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FactCheck.org ^ | August 21, 2008 | Factcheck.org

Posted on 08/21/2008 4:45:25 PM PDT by Kevmo

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To: AuH2ORepublican

What possible evidence, EVIDENCE, not internet rumors is there that this idoicy is true.


61 posted on 08/22/2008 9:34:10 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: Kevmo
Of course, if Polarik got a look at the original evidence and could compare it to the scanned in version, I’m willing to bet the two documents wouldn’t be a match. That’s why we don’t see a scanned in version of the document the factcheck guys are holding.

I'm still rankled by being in the same group as the now-discredited TechDude who had the audacity to suggest the forger used solvent to wash the laser ink off the paper.

Oh, they got in a little zinger to me, personally, by dragging out that thoroughly disputed claim of "scanner artifacts."

"Scaner artifact" my lily white arse.

I've already sent them two emails calling them out, but they won't come out, that's for sure.

So, it would be real sweet if I could get the message out to the blogsphere that Polarik is still here and has never been proven wrong.

Memo to FactCheck: "Is that all you got, chump?"

62 posted on 08/22/2008 12:06:55 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: MindBender26

Finaly, does anyone have any idea how just plain stupid this entire line sounds?
***Well, then, refute the technical evidence. Also, think for yourself just a little while. Why did it take so long for Obama to come out with this latest round of evidence? He makes it sound like he had it all along, so that means he was just playing games, if he did have it. Or it means he had to travel to Hawaii to line up his new forgery to the existing evidence if he did not have it. Which of those two approaches require extra time?

In 1992, Gennifer Flowers produced a recording of Bill Clinton’s voice telling her to “lie, just lie” about their affair even under oath. At the time the MSM called that manufactured evidence, even though Flowers was a complete bimbo. We have a moral imperative to pursue this line of inquiry because of what it could mean if it were true, just like we did when all of us threw Flowers under the bus. So, you work the RINO side of the street and we’ll work our side.


63 posted on 08/22/2008 6:29:16 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Polarik

Tomorrow, I’m blowing the lid off this latest subterfuge. I’m taking no prisoners.
***Well, don’t keep us in suspense. I’m glad you’re confident but my confidence is waning. Not because I think the birth certificate on FightTheSmears is real, but because the fix is in and the MSM now has enough breathing room to ignore the evidence. If the evidence you produce is not overwhelming, battle will be lost.


64 posted on 08/22/2008 6:35:46 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

This Obama citizenship thing is such a snipe hunt.

If “real” conservatives are going to waste their time chasing rumors built on rumors built on rumors, rather than trying to show American swing voters why Osamabama’s positions and policies are risky and dangerous, then Lord help us.


65 posted on 08/22/2008 7:23:35 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: Kevmo

This Obama citizenship thing is such a snipe hunt.

If “real” conservatives are going to waste their time chasing rumors built on rumors built on rumors, rather than trying to show American swing voters why Osamabama’s positions and policies are risky and dangerous, then Lord help us.

P.S. It reminds me of the income tax scammer who built his entire defense on the fact that the American flag in the courtroom had gold fringe around it, so it was not an official flag, and therefore an illegal court, etc.

22 years, Sukka. When you hot, you hot.


66 posted on 08/22/2008 7:26:50 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: amom

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67 posted on 08/22/2008 10:33:38 PM PDT by amom (Proud Blue Star Mom of a Tanker somewhere near Sadr (rememberingTonk-always)
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To: MindBender26; pissant

I see you’ve given up on posting things of substance, showing that you really are a troll (rather than Pissant) as was discussed in previous threads. RINOs like you are the problem in the republican party. It’s no surprise to find that you choose to snipe at the guys who are doing the most damage to Obama. So if anyone’s going to go on a snipe hunt, it’s for the RINO snipers like you. That’s what the bugzapper thread was for:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts


68 posted on 08/23/2008 3:29:45 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
No, generally, I have given up posting to YOU.

I will make one final attempt to bring you back to rationality, however.

