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Strongly considering buying a gun

Posted on 09/20/2008 8:15:55 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney

I'm strongly considering buying a handgun to carry concealed. Live in Upstate NY, 26 years old, male, attorney. Married - no kids yet so don't have to buy a gun safe.

Getting the license unrestricted won't be a problem because I'm good friends with the judge who issues them. I will have to take a safety course before applying, however.

Don't know a huge amount about handguns or guns but probably about as much as the average American male. Went hunting with my uncle a couple times as a kid and I've fired a 1911 at the range once before.

Am open to either a semiautomatic or a revolver. Have looked at the Glock 26 and Kahr PM9 so far in local gun shops. I am looking for more suggestions and/or opinions on those two models - I don't really want to carry a full-sized handgun like the 1911 though. I want something that I can ideally tuck inside the waistband without printing and something that won't weigh me down because I'm on my feet about half of every workday. I know that New York still has its state version of the assault weapons ban in effect, so I believe all magazines manufactured after the ban that have capacities of more than 10 rounds are still illegal. I could conceivably purchase a large-cap mag that was manufactured before 1994, but federal and state gun laws are not my area of expertise, so I would have to look into the legalities of that. I'm not even really sure if I need a magazine larger than 10 rounds though if I'm going to be carrying a compact or subcompact pistol.

Thanks!


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To: valkyry1
LCP: Light Compact Pistol.

ACP: Automatic Colt Pistol

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21 posted on 09/20/2008 8:41:27 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney
For a first time weapon that you can drop into your pocket, briefcase etc and be guaranteed to fire when you need it to, I would suggest looking at a 38 Special revolver. The weapon is intended for self defence so within that parameter and distance limitation, plus some range time, a 38 Special will do the job. Charter Arms produce a good line of revolvers at a reasonable price.
JM2Cents
22 posted on 09/20/2008 8:41:57 PM PDT by monkeycard (There's no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

First,

generally speaking, it is always nice to hold as many bullets as possible. Remember “10” is a forced limit from the Clinton era.

Second it depends on what you feel comfortable with, and how hard it would be to conceal and retrieve quickly.

There are a lot of great handguns out there. I personally have enjoyed Ruger’s firearms. I also like Smith and Wesson semiautos. Lots of people here like Glocks. I’d say test a few different models out. Gun stores that have indoor ranges usually have models you can use to test fire to see how you like them.

The bigger they are the harder they are to conceal. It may also make a difference in what kind of holster you’d have to use to conceal them more effectively.


23 posted on 09/20/2008 8:43:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: monkeycard
Agreed. I also have a little Charter Arms .38 SPL "Off-Duty".

Good pocket gun.

24 posted on 09/20/2008 8:43:56 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: valkyry1

LCP is I believe Ruger’s acronym for “Lightweight Compact Pistol” and ACP harks back to the original Colt which when adopted by the Army became the “Automatic Colt Pistol” - and with the military’s love of all things with an acronym, it became ACP... ;-)


25 posted on 09/20/2008 8:44:31 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: valkyry1

You have a lot of options. I personally like the Kel-Tec P-11. I have also carried the Glock 27. The key is finding something that you can conceal easily and shoot accurately and reliably. Whatever weapon you choose make sure to know what load it likes the best and practice with that load. I like at least a 9mm load.


26 posted on 09/20/2008 8:47:30 PM PDT by jacksonstate
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

Take an NRA sanctioned firearms safety course and then ask. You put the last question first.


27 posted on 09/20/2008 8:48:53 PM PDT by Octar
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush
Is it true that guns are carried in plain view???

Believe it or not, open carry of handguns in Texas is illegal. Only legal carry option for handguns on your person is licensed concealed carry.

28 posted on 09/20/2008 8:52:18 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Vote! Vote for the conservative local, state, and national candidates of your choice, but VOTE!)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney
I've put a couple of thousand rounds through the Glock 17 and the Glock 26 (most through the 17). Never had a stoppage. Very reliable weapons, easy to break down for cleaning and no external safety or other confusing bells and whistles so IMO a good auto-load choice for someone who is relatively inexperienced, but who intends to practice, drill and learn good, safe gun handling technique.

