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Ok folks, now we need to start buying guns while we can..I need help

Posted on 11/04/2008 7:19:25 PM PST by Armedanddangerous

I figure we have a window of about six months before we have to start worrying about gun bans, so I need some help.


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I've got the rifles I need (I need another AR, or at least a different upper). But I need a source for reliable Walther P-99 sixteen round mags.

The only ones Ive found are nearly 50 bucks each.

1 posted on 11/04/2008 7:19:26 PM PST by Armedanddangerous
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To: Armedanddangerous

If they are registered they may be confiscated. That’s one of the first things Hitler did.


2 posted on 11/04/2008 7:22:21 PM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: Bellflower

Perhaps someone could post “current” guns laws in states where guns can be purchased easily without registration


3 posted on 11/04/2008 7:25:04 PM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Bellflower

“If they are registered they may be confiscated.”

Molon Labe.


4 posted on 11/04/2008 7:26:15 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Our Long National Nightmare Has Begun.)
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To: Armedanddangerous

I need (more) help as well. I need at least a shotgun, preferrably 12ga Remington 870, 2nd choice Winchester defender. I’d like to get a .308 rifle as well, and a .45 ACP (1911). I figure I have until mid-January, and I should be able to cover the cost, though if someone here in TX can do a package, that would help immensely. I don’t need collector pieces or match-grade. I also wouldn’t mind a crack at a .30 M1 Carbine.


5 posted on 11/04/2008 7:26:48 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Armedanddangerous
Any guesses as to what the gun shops will look like tomorrow?

I bet they will see some BRISK sales.

6 posted on 11/04/2008 7:26:54 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: wilco200

4473, betcha data for past years will “miraculously” reappear.


7 posted on 11/04/2008 7:28:13 PM PST by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: Armedanddangerous

I recommend guns with calibers that are easy to find ammo for. 357, 9mm, 45 are good choices.

If you get wildcat rounds you better learn to reload.


8 posted on 11/04/2008 7:28:28 PM PST by fuzzybutt
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To: Little Pig; Armedanddangerous

I am a highly-skilled IT engineer, so I can barter work to cover (or partially cover) the price.


9 posted on 11/04/2008 7:28:53 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Bellflower

private sales..no paper


10 posted on 11/04/2008 7:30:50 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Some men just want to watch the world burn)
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To: Little Pig

for home defense check out the Remington 870 Tactical Magnum with SpecOps Stock (recoil reducing).

If they come collecting guns, I will disappear with mine into the back country. I have been preparing my survival gear, guns, and ammo for sometime now. I will never surrender them.


11 posted on 11/04/2008 7:30:50 PM PST by chris37
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To: SIDENET

Im focused more on magazines right now..since Im good for guns.. but Id get hunting shotguns from the classified ads and have the bbls cut down to 18.5


12 posted on 11/04/2008 7:32:46 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Some men just want to watch the world burn)
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To: chris37

I have some friends with 100-200 guns..and theyre hidden everywhere.


13 posted on 11/04/2008 7:34:37 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Some men just want to watch the world burn)
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To: Little Pig

I would recommend a Remington 700 for the rifle. They’re relatively inexpensive ($400-$500 or so) and are very accurate. They can be had optics-ready or with iron sights and are quite accurate to 200 yards out of the box or more depending on your shooting skill. In my experience Ruger’s M77 rifles have been very accurate and reliable as well.

The Remington 870 Express is a great shotgun. It is highly customizable and shoots a wide variety of shells. It’s not expensive ($300-$400) and is a great 12 gauge.

1911 pistols are hard to go wrong with, especially if you don’t mind the full size models. They aren’t that expensive either.


14 posted on 11/04/2008 7:36:11 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: Little Pig

Lets do a group gun buy for cheaper prices. I am in for 1 12 guage(semi auto right?)


15 posted on 11/04/2008 7:36:41 PM PST by steve0
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To: Armedanddangerous

Good place to look for magazines - all makes and models..

http://www.promagindustries.com/

p99 mags about $30.00


16 posted on 11/04/2008 7:37:40 PM PST by UPcrawfish
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To: Little Pig

In the short run, nothing on your list will be targeted. They will go for the UBRs and full capacity mags.

In four years????


17 posted on 11/04/2008 7:37:53 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Bellflower
If they are registered

Gee, sir, all my guns were stolen while I was on my way to the gun show...

18 posted on 11/04/2008 7:37:55 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: chris37

exactly my thoughts and plan. they will never get mine, not one of ‘em.


19 posted on 11/04/2008 7:38:04 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: flintsilver7

Is the 870 a pump? Why is pump better than semi-auto. I want the speed of a semi-auto, right?


