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Home gardening offers ways to trim grocery costs [Survival Today, an on going thread]
Dallas News.com ^ | March 14th, 2008 | DEAN FOSDICK

Posted on 03/23/2008 11:36:40 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

Americans finding soaring food prices hard to stomach can battle back by growing their own food. [Click image for a larger version] Dean Fosdick Dean Fosdick

Home vegetable gardens appear to be booming as a result of the twin movements to eat local and pinch pennies.

At the Southeastern Flower Show in Atlanta this winter, D. Landreth Seed Co. of New Freedom, Pa., sold three to four times more seed packets than last year, says Barb Melera, president. "This is the first time I've ever heard people say, 'I can grow this more cheaply than I can buy it in the supermarket.' That's a 180-degree turn from the norm."

Roger Doiron, a gardener and fresh-food advocate from Scarborough, Maine, said he turned $85 worth of seeds into more than six months of vegetables for his family of five.

A year later, he says, the family still had "several quarts of tomato sauce, bags of mixed vegetables and ice-cube trays of pesto in the freezer; 20 heads of garlic, a five-gallon crock of sauerkraut, more homegrown hot-pepper sauce than one family could comfortably eat in a year and three sorts of squash, which we make into soups, stews and bread."

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She compares the current period of market uncertainty with that of the early- to mid-20th century when the concept of victory gardens became popular.

"A lot of companies during the world wars and the Great Depression era encouraged vegetable gardening as a way of addressing layoffs, reduced wages and such," she says. "Some companies, like U.S. Steel, made gardens available at the workplace. Railroads provided easements they'd rent to employees and others for gardening."

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To: djf

I have been using the same cast iron skillet for over thirty years. It’s seasoned to the point it’s better than teflon.

(And no dubious chemicals soaking into the food that way, which is what I hear happens when you cook on teflon.)

Anyone can buy cast iron skillets and dutch ovens at Wal-Mart, they carry the Lodge brand, which is made in the USA.


201 posted on 03/24/2008 8:30:08 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: processing please hold
Nothing can be overlooked no matter how small it may appear to some.

How right you are. Sometimes we take certain things so much for granted we never think to mention them to others who may have a different mindset. What "comes naturally" to an urbanite may not dawn on someone in a rural area and vice versa.

202 posted on 03/24/2008 8:30:45 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

Hunker down, act desperate. Don’t be out on the porch grilling tbones. (well, except the first couple days, as the freezer gives out).

If you have a generator, the golden rule is never let it run unattended. Attended by somebody well armed.

These days, alot of people spend alot of time trying to get noticed and be different. That would be an idea of the past. Anything that makes you conspicuous will probably get you killed.


203 posted on 03/24/2008 8:32:24 AM PDT by djf
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To: processing please hold

I also highly recommend soap. You can buy like a cubic foot of soap at Costco for ten bux.

Nobody knows how to make soap anymore. Well, darn few.


205 posted on 03/24/2008 8:34:48 AM PDT by djf
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To: processing please hold

Thank you, that will be a useful check list to have.

The foods today, are in the warehouse for too long, my brother works in one, he says some pallets of food sit there for years, before going to the store.


206 posted on 03/24/2008 8:35:36 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. ... . Mark Twain)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
I mix, honey, peanut butter and a little butter into a mixture and now use it on muffins and toast.

mmmmmmm. I'm hungry.

Keeps it from dripping down the arms.

I bet dogs wouldn't mind licking it off. lol

207 posted on 03/24/2008 8:36:34 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: nw_arizona_granny
I can’t imagine living in town.

I couldn't go back to city living. when I was a teenager I couldn't wait for the day I could move out of the city, everyone (including myself) figured I'd outgrow that mindset fairly quickly after I moved to Delaware in 1982 when I was 22. I never did outgrow that idea and it got to the point that even Dover, DE became too "big city" for me.

I wouldn't trade having grown up in NYC for anything, but that is not how I want our daughter to grow up. Thankfully my husband is as "big city" averse as I am.

208 posted on 03/24/2008 8:37:23 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Joya

I have a wok like that. The key is to never, ever let soap touch it. When I’m done cooking with it, I just let it heat up a bit, add 1/2 tsp veg oil till it starts to smoke the smallest amount, let it cool, dump it out, and wipe with a paper towel.


209 posted on 03/24/2008 8:38:53 AM PDT by djf
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To: nw_arizona_granny
I can’t imagine living in town.

