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Supreme Court refused to hear the Donofrio case because he was a kook!
Self | 12/8/08 | Self

Posted on 12/08/2008 10:48:27 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants

First, Donofrio admits that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Second, he tortures the law and the Constitution to come up with the twisted interpretation that Obama wasn't a Naturally born citizen because Obama's FATHER was a British subject.

Third, if the Supreme Court HAD taken the case, then MILLIONS of people born inside the US with one or both parents not being US citizens would no longer be considered US citizens.

The Supreme Court isn't going to waste it's time on such stupidity.

Now, when someone actually appeals to the Supreme Court and questions the LOCATION of Obama's birth, THEN I believe the Supreme Court will hear it.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; donofrio; goodvanity; ignorantvanity; obama; supreme
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1 posted on 12/08/2008 10:48:31 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

He may well be a kook.....but your interpretation is not much better/accurate than his.


2 posted on 12/08/2008 10:51:33 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Except for the last paragraph, right on! I wish that we could maybe stop wasting time with all of these garbage lawsuits.


3 posted on 12/08/2008 10:52:16 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Obama is for (leaving you with pocket) change.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Third, if the Supreme Court HAD taken the case, then MILLIONS of people born inside the US with one or both parents not being US citizens would no longer be considered US citizens.”

you must be a “natural born” citizen, not a “citizen”. Two different things


4 posted on 12/08/2008 10:52:25 AM PST by babubabu
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To: Blood of Tyrants; Admin Moderator
Self.. get a clue and get a life.

Someone take this POS vanity down

5 posted on 12/08/2008 10:52:51 AM PST by dalight
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To: Blood of Tyrants
* SIGH * You and others continue to confuse regular-old U.S. citizen VS Natural-born citizen.

Second of all, Donofrio DID NOT admit that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Obama is NOT a natural-born citizen. His paternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya as well as other relatives. Bill Richardson referred to him as an immigrant. The COLB is fake, and even if it was real, it still would not substitute for an authenticated long-form birth certificate.

6 posted on 12/08/2008 10:54:19 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well..., since this is about the 99th or 100th thread on this, I’ll give my 100th post on this... :-)

It’s like I’ve posted before about the Supreme Court, concerning Obama being a “natural-born Kenyan” and not being qualified as President of the United States. The Supreme Court is not interested in resolving this issue — but — they may resolve it after Obama has served his term in office... LOL..

So much for the Constitution...


7 posted on 12/08/2008 10:55:04 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Except for the last paragraph, right on! I wish that we could maybe stop wasting time with all of these garbage lawsuits.

Protecting the Constitution is "garbage?"

BTW, this was all started by a DEMOCRAT and CLINTON SUPPORTER.

8 posted on 12/08/2008 10:55:18 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: babubabu
"you must be a “natural born” citizen, not a “citizen”. Two different things "

Absolutely right, and a "CertifiCATION of Live Birth" is not the same as a "CertifiCATE of Live Birth". People born outside of America can get the former, only "Natural Born" persons can get the latter.
9 posted on 12/08/2008 10:56:06 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of the 0bamanation.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

IMHO, this was thrown out because it asked SCOTUS to consider another nation’s laws (in this case British Common Law) to have a greater standing over US law when defining a person’s citizenship.


10 posted on 12/08/2008 10:58:25 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Nobody was questioning his citizenship, examine the case before you post!


11 posted on 12/08/2008 10:58:57 AM PST by orchestra
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Headline?

Some people too big to fail Constitution test
The Court Rules: We'll Take His Word
"We can only go so far with this Constitution thingy," says Court spokeman.

12 posted on 12/08/2008 10:59:12 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Supreme Court refused to hear the Donofrio case because he was a kook!

No, they refused to hear the case because they weren't asked to. They were asked to issue a stay while Donofrio preps paperwork (writ of certiorari) actually asking them to hear the case. SCOTUS denied the stay.

I haven't seen so much misinformation about something like this since....Friday.

13 posted on 12/08/2008 11:00:30 AM PST by gdani
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To: Blood of Tyrants
he tortures the law and the Constitution to come up with the twisted interpretation that Obama wasn't a Naturally born citizen because Obama's FATHER was a British subject.

