospheric constituents are frozen out at the poles, if the planet is warmed up that should help build it up to where it should be for our uses.


49 posted on 03/08/2008 4:57:21 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Straight Vermonter

If they can get some dipole molecules such as water vapor circulating they can have a magnetosphere, maybe not as strong as earth’s since circulation won’t be as strong, but some anyway.


50 posted on 03/08/2008 4:59:21 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale

I personally believe that it can be made useful. I don’t know if that answers your question.


51 posted on 03/08/2008 5:00:59 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

I don’t have any question except whether it will be a business opportunity anytime soon. It appears not except for contracts with NASA and other space agencies.


52 posted on 03/08/2008 5:02:45 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale

Your lens is clouded IMO.


53 posted on 03/08/2008 5:04:49 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

Right. OTOH I have an actual business plan.


54 posted on 03/08/2008 5:10:38 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale
So it all works out in the end I guess...
:)
55 posted on 03/08/2008 5:12:16 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

The only impediment is not on Mars but in the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty. Repeal it and we’re ready to get this thing going.


56 posted on 03/08/2008 5:14:14 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: RightWhale

Good angle. Worthy of thought.


57 posted on 03/08/2008 5:16:52 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

Jupiter is far from a failed sun. It would need at least 80 times it’s mass to obtain fusion at the level of a minimal red dwarf.


58 posted on 03/08/2008 5:44:49 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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It is mostly hydrogen. It is a failed sun. What books are you reading?


59 posted on 03/08/2008 5:50:47 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Exton1

Radiated power varies as the sqauare of the distance. No valid comparison here.


60 posted on 03/08/2008 6:02:19 PM PST by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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