Me either. Except for the short time we lived in Austin city limits, we have always lived in the country. We moved to Red Rock to get out of Austin. The city life is just not for us.

210 posted on 03/24/2008 8:39:13 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Gabz
What "comes naturally" to an urbanite may not dawn on someone in a rural area and vice versa.

You are absolutely right. Learn from each other.

211 posted on 03/24/2008 8:40:54 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: nw_arizona_granny

We put our spring garden yesterday. Rented a garden tiller, tilled thoroughly, then tilled manure compost in and then topped it with porous fabric for weed control. Already have Tomato, okra, eggplant and green bell pepper plants in.

Green pepper, okra and tomatoes (for cooking purposes), are incredibly easy to freeze. We’ll be adding onion sets, yellow squash, cucumbers and jalapeno peppers soon. We also plan to have a fall garden, since you can do that in Florida.


212 posted on 03/24/2008 8:41:48 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: djf

May I butt in here on teflon pans?

I would not use them on a campfire or other uneven heat, at last, what we knew 30 years ago, is in the news.

The gases released from teflon pans will make you sick, maybe even kill you.

People were having healthy parrots die, back in the 1970’s and it was from getting the teflon pans too hot, the gas killed the birds, it was in the bird books/magazines.

If one is short on water, then on a regular pan, not teflon, one can use a handful of tough grass and sharp sand to clean the pans.


213 posted on 03/24/2008 8:41:59 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. ... . Mark Twain)
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To: Joya
Anyone can buy cast iron skillets and dutch ovens at Wal-Mart, they carry the Lodge brand, which is made in the USA.

That's impossible. Everyone KNOWS that EVERYTHING sold at WalMart is made in China........./rapid WM hater emtnality.

I inherited my MIL's cast iron skillets, some are over 50 years old. I use the one I bought when I first was out on my own nearly everyday, 25 years last year. About 10 years ago I bought an entire set of cast iron cookware. I also have a 20+ year old set of copper clad Revereware.

I have one teflon pan and I use it only for crepes and omelets :)

214 posted on 03/24/2008 8:43:20 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: djf

BUMP


215 posted on 03/24/2008 8:43:30 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (Inside me lives a skinny woman crying to get out. But I can usually shut the #itch up with cookies.)
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To: Joya

How to season a cast-iron pan? Surface of mine is coming off.


216 posted on 03/24/2008 8:45:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: processing please hold

Buy guns and ammo. I can’t stress that enough. Depend on yourselves for your and your family’s safety. The police will have it’s hands full.<<<

You are right........here the police may have one man covering an area 50 miles away from him.

If what I hear on the San Diego police scanner is a good sample, then the forces are not large enough to protect us.

I have listened to the Federal cops join in the common police work, and many nights the undercover are having to break cover to help out, which is a danger to them.

I listen on the internet at:
scan san diego.net to the #1 scanner link.


217 posted on 03/24/2008 8:47:47 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. ... . Mark Twain)
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To: VOA

Welcome and thanks for the bump.


218 posted on 03/24/2008 8:48:33 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. ... . Mark Twain)
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To: djf
We bought a lot of Lava soap and Irish spring. I also bought Caress, for when I want to feel and smell more like a woman and not a lumberjack. lol

We have gallons and gallons of unscented bleach and vinegar.

219 posted on 03/24/2008 8:49:14 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: spotbust1

You are probably outraged at the thought of such an inflammatory statement. However, we are a society which holds Freedom of Speech as perhaps our greatest liberty. And after all, it is just a sign.<<<

I went thru the roof, before I finished reading your post.

Wonderful, they exercised their freedom of speech and made an important statement.


220 posted on 03/24/2008 8:51:38 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. ... . Mark Twain)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Nice list. I would add firearms and at least quadruple the water - for my part of the world. Water can be very hard to come by. Food not so hard if you are creative.
221 posted on 03/24/2008 8:52:43 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Bookmarking...


222 posted on 03/24/2008 8:54:30 AM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Well, if we’re talkin survival mode, then small amounts of gas will probably be the least of your worries.

I just mentioned them for exactly the reason I mentioned them - they can be used with small amounts of oil or butter, they are easy to clean.

We can stock up on all sorts of stuff - but we can’t buy cans of common sense!


223 posted on 03/24/2008 8:54:50 AM PDT by djf
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To: processing please hold
I also bought Caress, for when I want to feel and smell more like a woman and not a lumberjack. lol

ROFL!!!!!!!!