The Glock 26 is small, light and easily concealable. I carry it in a Cobra Gunskin (waistband tuck-in) leather holster which I've used since the early '90s. Can't recommend the Cobra holster enough.

Nothing wrong, BTW, with conceal-carrying a revolver. Easier, less complex to handle, and you don't have to worry about the weapon jamming or not being in-battery.

Hope this helps.

29 posted on 09/20/2008 8:52:28 PM PDT by kaspergutman
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To: Lurker

He clearly stated that he was getting a concealed carry license. What more do you want?


31 posted on 09/20/2008 8:54:57 PM PDT by pdq
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To: monkeycard

“15” and “22” beat me to the punch.....;)


32 posted on 09/20/2008 8:54:58 PM PDT by JoenTX
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

As for carrying guns in open sight, not handguns with a CCW. I do believe gun racks are still legal (?) here so in this since, yes, carried in the open or at least they use to be on a routine basis.

For me, for pure self defence, I prefer a revolver over a semi-auto. Yes, semis are very reliable and do have higher magazine capacities, but nothing is simpler and easier to use in a pressure situation IMHO. Call me old-fashioned, I know. I have a little Taurus .38 that is my favorite for this and makers like S&W, Charter Arms, etc. make similar and most of them are very affordable.


33 posted on 09/20/2008 8:55:13 PM PDT by JoenTX
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney
Were I you I would strongly consider one of the SigSauer single stack models in either .380 or 9mm.

They're incredibly well made, utterly reliable, slim, light, and extremely accurate.

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34 posted on 09/20/2008 8:57:00 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney
You can't go wrong with a S&W Model 638, .38 SPL +P


35 posted on 09/20/2008 8:57:01 PM PDT by Jaxter (Everything I needed to know about Obama I learned by Googling "Black Liberation Theology".)
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To: jacksonstate

It seems like the 9MM up to the 45LCP is the best range for these type of weapons.

Revolvers are a whole nuther topic.


36 posted on 09/20/2008 8:57:51 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

If you want a Glock 26, get a Glock 27 instead. It’s the same frame, but with the more potent .40 S&W. For <100 bucks you can grab a 9mm conversion barrel to let you shoot at the range for cheap, let the wife/girlfriend shoot with a little less kick, etc.

It’s literally a <5 minute drop-in with no other parts besides a 9mm magazine. You can’t do the reverse (put a .40 barrel into a 26) because the 9mm is smaller.

Also, you can get grip extensions that fit to the bottom of the magazine to let you get your whole hand on there, and extend the magazine by 1 or 2 rounds.

Last thing...there’s no such thing as a “high capacity” magazine. That’s doublespeak the gun grabbers came up with. Before they renamed everyday pistols as “assault” weapons, they were just standard, un-castrated, normal mags. Just call them “standard capacity” or “full capacity”.


37 posted on 09/20/2008 9:00:23 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: 43north

I see what you are saying about not letting guns fall into the wrong hands, but what good will my gun locked in a gun safe do me if someone were to break into my house? I’d much rather have the gun in my nightstand drawer.


38 posted on 09/20/2008 9:03:10 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Barry, you're more racist than 99% of Americans. And you're ugly.)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

A good starter pistol type is the revolver. They are easy to clean, not complicated to take apart to clean and don’t have the jamming potential of the semi-autos.

Leaving the shell casings behind, after firing, is not desired in some situations for some people so semi-autos is not a good choice for those having those concerns.


39 posted on 09/20/2008 9:03:59 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

Didn’t you post a similar topic last week? No one should decide for you. You need to figure that out for yourself by trying out different models/types. You need to do your homework first. There is actually a series of several important decisions to make if you want your first purchase to be successful and not wind up being a trade-in after 3 months.


40 posted on 09/20/2008 9:04:22 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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