Turns out President Chester Adams had the same problem: he was born in the USA, but his father was British, and Chester went to great lengths to conceal this fact from public view - at the same time others were passionately pursuing his birth certificate. Question is ... why did Chester Adams go to to such great lengths, including outright forging & altering of documents, to conceal his father's citizenship chronology? ... is Obama, whose father was a British citizen, driven by the same fear? Both seem gravely fearful of being disqualified should the truth come out.

14 posted on 12/08/2008 11:00:54 AM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: Star Traveler

Donofrio’s case had nothing to do if Obama was born in Kenya, at that, it was based on the assumption that he was born in Hawaii. Donofrio’s case questioned if Obama has dual loyality due to the fact that under British Common Law, in which his father was subject, he also retained British citizenship.

This isn’t the case most here are looking for as it doesn’t have a thing to do with authenticating his birth location or certificate.


15 posted on 12/08/2008 11:01:06 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Second of all, Donofrio DID NOT admit that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Maye he didn't, but he did not question the authenticity of Obama's fake Internet COLB

Obama is NOT a natural-born citizen. His paternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya as well as other relatives. Bill Richardson referred to him as an immigrant. The COLB is fake, and even if it was real, it still would not substitute for an authenticated long-form birth certificate.

I am quite aware of that. Before the SC will accept a case, I believe that the authenticity of the Internet COLB must be challenged and the ORIGINAL must be presented as FINAL proof. There is a very good article on what the ramifications of Obama not releasing his BC will be, and it isn't pretty.

16 posted on 12/08/2008 11:02:05 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Would you please stop with this “protecting the constitution” line? That isn’t what the conspiracy nutcases are interested in at all. They want to embarrass Obama, but more important, they want attention. In the process, if they manage to embarrass conservatism, who cares? At least they’ve got their 15 minutes.


17 posted on 12/08/2008 11:03:43 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Obama is for (leaving you with pocket) change.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Felipe de Jesus CALDERON Hinojosa & Schwarzenegger for US el presidente 2112!Yep in 2112. They can run the pro Gay/Green Governator with the President of Mexico for el President of the 57 states.

With the voters in Mexico, South America, Canada, Europe, Iran and "new voters" in the Former USA, the Governator can co presidente with the Mexican President for life.

No one will challenge either one including a lot of Freepers. They will win by 200 million votes, and that settles that. Just move on to 2040.

18 posted on 12/08/2008 11:04:30 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Felipe de Jesus CALDERON Hinojosa & Schwarzenegger for US el presidente 2112!)
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To: orchestra

I read it. Donofrio says that Obama isn’t a naturally born citizen because his father wasn’t a US citizen at Jr’s birth, EVEN IF OBAMA WAS BORN IN TH US. Which is just crazy talk.


19 posted on 12/08/2008 11:04:40 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: mnehrling

You said — “Donofrio’s case had nothing to do if Obama was born in Kenya, at that, it was based on the assumption that he was born in Hawaii. Donofrio’s case questioned if Obama has dual loyality due to the fact that under British Common Law, in which his father was subject, he also retained British citizenship.”

If Donofrio had his way then no one running in the election would have been allowed to take office... LOL...

So, I suppose Donofrio’s answer is to run the election over again.... :-)


20 posted on 12/08/2008 11:06:34 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Did you think before you posted this??
You apparently have NO grasp of the facts or issues
regarding BO possibly not being “natural born”.

Get a clue before you spout off.


21 posted on 12/08/2008 11:07:18 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The electors, the congress and a watchdog media are the entities who should be asking about this.

Obviously, they are not doing their job.


22 posted on 12/08/2008 11:07:28 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: gdani

Yes, but if they refuse to issue a stay, then they will probably refuse to hear the case, too. Right or wrong?


23 posted on 12/08/2008 11:07:48 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: Star Traveler
If Donofrio had his way then no one running in the election would have been allowed to take office...

Very true, a lot of us overlook that he also challenged McCain's eligibility.

24 posted on 12/08/2008 11:08:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Would you please stop with this “protecting the constitution” line? That isn’t what the conspiracy nutcases are interested in at all.

And you're "The Amazing Kreskin" and have read their minds?

Or maybe the even more famous:


25 posted on 12/08/2008 11:09:10 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: All
Headline?

Little people must show birth certificate for passports, other privileges
The Court: Birth Certificate Required
"Does not apply to the ruling elite of course," says Court spokesman. "We'll take their word."

26 posted on 12/08/2008 11:09:37 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All

Problem is, only kooks are taking this issue seriously.

Kind of hard to get a person with real questions here since this is a fringe issue.