I know that so very well!!!

224 posted on 03/24/2008 8:55:22 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
.here the police may have one man covering an area 50 miles away from him.

Wow! I would hate to need an office in a critical situation and know they were that far away.

Here, we have already divided up duties and given each family member a role they will occupy and be responsible for. Did their eyes ever roll over in their heads when we had a family meeting on that.

225 posted on 03/24/2008 8:56:34 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: varina davis
Already have Tomato, okra, eggplant and green bell pepper plants in.

I'm so jealous, it's going to be a while before I can get those in the ground. Of course I'm quite a bit north of you :)

The yellow squash and jalapenos also freeze very well.

226 posted on 03/24/2008 8:58:53 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

I’m sure hubby will appreciate snuggling up next to the sweet smell. ;)


227 posted on 03/24/2008 8:59:44 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: sandyeggo

Hello and welcome, join right in, there is much to learn.

Once you taste the difference, you will not want to go back to store bought foods.


228 posted on 03/24/2008 8:59:51 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. ... . Mark Twain)
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To: Gabz

PBS had a show where they took some folks out into the prairie and let them live like pioneers.

A natural sort of economy evolved, based mostly on food and energy, etc.

But one of the most prized things that showed up were the toiletries. Combs. Mouthwash. Just the simple stuff that we take for granted. It’s the stuff that separates us from the troglodytes.


229 posted on 03/24/2008 9:02:13 AM PDT by djf
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To: djf

I can’t find toothpaste that comes in packages of more than three. Maybe Sam’s has it.


230 posted on 03/24/2008 9:07:10 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: djf
We can stock up on all sorts of stuff - but we can’t buy cans of common sense!

And I can think of so many people who really could use it.

I live in an area prone to n'oreasters, flooding, assorted other weather related events and the associated power outages. It never ceases to amaze me how many people just have NO CLUE how to prepar for such eventualities. Of course these are the same kind of people that move out of cities because they like the "quaint" life in a rural area and then proceed to demand the services they left behind in the city.

I left the city to get away from that stuff, I don't want to bring it here and ruin the "quaintness" of rural living.

231 posted on 03/24/2008 9:09:56 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: All
Here's a good site about the shelf life of food.

inanutshell

232 posted on 03/24/2008 9:11:08 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I have noticed how expensive food is getting. I have a small garden, and am hoping to expand it this year. I want to learn how to can, so I can put up my own tomato sauce. Our family has been eating more venison than anything lately, so that helps us save as well.

I am planning on growing butternut squash, among other things. It makes a great soup. I don’t know the exact measurements, but here’s how I make it:

Bake squash in oven or microwave until tender, and scoop out middle. Sautee butter and onions until tender, add chicken stock, squash, salt and pepper. Puree until smooth. It is also great to add some cream and a tiny pinch of pumpkin pie spice at the end.

Butternut squash is also great in sweet breads and pies, and it keeps well also.


233 posted on 03/24/2008 9:15:09 AM PDT by chickpundit (I will abide under the shadow of the Almighty.)
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To: processing please hold

ROFL!!!!! There have been times when I swear I have smelled more like a man than he does!!!!

We seemingly have reversed roles over the course of the past 20 years. When we met he was a construction worker and I was of the heels and hose business type. By last summer he was coming home from work in a suit and tie to find me in the field in cut-offs, workboots, and a ball cap — the same uniform he wore for 25 years!!!!


234 posted on 03/24/2008 9:19:23 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: chickpundit
I want to learn how to can, so I can put up my own tomato sauce.

Here's you a good site to start with.

How Do I can

235 posted on 03/24/2008 9:20:50 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Gabz
By last summer he was coming home from work in a suit and tie to find me in the field in cut-offs, workboots, and a ball cap —

That's how I dress. The only time he sees me in a dress and stockings is when we attend a funeral. I hate dresses. You just can't sit comfortable in them. :)

236 posted on 03/24/2008 9:24:08 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: ctdonath2

Some people say to put the cast iron skillet in the oven when you run it on the self-cleaning cycle. That will clean it down to the bare iron. You then go through a standard seasoning procedure same as a new piece.

I don’t have anything peeling off my skillet. When it gets too gunked up, I either rub some salt into it as an abrasive or else I wash it with a little dish soap and water and scrub it with a green scrubby or with steel wool. I then rinse and immediately put it on the stove and turn the burner on long enough to get the skillet hot, to be sure it’s really dry.

