Posted on 11/05/2008 5:25:47 AM PST by VaBthang4
In Virginia, a close-fought state, Obama got 1,791,154, while McCain got 1,635,292. Barr got 10,542, Baldwin, 7168, while Nader won 10,802 and the Green Party won 2298.
If you add Barr and Baldwin’s numbers to McCain’s, you still have less than the 1.7 million that Obama won.
Maybe they did significantly better in other states, but in this case, they were not the factor that caused Obama to win.
—tkoed
-—Of all the GOP candidates for POTUS, there was maybe a full fluid ounce of charisma between them.——
Amen to that...and well said.
If you must blame someone, blame the American sheeple who voted for such a questionable character. The American sheeple who let the media/Hollywood elite drag them around by the nose.
Me? I'm just going to sign up for welfare, food stamps etc. And watch this circus unfold, from my knees.
Yep.
We need to stick to core values that not only used to define the Republican party, but are still the heart and soul of the whole country.
It is the reactionary way the “leadership” of the Republican party handled the 2008 & 2006 elections that caused this fiasco.
Let Constitutional principals and truth be your guide. Not acquiescent platitude.
Or as Momma us to put when I would argue; “but why can’t I go, everybody else is going to be there?”
She would say ; “If every body else jumped off a cliff would want to go too?”
Well look out bottom here we come!
Rant/off
JC
Atlas shrugs.
I agree. I hate to say it, yet I will. I found it very hard to take Ron Paul, and his supporters, seriously. Even one avid supporter who is a very dear friend.
Maybe the questionable character that is our President-Elect (i just threw up a little in my mouth, for real) will be the kick in the butt the GOP and/or the Libertarian party needs to make it's way into the new century.
Anyway, don't blame me... I voted for Fred Thompson in the primary!
yes, don’t tell me that social conservatives need to go away after prop 8 passes thanks to Obama voters.
It's what the stupid party does best.
he couldn’t because he didn’t have an alternative plan. you can’t just be against everything
yes the real problem was pandering to feminists, populists (let’s go after those greedy capitalists and regulate them to death just like Obama!) and illegal immigrants. Remember that hillary mortgage plan during the 2nd debate? What the heck?
You are smokin' crack. You will find the Christian Right among the least supportive of McCain, and the Pro-Life among them...
McCain lost because the Conservatives stayed home. Plain and simple... His run up the middle-left cost him the right, and the election. A "Giuliani Gambit" of monumental proportions.
The Republicans had a couple of very good candidates in Romney and Rudy that would have won in a blowout. McCain is a national hero but he should not have gotten the nomination.
I am sure the Republicans, eager to move to the left, will embrace your foolish vision and run Romney up the flagpole next time... and they will lose horribly... massively, again.
McCain is a traitorous bastard, and an idiot to boot, and the only thing I can agree with you on is that he should not have gotten the nomination.
Fiscal conservatives will allow others to jump on board, it is the freaks of the religious right that insist on only someone like them.
FiCons jumping overboard after the bailout were McCain's final doom. They are not as forgiving as you let on, at least not on issues that are important to them.
That others emphasize social conservatism over your issues do not make them right or you right. In Reagan Conservatism, BOTH are right, and BOTH should be demanded of our leaders. The one who would be wrong is he that would vote his own interests without protecting the interests of other conservatives too.
That is why Reagan Conservatives vote only for Conservatives- those who embrace all three pillars of Conservatism- Without serving all three, we lose every time.
Did someone run on that platform? Was there a party that had practiced such for the last 8 years and ran on it as a theme? Let me know so I can vote form him/them next time.
Please demonstrate with numbers how if every Barr vote went for McCain, that he still would have won. If you can't do that, shall I assume you have character enough to admit that your above statement is incorrect?
In the end, the Libertarian vote, if it had been funneled to McCain, wouldn’t have helped him on this.
McCain, if he had made the case for conservatism, would have done it. As is was, only Palin seemed to push these principles. McCain was out there promising new programs for buying additional mortgages and such and lied during the primaries when he said he was the “true conservative” the week Romney dropped out (Romney isn’t a “true conservative,” either).
We need to get the TRUE true conservative voice out there and we will win. Chasing after “independents” and Democrats with liberal policies didn’t help McCain after all his years of pandering while knocking down the Republican party.
Liberals and “independents,” when faced with a more liberal choice, will invariably choose it.
FiCons jumping overboard after the bailout were McCain’s final doom.
but there were 2 types of fiscal conservatives: the total libertarians and main street conservatives on one hand and then there were those that were for the bailout (WSJ, think tanks and other business groups). A no win issue.
I think that instead of an anti-American Marxist lined up to be elected, we'd have a traditional conservative waiting for the Electoral College to convene, as Ron Paul would have pulled in many Independents.
So by your "logic" technique, Obama's victory is the fault of Republicans who didn't support Ron Paul.
He got mine. Screw the socialists running both the republican and democrat parties.
I was watching the Florida vote last night and early on I noticed that the difference between O and Mc was about the same vote total that Barr was getting. I guess during the night even adding the libertarian vote to the GOP wouldn’t have helped but early on Barr was draining votes from the GOP. That a$$hole said he wanted to take votes away from the GOP and wanted to play the spoiler. He got his wish.
Agreed. The GOP has left it’s base and it’s paying for it, but let’s face it, people were tired of the war and blaming the economic mess on the GOP when in fact the Rats were responsible.
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