20 posted on 11/04/2008 7:39:45 PM PST by steve0
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To: flintsilver7

I’m thinking the same thing, though I’ve got big hands, so I’d prefer a full-size .45 1911. I’m thinking optic-ready synthetic-stock 700, Remington 870, and basic 1911. That ought to cover my basic needs. As a second round, I’m thinking that M1 carbine and a 7.62x39mm rifle, maybe an sks, since they’re cheap and would be useful as a scavenge-fed backup.


21 posted on 11/04/2008 7:40:57 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Armedanddangerous

If you didnt learn during the Clinton regime to get your guns you are a slow learner. Its ammunition, and ammo components you should be after now. I reckon I am good on all counts.


22 posted on 11/04/2008 7:41:51 PM PST by ruger1
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To: Armedanddangerous

“I figure we have a window of about six months”

3 months. Congress in back and so is the new pres in January. Pelosi wants to meet back next week and start on getting bills rammed through for Obama to sign. You can bet your sweet ass that a firearms restriction will be in all that.


23 posted on 11/04/2008 7:42:40 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: steve0

The 870 is a pump. They’re much more reliable. The semiautos are tricky, I think because the big recoil bangs things around, and shotgun shells are dirty compared to cartridges.


24 posted on 11/04/2008 7:43:36 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: fuzzybutt

We have 2 Redhawks. 44 mag and 3, 12 ga. Tons of ammo for all. Wife and kids know how to use them. That pile of dog sh!t won’t get them without a fight. I might die, but 6 or more of them WILL go with us. That will do their kids a BIG favor.


25 posted on 11/04/2008 7:46:13 PM PST by dredhawk
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To: steve0
Rem 870 is a pump as is the Mossberg 500. Both can be retrofitted with extended magazine tubes. A pump will slow you down and you have a more controlled situation without the fast expenditure of ammunition. The sound of a pump shotgun racking a round into the chamber is quite a sobering sound in the darkness for someone who is not where they are supposed to be.
26 posted on 11/04/2008 7:47:29 PM PST by UPcrawfish
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To: steve0

The 870 is a pump. It has a long track record of reliability and performance. If you really want an autoloaded, the Remington 1100 is pretty good as well. I don’t feel like you’re really gaining much by going to an autoloader.


27 posted on 11/04/2008 7:48:23 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: bobby.223

Acknowledged and understood, Sir.

A pump 870 shotgun can be modified with a pistol grip, an 18” barrel, and a magazine extension, whereas a semi-auto cannot, because it will be considered “assault” if it is semi-auto.


28 posted on 11/04/2008 7:52:33 PM PST by chris37
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To: Little Pig

As for 7.62x39, if you have an abundance of that ammunition laying around I’d recommend an AK-47. The Romanian knockoffs are surprisingly cheap and still seem to shoot quite well. The SKS is a good choice as well, though I *think* 30 round magazines are more difficult to come by. In any case, you can get a good 7.62x39mm rifle for not as much as you might think ($500 or so).


29 posted on 11/04/2008 7:53:14 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: Armedanddangerous

you’d better buy the ammo to go with it! bambi said he can’t get rid of guns but he can tax the ammo so high no one can afford it!


30 posted on 11/04/2008 7:54:04 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: Armedanddangerous
I know an old guy, got the MG permit. He's got a year, two to live. Said he'd buy all I want.

He dies, no guns. No paper trail, or if so, to a dead guy.

Just an idea.

Anyways, seeing how crap comes in on bales, does anyone thing Hugo, or a Venezuelan Captain, who knows a Venezuelan Colonel who knows a guy... well, you can have as many AK’s for $250 as you want.

31 posted on 11/04/2008 7:56:16 PM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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To: flintsilver7

That’s why I picked that list. If I can’t get these in a package, and/or can’t barter or partially barter work for them, I’ll have to buy them one by one. I’m thinking from a practical standpoint the shotgun should be first, but conversely, the 1911 and the rifle may be harder to get, since shotguns are viewed by the ruling elite as not as “dangerous”.


32 posted on 11/04/2008 8:04:44 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: HiJinx

Better be able to hide them where no metal detector will find them.


33 posted on 11/04/2008 8:14:34 PM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: Armedanddangerous

If you don’t already have firearms that are unregistered and untraceable to you, be sure and get a black powder handgun or two, along with all its compliments, while you still can. ...Never let the scum take away your responsibility to defend your family, especially from the thugs that will come with Obama’s fascist thugocracy.


34 posted on 11/04/2008 8:27:02 PM PST by pallis
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To: chris37

why are you replying to me regarding the slide vrs. auto shotgun question?


35 posted on 11/04/2008 8:28:13 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: bobby.223

I’m not. Only the first sentence was for you.

The shotgun reply was for the person asking about shotguns.