I NEVER leave cast iron with water soaking in it. It can sit on top of my stove waiting to be washed, but no water touches it till I have enough time and energy to do the above procedure from start to finish. And that includes alert enough and energetic enough to stand there at the stove and watch it while I have the burner on. Don’t want to walk away and forget the stove’s on.

Others using my kitchen may use my skillet, but no one else ever washes it. Just me.


237 posted on 03/24/2008 9:25:19 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Gabz

I’m lucky in a way because my whole life my greatest hobby has simply been taking things apart and putting them back together.

When I was about 11, I took a Timex clock apart. Labelled all the parts, and put it back together.
It Worked!

Didn’t work good, but it worked!
So I always considered myself pretty self sufficient. And you’re right. Many, if not most, don’t have a clue.

I’m stocked up enough to make it for quite a while. But I’m way, way too close to the Seattle-Tacoma-Portland metro district to be able to last long term here.

If I was forty miles east, I’d be in much better shape.


238 posted on 03/24/2008 9:30:21 AM PDT by djf
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To: Gabz

I’m opposed to be working, here!!!!

Thanks anyway, Gabz!

Only reason I noticed this was because I was doing paperwork and FReeper just...popped up! BWAHAHA


239 posted on 03/24/2008 9:32:49 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: OB1kNOb
----and keep a few gallons of gasoline or diesel in stock in case of emergency (but you will need to rotate and use it periodically to prevent it from ruining).---- There are a couple of great products for keeping gas and diesel fresh called PRI-G for gas and PRI-D for diesel. They are way less expensive to use that Sta-bil and are more effective. A $25 dollar jug will treat over 500 gallons, and will treat fuel that has already gone bad as well. This can be had at Nitro-Pak which was mentioned earlier.
240 posted on 03/24/2008 9:33:30 AM PDT by ResponseAbility
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To: nw_arizona_granny; sandude; Saundra Duffy; Utah Girl; Spiff; tantiboh; 2pugs4me; sevenbak; ...
For thoes with limited space and Apartment dwellers!

Bring the garden into your kitchen. No green thumb is needed with this aeroponic high-yield grower. Simply drop in the pre-seeded pods, add water and the included nutrient tablets, and watch as your plants grow to produce great-tasting harvests---all without dirt, bugs, or chemicals. From AeroGarden.

Black/Stainless Steel. Includes garden unit; gourmet herb, salad greens, and cherry tomato seed pod kits; and two grow lightbulbs Grows fresh herbs and vegetables year-round
Adaptive growth intelligence system automatically monitors and adjusts water, light, and nutrient delivery for maximum growth
Indicator light lets you know when to change bulb Adjustable to height of plants
Measures 15-1/2"H to 21-1/2"H x 18"L x 10-1/2"W UL listed; 1-year Limited Manufacturer's Warranty on unit, 6-month Limited Manufacturer's Warranty on bulbs
Made in China/USA

There are two other models it is something to think about when food is scarce and a good supplement to food storage


Watch for sale and easy pay
CLICK


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Flex pay, HSN CLICK

241 posted on 03/24/2008 9:34:17 AM PDT by restornu
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

**In the event that we have no electricity for weeks/months,**

Don’t forget the hand can opener! All those canned goods are going to drive you nuts if you can’t get them open! LOL


242 posted on 03/24/2008 9:34:25 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: nw_arizona_granny

WOW Granny! Way to go! I’m impressed with your first thread. ;-)

Great work and a very important thread, to be sure.


243 posted on 03/24/2008 9:35:06 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: nw_arizona_granny

As the wife of an active duty soldier, I was enraged until I got to the end. I was getting ready to pack a bag and drive right down to the business that would post such a sign.

I was glad to read the end.


244 posted on 03/24/2008 9:36:36 AM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; sandude; Saundra Duffy; Utah Girl; Spiff; tantiboh; 2pugs4me; sevenbak; ...
For those with limited space and Apartment dwellers!

Bring the garden into your kitchen. No green thumb is needed with this aeroponic high-yield grower. Simply drop in the pre-seeded pods, add water and the included nutrient tablets, and watch as your plants grow to produce great-tasting harvests---all without dirt, bugs, or chemicals. From AeroGarden.