As much as I would like to believe in this, it wouldn’t lead to McCain winning. Biden would just take over.


27 posted on 12/08/2008 11:10:21 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: FrankR

Correct!

The press is deliberately obfuscating the issue.


28 posted on 12/08/2008 11:11:37 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: Grampa Dave

Let’s get this clear, Calderon and Schwarzennegger: not natural born citizens and therefore NOT ELIGIBLE. Barack Obama: is a natural born citizen and IS ELIGIBLE. No lawsuit, post on an internet message board, or fervent wish will change that. You are wasting your time.


29 posted on 12/08/2008 11:11:44 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Obama is for (leaving you with pocket) change.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All

He is worse than a kook and actually has provided aid and comfort to Zero with this absurd pile of garbage. It is hard to believe he is a lawyer at all given the ridiculous arguments he makes not one of which has a shred of validity.

I believe he is working for Obama.


30 posted on 12/08/2008 11:11:52 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: bossmechanic

And YOU have no idea WHAT I know. Donofrio is a kook. If I were a SC justice, I would have refused the stay on the goofy interpretation the Denofrio had given, too, i.e. that Obama was a citizen and was born in the US, but because HIS FATHER was a British subject, Obama wasn’t a naturally born citizen. It is a STUPID argument.

Now, if you think that Obama is covering up his original BC because it indicates he was born in Kenya, THEN the SC might hear it.


31 posted on 12/08/2008 11:12:19 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

REGARDLESS of anyone being a kook or if he was or was not born in wherever..
JUST SHOW US THE PROOF!

By not proving and stonewalling, one can only assume he has something to hide!
JUST SHOW US THE PROOF!

Do we need a million-man march to the WH?
JUST SHOW US THE PROOF!


32 posted on 12/08/2008 11:12:25 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Dirty Dems at their best is always the worse.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yes, but if they refuse to issue a stay, then they will probably refuse to hear the case, too. Right or wrong?

Not necessarily. There's several potential reasons courts issue or do not issue stays.

But, I'm guessing SCOTUS will still not agree to hear the case if/when they are actually asked.

And they haven't been asked yet, despite your inaccurate headline.

33 posted on 12/08/2008 11:12:49 AM PST by gdani
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To: Star Traveler

In order to obtain a U.S. Passport, you must provide proof of citizenship, normally in the form of a notarized copy of your birth certificate or a copy of your naturalization paperwork. To be a commissioned officer in the U.S. Armed Forces, you MUST be an American Citizen which requires one to show proof. The oath of office, whether it be for President or a member of the Armed Forces, includes the phrase “support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic...” I suppose that SCOTUS’s impotence means that we can burn the Constitution since it’s been spat upon, and reform this country into the image and likeness of BarBam.


34 posted on 12/08/2008 11:13:17 AM PST by Ranger Warrior
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To: mnehrling

It really does not take a lot of legal understanding to understand the fact that THAT idiot point is just that does it? Geez why couldn’t Da Nuts Donofrio figure it out?


35 posted on 12/08/2008 11:15:52 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: rwfromkansas

Biden would be constitutional. Obama is not. Very Simple

The constitution only requires 3 conditions. 2 of the conditions are pretty obvious. But NO Authority has seen a
certificate of live birth on BO - NO ONE save BO and Hawaiian officials - and they can’t talk.
And please don’t regurgitate the pap that what he posted on his website or what factcheck looked at is sufficient.


36 posted on 12/08/2008 11:16:31 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: ctdonath2

You are confusing Chester Adams (whomever that may be) with Chester Arthur.


37 posted on 12/08/2008 11:17:18 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

We?

You do not speak for me.


38 posted on 12/08/2008 11:18:47 AM PST by LucyT
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To: Blood of Tyrants

100 years from now, students of history will look back with amazement, wondering how Germany could have followed Hitler, and later how America could follow Obama.

Is it really the case that out of 350 million Americans, no better candidate is electable than a bastard stepchild who worships God by praying for our demise?

If the SCOTUS refuses to hear the case, it is more likely because Obama is a kook, but possibly a very influential kook, who they wouldn’t be able to remove from power even if they did hear the case.

IMHO, The more people ignore his negative points, the more powerful he will become and less power the people will have in controlling his arrogant behavior when he is at the helm.


39 posted on 12/08/2008 11:18:54 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

He is covering up his true birth details PERIOD.

