Posted on 06/14/2008 8:25:27 PM PDT by Yomin Postelnik
I see the problem as some folks equating religious belief with scientific evidence (Hey, there's a tagline in there!). Because they strongly believe something they don't feel the need to come into a scientific argument with scientific evidence. They use the Answers in Genesis nonsense and think that they are "smiting the evilutionists." Thus we get the "second law of thermal documents" and the like, as well as some very ridiculous arguments.
After a few hundred times explaining the most basic of scientific points, the patience of even the most patient of scientists can run thin.
This would all be avoided if the fundamentalists who have neither an interest in, nor knowledge of science would avoid the science threads.
This would all be avoided if the fundamentalists who have neither an interest in, nor knowledge of science would avoid the science threads.
***Well, the infrastructure is in place for you to have what you want. All you need to do is open a thread with the tag “Scientism” and keep it a caucus thread and it falls under the Religion Moderator’s purview to kick those “smiters” off the thread. You can have some cake; but you’ll have to eat it eventually.
Sorry, I do science, not scientism.
And the Religion Mod has ruled that science is not religion. This is correct, as science truly is not a religion.
What I would prefer would be [science] tags in General/Chat which would strongly suggest to those wishing to push a particular religious viewpoint, with no appreciable science content, to post in another thread.
Sorry, I do science, not scientism.
***If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, flies like a duck and it ain’t a goose, it’s probably a duck.
And the Religion Mod has ruled that science is not religion. This is correct, as science truly is not a religion.
***Science may not be, but faith in science is rapidly becoming a religion. Faith is faith.
What I would prefer would be [science] tags in General/Chat which would strongly suggest to those wishing to push a particular religious viewpoint, with no appreciable science content, to post in another thread.
***Yeah, lots of people want their cake and eat it, too. Best of luck to you in excising people from FR science threads who have a “particular religious viewpoint” without the religious moderator stepping in with his existing system. Seems to me the Scientism folks already have that anyways, over at Darwin Central — if ever there was a great example of the demeanor I cited, it’s at DC. It’s a mystery to me why folks come to a website like this that’s “pro-God” and try to remove the “pro-God” folks from their pet projects & threads.
The history and philosophical origins of evolution far predate Darwin.
Which Darwin?
Which theory of evolution?
I have to go for now.
I will bring my citations a little later.
When you saw Darwin, are you referring to Charles or Erasmus?
When you say evolution, are you referring to a general statement that living things change over time, a statement that living things are related by descent, a statement that species branch, a statement that change is gradual and incremental or a statement that change occurs in large jump, a statement that some members of a population produce more offspring and pass their particular differences on at a greater rate than other individuals, or a statement that individuals acquire genetic traits during their lifetime and pass these learned traits on to their offspring?
This is not an exhaustive list, but comes from Ernst Mayr, and is considered a pretty good list of the theories associated with the word evolution.
A clever person will note that each item on the list is independent of the others.
I’m not asking you for citations. I’m just asking you to clarify what you meant.
Your idea that evolutionary thought or theory sprang from geology is incomplete and inaccurate at best.
http://berkeley.edu/history/evothought
http://berkeley.edu/history/evotmline
http://www.geocentricity.com/ba1/no85/evolhist.html#_ednref3
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