Black/Stainless Steel. Includes garden unit; gourmet herb, salad greens, and cherry tomato seed pod kits; and two grow lightbulbs Grows fresh herbs and vegetables year-round
Adaptive growth intelligence system automatically monitors and adjusts water, light, and nutrient delivery for maximum growth
Indicator light lets you know when to change bulb Adjustable to height of plants
Measures 15-1/2"H to 21-1/2"H x 18"L x 10-1/2"W UL listed; 1-year Limited Manufacturer's Warranty on unit, 6-month Limited Manufacturer's Warranty on bulbs
Made in China/USA

There are two other models it is something to think about when food is scarce and a good supplement to food storage


Watch for sale and easy pay
CLICK


CLICK


Flex pay, HSN CLICK

245 posted on 03/24/2008 9:37:13 AM PDT by restornu
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Good morning.

There are things that my late mother used to call hyacinths for the soul.

A jar of good instant coffee can lessen the misery on a bad day, long after coffee has disappeared from the pantry.

I no longer smoke, but a tin of Prince Albert sits in my survival box with the coffee and some hard candy. There are also waterproof matches and a fire starter & tinder, along with fish hooks and line and needles and dental floss in a small metal box. The dental floss makes great thread for repairing torn clothes.

I also no longer drink, but keep a representative selection of boozes, both for barter and to smooth out really bad days. A couple of bricks of .22LR is good for barter and can keep you fed.

One item that I believe should be in every home is the “Foxfire” series of books. One can learn the basics of survival in a world without Wallyworld in those books while being entertained. It's too bad so many people don't read.

Water, warmth, good shoes and ways of staying dry. Mouse traps and topical medicines. There are so many things to think about and the election is only 8 months away.

Michael Frazier

246 posted on 03/24/2008 9:40:54 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: djf
I’m lucky in a way because my whole life my greatest hobby has simply been taking things apart and putting them back together.

ROFL! You sound like my daughter and husband. He found her one day dismantling the police scanner. "I wanted to see how it works daddy." She was 3.

If I was forty miles east, I’d be in much better shape.

The biggest "city" in the county I live is Chincoteague Island, pop ~4,500. The closest "real" cities are Salisbury and Ocean City,MD and they are 50 miles away. Unfortunately so many of those "without a clue" are migrating to these areas and causing those of us with a clue undue grief and angst.

247 posted on 03/24/2008 9:42:07 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: gardengirl

A likely story.............HA!!!!!!!


248 posted on 03/24/2008 9:42:50 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: ncpatriot

LOL, I did know and have forgotten what I knew about flour.

Pastry flour, might be sold as cake flour, it should be finer and comes from a different wheat, but I cannot tell you the different kinds.

I prefer to use the flour from Mexico, their tortilla flour as sold in the markets, makes fine bread. But that was when I lived near Yuma and it was safe to go into Mexico....I would not do it today.

I use the common store brand of flour for most every recipe, if it calls for pastry or cake flour, I sift it a couple extra times.

I would expect the traditional wheat flour to have more bran in it.

There was a time that I bought the bran flakes in the health food stores to add to my bread.

Bleached flour is dead flour, they have removed all the good stuff in it, so it will be white, if it says enriched, then chemical vitamins have been added back as they do the milk you buy.

I buy my wheat flour at waltonfeed.com in the bags, not the cans.

Also the cornmeal I bought at waltons.

It is what I use in my breadmachine.

It has been 3 years since I was strong enough to go to the store, so these differences in names are not tops on my mind.

I also use the Walton’s yeast, it is called Saf , and when I last bought it, it was $3.75 for 18 ounces and the label says it is the same as the brown bottle that sold then for $8.00 at Walmart for the bread machine, which as I recall was 4 ounces.

If you can afford it, use the un-bleached flour, it is a yellowish color, not the bright white flour the name brands sell.

There is a lot of info on the different varieties, I hope on the king flour site, it is slow to load for me, as I am on dial up, so will let you know if I find the real information, instead of the
“this is how I do it” info.

I find this notice scary, a warning on the rise in wheat:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/about/high-wheat-prices.html

It should be here, but it was PDF and jamming my computer:

[I am on dial up internet and have too much open to do PDF]

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/professional/58858.html

I know that I have read the differences in their paper catalog.

I dared not open the recipe page, they have good recipes:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/landing.jsp?go=DefaultRecipeMain

Home page:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/


249 posted on 03/24/2008 9:42:56 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. ... . Mark Twain)
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To: All; MHGinTN

Useful or fun gadgets:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/landing.jsp?go=Home

This page made me think of you.


250 posted on 03/24/2008 9:45:53 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. ... . Mark Twain)
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