I don’t care if he’s from Mars - except it’s an insult to honest martians everywhere.


40 posted on 12/08/2008 11:20:03 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

All most of us “conspiracy nutcases” what is for Zero to be ruled qualified to become president. I don’t even have to see the documentation. If the Court rules that, after examing the BC, he is natural born then so be it.

But when there is a concentrated effort NOT to produce this easily obtainable document and Obama lawyers up rather than do so then the Conspiracy Nut label should be applied to his bunch not constitutionally minded patriots.

If an EZPLICIT demand of the Constitution is ignored the document is de facto repealled.


41 posted on 12/08/2008 11:22:42 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Third, if the Supreme Court HAD taken the case, then MILLIONS of people born inside the US with one or both parents not being US citizens would no longer be considered US citizens.

Boy that would be news to me. Thank God you have no clue what you're talking about.

I was born in the US prior to my parents' naturalization. My parents had to wait 5 years to take the Oath, as was required by law and I arrived like year 2 of their waiting period.

Per the Naturalization Act of 1952 which was in effect at the time for both me AND Obama, I am a native born US Citizen, but not "Natural Born" because my parents were not yet citizens. I enjoy all the same benefits as any other natural born citizen, except I can not run for presdient.

Leo is correct in his premise. Obama is not eligible. Period.

42 posted on 12/08/2008 11:25:46 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: arrogantsob

Because too many people start with a flaw, they have a conclusion determined, then look for any evidence to support that conclusion. In this case, Donofrio had to go all the way to British Common Law to find his support because US law, specifically Title 8 which defines citizenship, doesn’t back him if Obama was born in Hawaii.


43 posted on 12/08/2008 11:26:22 AM PST by mnehring
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To: ctdonath2; BP2
"Turns out President Chester Adams had the same problem: he was born in the USA, but his father was British, and Chester went to great lengths to conceal this fact from public view - at the same time others were passionately pursuing his birth certificate. Question is ... why did Chester Adams go to to such great lengths, including outright forging & altering of documents, to conceal his father's citizenship chronology?"

That isn't exactly correct according to what I remember. Chester Arthur, 21st President, was the son of Irish immigrants to Canada who subsequently immigrated to the USA. Chester was supposedly born in Canada before his family arrived in the US. He allegedly "stole" his deceased younger brother's "identity" to falsely claim natural born status. So I've heard.

44 posted on 12/08/2008 11:26:40 AM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Please show us where you have seen any INFORMATION/DOCUMENTATION that Obama is natural born. Not just your opinion but something that Obama has steadfastly refused to produce. Why is almost everything about this guy hidden including such a basic document as this?


45 posted on 12/08/2008 11:27:09 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Papers!? Your buddy Obamascam never produced a single viable document that he was a legal and natural born citizen.

So we don’t need no stinking papers. The constitution is no longer viable.

The flood gates are now open to whom ever has the money and the votes to get elected.


46 posted on 12/08/2008 11:30:09 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Felipe de Jesus CALDERON Hinojosa & Schwarzenegger for US el presidente 2112!)
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To: Velveeta

The problem is US law doesn’t specifically state what “Natural Born” is, that term is vague. Donofrio is not correct because British Common Law doesn’t define US Citizenship standards, per the Constitution Article 1 Section 8- only Congress can define what are our Citizenship standards. Title 8 of the US code does define what citizenship is and doesn’t use the British Common Law or any other foreign law in its definition. In Obama’s case, if he was born in Hawaii and his mother was a citizen, then he is a citizen, no preconditions. The challenge comes in if he was born in Kenya because even if his mother was born in the US and a citizen, she may not have met the residency requirements of Title 8 to pass along citizenship (if her and Obama’s father where legally married, another bag of worms there.)


47 posted on 12/08/2008 11:31:45 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

He compounds his nonsense by claiming McCain is not natural born which turns law and justice on its head and confuses “natural born” with “native born” another obvious point.


48 posted on 12/08/2008 11:37:30 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Read it again, and try to understand it this time.


49 posted on 12/08/2008 11:38:38 AM PST by orchestra
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To: arrogantsob

At least we have gotten to the point here (for the most part) where use some critical thinking about these cases.. a couple of weeks ago, even the slightest question would have us branded as an ‘unconstitutional traitor’ (not to mention the threatening emails.)


50 posted on 12/08/2008 11:39:21 AM PST by mnehring
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