36 posted on 11/04/2008 8:31:01 PM PST by chris37
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To: chris37

well than that reply goes to the poster asking/discussing that topic, that is how FR works.


37 posted on 11/04/2008 8:44:40 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: bobby.223

IDC man, seriously...find something else to complain about, there’s plenty to chose from.


38 posted on 11/04/2008 9:10:05 PM PST by chris37
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To: Bellflower
And they are 83+ million guns in the USA .Im worred lets not totaly lose all hope.there is still are a lot of wildcards out like the heller decision how would the miltary react when its their familys and friends that are being rounded up/harassed on a mass scale
39 posted on 11/04/2008 9:21:16 PM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Armedanddangerous

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c103:1:./temp/~c103AerhLi:e643945:

Basically anything outlined in Title XI, subtitle A, of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act is what you want to buy because if the Assault Weapon ban is reinstated permanently, you will never be able to buy new versions of these types of guns again.


40 posted on 11/04/2008 9:44:33 PM PST by BorisTheBulletDodger (Bang!)
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To: chris37

dry up young man.


41 posted on 11/04/2008 9:49:50 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Charlespg

Not to be negative but I have read that armies from other countries such as Russia have trained here. UN armies have practiced taking over cities in the US. It could be possible for them to call in armies from other nations. They will not have a problem dealing with us. I have read some bad stories about UN soldiers.
The bright side, if you can call it that, is if he wants to become The World Leader he may not want to express his maniacal side here yet. He will want to build his reputation in the world. Right now that is what I am hoping for. That he will play it cool at least for a while. Maybe. It depends on what his backers plans are.


42 posted on 11/04/2008 9:51:23 PM PST by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: bobby.223

I’ve had nothing to drink tonight but a glass of vitamin D milk. Is that dry enough for you, Sir? Like I told you earlier, find something else to complain about. If I had known you were such a tight wad, I would have never responded to you in the first place, but if you like, I can direct all of my future posts to you, since it makes you so irritable. Just lemme know if you prefer that, and I’ll arrange it happily.


43 posted on 11/04/2008 10:01:30 PM PST by chris37
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To: Armedanddangerous
I just bought 400rds of .223 for $184 total including shipping and tax. Being a member of the Sportsman's Guide Buyers Club has it's benefits. This purchase is PMC brand. It was an impulse buy based on election results. But I've been collecting ammo for over 10 years. A little bit at a time, whenever I could afford it. As a result I have over 500rds of the famed Winchester "Black Talon" in 45 ACP. That's but a drop in my bucket, too. LOL
44 posted on 11/04/2008 10:13:06 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Armedanddangerous

Forget guns, if you are facing a force with guns like any police you have already lost.

Guns are a last ditch defend the homestead scenario.

If you buy do it logically or better yet learn machine shop practices and build your own, it would not be easily traceable, build disposable, we all have watched CSI. One shot, toss it or make it of a material that easily degrades.

Google search prison weapons, they can make anything.

Besides I am always suspicious of gun threads in the first place, too easy to get the macho guys to start bragging and thats an effective way to get information.


45 posted on 11/04/2008 10:21:21 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey (alpha and omega)
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To: Daniel Ramsey
"Forget guns...you have already lost.
Guns are a last ditch...Google search prison weapons...
...too easy to get the macho guys...
"

Drinking or schizophrenic? Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . ."

46 posted on 11/04/2008 10:33:43 PM PST by gnarledmaw (...their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories....)
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To: gnarledmaw

I seriously doubt Americans will shoot fellow Americans, I for one would loath having to square off with any force other than an outside the country invasion force.

Could America have another Civil War? I doubt it. What I do see is a possibility of “truth squads” fanning out to find unrest in its infancy, now if I happen to hear of a fool idiot gun nut blasting away at any show of force well he is still an idiot in my books.

This is not quite yet a Red Dawn type of America, if it ever did I would expect no less than every American to be armed. And frankly if I needed guns I would find the enemy and steal his, not buy them and create a record.


47 posted on 11/04/2008 10:42:15 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey (alpha and omega)
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To: Leisler
"Just an idea."

Don't even think about it. Get it out of your head right now.
Been to the old guy's house?
Ever called him on the phone?
Exchanged correspondence?
Email?
Been seen in his company?
When the old guy dies, they'll inventory his property. Missing MGs aren't exactly like missing 30-30 Winnys. They'll want 'em found. Big time. They'll know exactly where to start looking.
48 posted on 11/05/2008 7:38:31 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: PowderMonkey

I’ll do as I please.
More so as the years roll on.


49 posted on 11/05/2008 7:45:42 AM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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To: Daniel Ramsey

Just like Mao Zedong!


50 posted on 11/05/2008 11:12:14 AM PST by idespiseike
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