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Mammoth Mystery: The Beasts' Final Years
Live Science ^ | Sep 4, 2008 | Charles Q. Choi

Posted on 09/04/2008 10:42:29 AM PDT by decimon

Woolly mammoths' last stand before extinction in Siberia wasn't made by natives - rather, the beasts had American roots, researchers have discovered.

Woolly mammoths once roamed the Earth for more than a half-million years, ranging from Europe to Asia to North America. These Ice Age giants vanished from mainland Siberia by 9,000 years ago, although mammoths survived on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean until roughly 3,700 years ago.

"Scientists have always thought that because mammoths roamed such a huge territory - from Western Europe to Central North America - that North American woolly mammoths were a sideshow of no particular significance to the evolution of the species," said researcher Hendrik Poinar, an evolutionary geneticist at McMaster University in Hamilton, Canada.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; mammoth; mammoths; mammothtoldme

1 posted on 09/04/2008 10:42:29 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

Imperialist American Mammoth ping.


2 posted on 09/04/2008 10:44:17 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

There’s reason to think that a small handful of mammoths might have survived on the East coast of the U.S. until shortly after whites arrived and Indians started having firearms in their hands.


3 posted on 09/04/2008 10:44:51 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: decimon

I don’t think Hillary! is in her final years (unfortunately), New York will continue to elect her to the Senate.


4 posted on 09/04/2008 10:45:39 AM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: decimon

I read the title and thought the story was about Hillary ...


5 posted on 09/04/2008 10:46:13 AM PDT by webschooner (McWhatshisname/Palin 2008 !!)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


6 posted on 09/04/2008 10:50:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; ..
Thanks decimon.
 
Catastrophism
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7 posted on 09/04/2008 10:51:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: decimon; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

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Gods
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Thanks decimon.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
 

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8 posted on 09/04/2008 10:51:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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9 posted on 09/04/2008 10:53:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: varmintman

Lewis and Clark expected to find Mammoths in the North American interior they explored in 1804-6.


10 posted on 09/04/2008 10:57:49 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Hey Biden! Saracuda's gonna give you a major wedgie in the VP debates!)
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To: decimon
A still-unexplained part of this mystery is the occurrence of pygmy mammoth fossils in the Channel Islands off the California coast. The attached article speculates that a population of larger mammoths was isolated on what later became the islands due to rises in sea level caused by Pleistocene "global warming." They probably evolved into pygmies in order to survive on smaller food resources. Pygmy Mammoth
11 posted on 09/04/2008 11:03:02 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: decimon

Never knew that mammoths were still around nearly 1000 years AFTER the pyramids were built in Egypt!


12 posted on 09/04/2008 11:04:42 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: decimon

Camels evolved in NA also..


13 posted on 09/04/2008 11:28:02 AM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: decimon
although mammoths survived on Wrangel Island in the Arctic Ocean until roughly 3,700 years ago.

"According to some US individuals, including the group State Department Watch, eight Arctic islands currently controlled by Russia, including Wrangel Island, are claimed by the United States. However, according to the United States Department of State no such claim exists." - link

14 posted on 09/04/2008 11:29:25 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: SunkenCiv; All

I haven’t read all these interesting links, but my first thought upon reading in the article that the Siberian mammoths died aroung 40,000 years ago was Firestone’s book.
Could energy from something like the super nova he hypothesizes have hit the Siberian area at that time? Can’t wait to read the links. Thanks for your efforts.


15 posted on 09/04/2008 12:32:41 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: rivercat
That's cause Canakles aren't eatable.
16 posted on 09/04/2008 6:33:30 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: decimon

What did in the mammoths?

“I’ll have the roast mammoth with mango salsa.”


17 posted on 09/04/2008 6:41:13 PM PDT by Pelham (Obama bin Biden, a trophy now decorating the Palin fireplace.)
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To: gleeaikin

As I think you know, the CoCC book doesn’t go into much detail regarding the earlier bombardment, most of it concerns the Clovis mass extinctions for which they’ve gathered so much evidence. I can’t recall offhand (and I’m not a great housekeeper, so I can’t prove that the book is or isn’t here right now) what the first bombardment was made of, but it must have been faster-moving, probably lighter but more energetic particles.


18 posted on 09/04/2008 10:08:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: wideminded

On an off-topic but related note, the US also has mostly exclusive claims over a number of Pacific Islands, some of which have been shown not to exist, or at least, not to exist any longer. Vincent Gaddis, writing in “Strange” magazine about 15 years ago, penned a fascinating article about various vanished and intermittent islands.


19 posted on 09/04/2008 10:11:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Bernard Marx; SunkenCiv; All

“pygmy mammoth fossils on California coastal islands”

Pygmy elephant remains were also found on the island of Flores, where the tiny Hobbit human remains were found, both probably small for the same reason.


20 posted on 09/04/2008 11:11:12 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Why is it that overactivity in the mind area is so often correlated with underactitivy in the housekeeping area? I can’t find my copy either.


21 posted on 09/04/2008 11:15:32 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: webschooner

I thought it was about Hillary too!


22 posted on 09/04/2008 11:19:05 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: gleeaikin

Hey, the world should try to be satisfied with our genius.


23 posted on 09/05/2008 8:32:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: decimon
Bush's fault.
Women children, and minorities most affected!
24 posted on 09/07/2008 8:24:02 PM PDT by night reader (NRA Life Member since 1962)
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Volunteers uncovers 58th Mammoth at the Mammoth Site (Hot Springs, SD)
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25 posted on 09/08/2008 10:48:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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putting the m-PHAS-sis on the wrong syl-LAH-ble.
DNA Shows That Last Woolly Mammoths Had North American Roots
ScienceDaily
Friday, September 5, 2008
"Migrations over Beringia [the land bridge that once spanned the Bering Strait] were rare; it served as a filter to keep eastern and western groups or populations of woollies apart, says Poinar. "However, it now appears that mammoths established themselves in North America much earlier than presumed, then migrated back to Siberia, and eventually replaced all pre-existing haplotypes of mammoths."

"Small-scale population replacements, as we call them, are not a rare phenomenon within species, but ones occurring on a continental scale certainly are," says Ross MacPhee, curator of mammalogy at the American Museum of Natural History, and one of the researchers on the study.

26 posted on 09/08/2008 10:53:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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