Skip to comments.Coast-2-Coast AM 10.09.08 Nicholas Gruner -Fatima Secrets-
Posted on 10/09/2008 7:23:07 PM PDT by Perdogg
Nicholas Gruner -Fatima Secrets- fatima.org Catholic priest, Fr. Nicholas Gruner of the Fatima Center will discuss his plans to petition Pope Benedict XVI to release the text of Sister Lucia's account of the Third Secret of Fatima.
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I remember listening to the “inverse” interview with Father Malichi Martin when he discussed what he could ‘NOT’ reveal but elicited listeners to ask “around” what could be revealed. It was pretty clear what the secret was. And it wasn’t what was revealed by the Church.
SHOULD BE very interesting.
Anyone belong to STREAMLINK AT C2C who can provide us with a transcript by and by?
Please ask God to help guide you to the truth when listening to Fr. Nicholas Gruner.
Yes, Virgina, Fr. Nicholas is Suspended.
Fr. Gruner and his media apostolates
Fátima Crusader and Catholic Family News
Please ping me to any updates. Thanks in advance.
Likewise, if you see them before I do.
Will do......although I am not able to spend as much time here as I would like.
Enjoy the show, like Noory, but Ian Punnet is great.
Fr. Gruner is incardinated in a diocese in India.
Likewise. Still trying to get the raised tomato bed glazed in with polycarbonate panels before frost . . . which could be this weekend. Plastic sheeting will hold until I can finish but still . . . lots to do.
And I’ve been a Laurel & Hardy disaster a time or two thinking I could save time with the glue and foam spacers and ending up like a one armed paper hanger trying to do the work of two men . . . what a riot . . . to anyone who’d have watched but not me! LOL.
Finally got enough clamps and will let the glue set a bit before attaching the panels.
Why? Do you think Mary appeared at Fatima? If so, why aren't you Catholic? If not, why is an intramural squabble between two sets of people who think she did "very interesting"?
One of major things Gruner is concerned about is whether or not the Papal consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, commanded in the Fatima apparition, was properly carried out. I'm not sure I understand at all why you would care one way or the other.
Care to enlighten me?
As I’ve stated elsewhere several times . . .
I used to accept Fatima more or less as propagandized by the Jesuits et al.
Having read enough UFO docs since 1962, when I read some of the better researched stuff on the original event and original witnesses specific observations, I could no longer buy the propagandized, sanitized, morphed version by the Vatican/Roman Institution.
I don’t really know what this Vatican rep will be saying. But it might be interesting.
I now consider the whole event little more than a grand part of a many millennial long hoax to deceive, where and were it possible, even the elect of Christ.
I do not believe the personage at Fatima was the authentic Mary, Mother of Jesus, at all.
That is his site, it would be pro-Gruner. All I was saying is use discernment.
Isn’t that what we are saying to the Obama people. Discern what you are being told.
Not trying to start a riot, sorry.
Fatima is an accepted apparition by the church. Thousands seen the sun dance and prophecy by Lucia came true. These are used to discern true apparitions.
In fact, Pope John Paul II thanked Our Lady of Fatima for saving his life when he was shot. He bowed when he saw her in the crowd just as the shot was fired. His position saved his life. Our Lady of Fatima, in my eyes is real, very real.
Interesting about John Paul II bowing to Our Lady of Fatima as the shots were fired at him and it saved his life. I was unaware of that.
The Archbishop himself of the diocese has stated Fr. Gruner is incardinated in his diocese.
You need to stay away from neo con kooks, particularly one was into the occult and may still be.
and I should add, bearing false witness is a sin. Don’t help others do so.
“The Third Secret will be released in full at the outbreak of a major war.”
-prophecy of Sister Lucy in 1992.
I gather you haven’t examined the evidence.
Or, you haven’t sufficient knowledge of such phenomena with which to compare.
Or, bias is blinding.
Millennially long deceptions from hell can be very polished, indeed. I believe Fatima is but one puzzle piece of such deceptions . . . a major puzzle piece in some respects, perhaps . . . but just one of many.
Lots of things are counterfeited in our era . . . and many more are about to be.
Do you mean:
Which Merrium-Webster doesn’t have, BTW
no, I’m not familiar with that term.
If I spelled it right, incardinated means an individual priest basically belongs to a diocese where he is approved to exercise his priestly functions.
This is very interesting. Fr. G has been on for over 2 hrs. He said something I’ve been saying for a while. The Pope in white killed in the Third Secret vision is not JPII, it’s Benedict.
Guess I’m still not precisely confident of your point.
Thanks for your kind reply.
I found that a rather sobering point.
I’ve felt for months that such was highly likely. And I wasn’t aware of anyone else thinking or saying such a thing.
God have mercy and prevent such, if at all possible.
Just curious, but what was the secret?
That was poorly put—I’m not confident of a precise understanding of your point and would appreciate your elaboration.
bearing false witness is a sin. Dont help others do so.
I would agree with that statement. Bearing false witness against the Holy Father and Sr. Lucia is nothing I would want to promote.
Good. Then quit spreading lies.
Whatever! You seriously believe the Holy Father and Sr. Lucia are liars. Just because Fr. Gruner believes there is more to the story, doesn’t mean it is so. By the fruits they will be known. His fruits have been divisive and disturbing. This is not of God. Sr. Lucia said so herself.
No, I don’t and neither does Fr. Gruner which you would know if you paid attention to the facts rather than your own personal little mission of bashing a good priest.
You haven’t got one “fact” right yet.
I guess believe what you want. Fr. Gruner is not my salvation. I do not have to believe in what he says, especially if there is reason to doubt it. Discernment is the answer. You discern your truth and I will discern mine.
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