Simple questions:

Who would you rather run against in 2008, Osamabama or the Hildabeast?

For all the reasons that I have posted before, Obama is the Democrat's Primary Election dream, and General Election nightmare.

For all the “coalitions that Dems need to win” reasons, Obama is the best target since Dukakis.

That said, why would you want to do anything now to possibly deny him the nomination? If any of the not-a-citizen foolishness proves to be true, wait until he is the nominated candidate. Wait until about 10 days before the General and throw the Dems into complete disarray.

If is is true, it's a bullet we can shoot only once. Why waste it now, when the results of our “success” would be the nomination of the Hildabeast?!?.

When the opposition is trying to hang themselves, never wrestle them for the rope!

69 posted on 08/23/2008 6:21:40 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

Read what I wrote. I said *if* Obama had been born outside the U.S. he would not be a U.S. citizen at birth.


70 posted on 08/23/2008 7:50:29 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
I said *if* Obama had been born outside the U.S. he would not be a U.S. citizen at birth.

He would unless his father was not a U.S. citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen, had not lived in the U.S. for 10 years, 5 of which had to have been after the age of 16 and before giving birth to him.
71 posted on 08/23/2008 7:53:25 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Kevmo
he date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.

And was quite different from the actual version used for 2007.
72 posted on 08/23/2008 7:55:13 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: MindBender26; Kevmo

There is a small group of ‘real conservatives’ that are able to multi-task. As I’ve shown you multiple times. That small group will continue to spend some of its time ferreting out the truth about Obama’s fraudulent early life narrative, including the fake COLB.

There is another small group of ‘conservatives’ that apparently can’t multitask, and instead waste their time in a futile effort to get those who can to ‘talk about the issues’ instead of talking about the issues.

I’m still waiting for your groundbreaking threads on the ‘issues’ that have not been covered dozens of times by me and hundreds of others here.


73 posted on 08/23/2008 8:28:04 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: MindBender26

Wait until about 10 days before the General and throw the Dems into complete disarray.
***Glad to hear you’ll be on board in 10 days. Exactly what would have been your plan in 10 days if no one had been pushing this forward? Would your plan have been to rail against those conservatives who were supposed to have been getting the ball rolling? Well, that’s what I think your plan would have been. Because you basically post nothing of substance.


74 posted on 08/23/2008 8:47:18 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

No offense, but if cows had wings, they could fly.


75 posted on 08/23/2008 9:44:12 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: aruanan

Under the law as in effect when Obama was born, a child with one non-citizen parent and one U.S. citizen parent would be a U.S. citizen at birth even if born abroad if the U.S. citizen parent had lived 10 years in the U.S., 5 of which were after the age of *14*; Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, so he would not have been a U.S. citizen at birth had he been born outside of the U.S.

The law was subsequently amended, in 1982 IIRC, and now a child born abroad with one alien parent and one citizen parent is a citizen at birth if the citizen parent lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years, of which at least 2 were after the age of 14. But Obama was born in 1961, not the 1980s, and thus it is the law in effect in 1961 that applied to his citizenship status at birth.

But if Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims (and as the photographed Certificate of Life Birth says), then he was a U.S. citizen at birth and thus a natural-born citizen eligible for the presidency.


76 posted on 08/23/2008 10:04:23 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: bvw

After being soundly beaten about the head and shoulders on this point, I retract my statement about Factcheck. Apparently I was wrong...


77 posted on 08/28/2008 10:20:36 AM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar

I used to reference FactCheck.org ocasionally, especially after VP Cheney mentioned them at one of the past presidential debates. (Cheney made the mistake of saying “factcheck.COM” instead of “factcheck.ORG”, Soros quickley purchased the rights to factcheck.com that same night and unsuspecting surfers were redirected to a Soros anti-Bush site!!). I long ago gave up on factcheck.org as a reliable source of info...


78 posted on 08/28/2008 10:28:32 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: piytar
Virtual head and shoulders.
79 posted on 08/28/2008 12:24:45 PM PDT by bvw
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