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Top 10 Smartest and Dumbest Dog Breeds
CBS4.com ^ | 4/7/08

Posted on 04/28/2008 1:05:46 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks

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To: bpjam
But Poodles?? Aw, come on!

Smartest dog we ever owned was a toy poodle.. none other we have owned has came close... showed her for a few years. She was absolutely brilliant.

141 posted on 04/28/2008 2:42:56 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor." — Barack Obama)
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To: qam1

#37 Beautiful dog. They resemble a Border Collie or is that just the angle?


142 posted on 04/28/2008 2:43:04 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: The Mayor
We have a Border Collie, very smart!

we have two Border Collies--Spencer and Penni... neat dogs... easy to train... honestly, they are so smart they seem more like people than animals... we will only ever have Border Collies...

143 posted on 04/28/2008 2:45:11 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: nmh
They resemble a Border Collie or is that just the angle?

they look a lot alike... i think the coloring is different... both are sheep herding dogs... they have the same stances...

144 posted on 04/28/2008 2:47:09 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: ThePythonicCow
My dog as a kid was a Border Collie. I could bend your ear for hours with stories as to how smart that dog was.

I could also.

Your BC knowing not to jump in the truck to go to the vet doesn't surprise me. Mine could read my thoughts also.

One other quickie..
I friend from out West, don't remember which state, had friends that raised cattle and hired cowboys.
He told me the cattle ranchers got rid of the cowboys, 11 if IRCC and got 3 Border Collies.

146 posted on 04/28/2008 2:48:21 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: bpjam
Poodles are another case of divergence within a breed.

It's the Standard Poodles that are pretty smart.

The toy and miniatures have been bred mostly for size, so brains aren't necessarily part of the package. There are some smart ones, but you're just as likely to draw a dumb one.

But while the Standards are smart, they aren't really very good retrievers any more. There is a couple in our hunting retriever club that is trying their hardest to get their Standard Poodles ready for a hunt test. Now, don't get me wrong, these are very smart dogs. But while they were originally gun dogs and water dogs centuries ago, they have lost most of the desire to retrieve, especially in water. They just don't WANT to get in the water to pick up that duck . . . they'll do it, but very reluctantly (while the ruder members of the gallery are hooting and hollering that they don't want to chip their nail polish or mess up their hairdo).

Meanwhile the Labs and Chessies are hitting the water at a dead run with huge splashes and great big grins . . . the problem is keeping them OUT of water.

I guess really the point of all this is that it's easier to get a dog to do what he's been bred for, than to just out of stubbornness or to prove a point try to train a dog to do something he wasn't bred for.

147 posted on 04/28/2008 2:49:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: WayneS
Depends on what you want the dog to do.

I've never seen a beagle do a 250 yard mark in heavy cover.

On the other hand, my Labs aren't very good at tracking rabbits.

I've known Labs that were as dumb as a bag of hammers, of course, but mine are pretty smart. They're intensively trained, though.

148 posted on 04/28/2008 2:53:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: latina4dubya

She catches on very quickly except she like to escape and run.

We just got a kitten too and they are just now becoming friends. It should be fun to watch them grow together.

The Border Collie is only a year old and the cat 2 months.


149 posted on 04/28/2008 2:53:52 PM PDT by The Mayor ("A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps" (Prov. 16:9))
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To: Clint N. Suhks

A small one would be good for a lap dog.
Ours is only a year but very light and doesn’t mind being picked up at all.


150 posted on 04/28/2008 2:55:10 PM PDT by The Mayor ("A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps" (Prov. 16:9))
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To: Clint N. Suhks; VA Voter
Irish Setters can be bright (I wish I could remember the name of the FReeper who has one who is a Master Agility Champion), but an awful lot of them seem to be pretty dense.

To counter the agility Setter, there's one in our agility club who began training in the same class as my Lab, some 4 years ago. My Lab has her AX and AXJ and is running in Masters, while last time I heard, that poor Setter had yet to get his FIRST qualifying score in Novice.

151 posted on 04/28/2008 2:56:22 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
The toy and miniatures have been bred mostly for size, so brains aren't necessarily part of the package. There are some smart ones, but you're just as likely to draw a dumb one.

Having raised toy poodles for 12 year years, that has not been our experience whatsoever. The toy poodles were we raised seemed crème de la crème in intellenge. Of course owners were a different breed.

152 posted on 04/28/2008 3:02:39 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor." — Barack Obama)
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To: LowOiL
It's the same old story - you got a good bloodline!

I used to breed and show Siamese cats, and I bred first for temperament, next for health, and only last for conformation. Had one champion, just the same.

Lots of folks weren't that picky and bred just for looks. There were plenty of mean, sickly Siamese around.

153 posted on 04/28/2008 3:08:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Oh really? I do hunt tests. My Reagan had her HRCH in the UKC and a CGC. She was a great hunter. Check out my home page.

Never tried any agility, guys in my training club might make fun, or any obedience either since you need that to get to that level. Looks like fun tho, I watch it on TV sometimes.


154 posted on 04/28/2008 3:08:23 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (In small-town Pennsylvania, bitter ignorant anti-immigrant rednecks cling to guns & religion...BO)
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To: sonic109

That’s not dumb; that’s rebellion. Very clever rebellion.

I assume you’re familiar with the Golden Retriever creep. You put one on a down & stay, and over the course of time, he creeps farther and farther away from where you put him, a little at a time.

He seems to know when your attention is not on him.


155 posted on 04/28/2008 3:15:17 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: HairOfTheDog; devolve; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

Here is a ranking site;
http://petrix.com/dogint/intelligence.html

My Yorkie is listed #27 out of 79 breeds. He is smart and listens well.

My last dog, “Potlatch”, was a Peke-a-Poo, half Pekinese and half Poodle and he was very smart. Looked like a tiny Shish Tsu.

Strange how a few of the smartest are ones likely to attack people, lol. I did not look at the rating of Pit Bulls, or Staffordshires.


156 posted on 04/28/2008 3:17:20 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Basenji’s stupid? If your idea of dog intelligence is a slavish slurping furbag, I guess so.

Mine are brilliant dogs, they just don’t obey for the heck of it. They’ve survived for thousands of years in the Congo, used for hunting small game. In that environment smarts are more important than slipper fetching, afterall you’re in competition with leopards, lions, cape dogs, hyenas... etc...

Plus, the neighbor’s love them because they don’t bark.

Face it... if it isn’t a Basenji it’s just a DOG.


157 posted on 04/28/2008 3:23:10 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
No clue as to this dog's intelligence, just thought it was a cool photo:


158 posted on 04/28/2008 3:28:08 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
It's the same old story - you got a good bloodline!

I worked 3 years for a vet nearly went into the field... toy poodles IS a good breed.

159 posted on 04/28/2008 3:30:49 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor." — Barack Obama)
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To: Rebelbase
I think that may be photoshopped.

Here's one that real.

160 posted on 04/28/2008 3:35:56 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (In small-town Pennsylvania, bitter ignorant anti-immigrant rednecks cling to guns & religion...BO)
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