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A Few Reasons to Hate Christmas
12/16/08 | Jibaholic

Posted on 12/17/2008 8:14:14 AM PST by Jibaholic

  1. Christmas is really a pagan holiday to celebrate the winter solstice and the end of the harvast. Jesus was probably born in late September.
  2. Even if Jesus was born on December 25th, an orgy of materialism showing friends and family how much you love them is not an appropriate way to celebrate his birth.
  3. Many Christians recognize this paradox, hence the emphasis to "put Christ in Christmas." This means evening devotionals about the birth of Christ, special candles, and other rituals. Yet this has the effect of elevating Jesus' birth above his death and resurrection. Most Christians do not take comparable steps for Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday.


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1 posted on 12/17/2008 8:14:14 AM PST by Jibaholic
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To: Jibaholic

Why post this crap? Don’t you have a dog to kick?


2 posted on 12/17/2008 8:16:46 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Jibaholic

” showing friends and family how much you love them is not an appropriate way to celebrate his birth.”

So, you admit you know nothing of Jesus?


3 posted on 12/17/2008 8:17:14 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Jibaholic

I read the other day that they have determined that Jesus was born on June 17! Does it really matter? Jesus is the gift that God gave us to free us from sin. We should be giving Jesus to others so they might be free too!


4 posted on 12/17/2008 8:18:15 AM PST by Buddygirl
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To: Puppage

Threads like these make me hate Christmas.


5 posted on 12/17/2008 8:18:34 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Jibaholic

And the reasons to hate Christmas are ...?


6 posted on 12/17/2008 8:19:21 AM PST by neocon1984
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To: Jibaholic

What a load of adolescent nonsense! Stop being such a sanctimonious prig.


7 posted on 12/17/2008 8:20:01 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Jibaholic
It’s a pagan winter-solstice festival? Awesome. I can think of a Freeper I’d like to sacrifice right now. See if you can guess whom it might be.
8 posted on 12/17/2008 8:20:26 AM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Puppage
Don’t you have a dog to kick?

You don't want to go there.

Animal people get a bit touchy sometimes.

9 posted on 12/17/2008 8:20:31 AM PST by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Michael.SF.
Animal people get a bit touchy sometimes

So do Christians around this time of year.

10 posted on 12/17/2008 8:22:04 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Jibaholic
I heard the the fact that the shepherds while tending their flocks and that their were new lambs being born that Christmas was in the spring.

Christs birthday, it has been told, was celebrated by early Christians in Rome at the same time as the solstice, pagan celebrations so as to not bring undo attention to Christians, so as to keep them from being lion fodder in the various arenas.

The commercialization of Christmas is something that I truly dislike....

11 posted on 12/17/2008 8:22:19 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Jibaholic
There is so much to say here, what I really want to say is better left to a private conversation because I want to ....

Anyway, my experience with people who say what you have said are just to cheep to celebrate Christmas, so they use any excuse not to.

I give because Christ gave to me first. I celebrate His birth because without His birth there would not have been His death and resurrection.

I have pity on you this season, that there is so little joy in your heart.

12 posted on 12/17/2008 8:22:33 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Jibaholic

Hope you get that spell-checker you’ve always wanted for Christmas this year.....


13 posted on 12/17/2008 8:23:06 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!)
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To: Jibaholic

You know, it doesn’t matter when Christ was actually born. As Christians, we have the freedom to esteem one day above another, and if we want to recognize Christ’s birth on December the 25th, we have the freedom to do so.


14 posted on 12/17/2008 8:23:23 AM PST by mancini
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To: Jibaholic

The accuracy of these arguments is meaningless.

Christmas is when Christians choose to celebrate the Birth of Christ.


15 posted on 12/17/2008 8:23:47 AM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Jibaholic

Go to DU pal. You fit in better there.


16 posted on 12/17/2008 8:24:25 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Great patriotic stuff at www.patriotstore.us.)
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To: Jibaholic
Whatsamatter? People not paying enough attention to you? You have to bring out this pile of pretentious, narcissistic crap to call attention to yourself.

Poor baby. Get a life!
17 posted on 12/17/2008 8:24:35 AM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: Jibaholic

Dude, your burkha is wrapped too tight. You might want to loosen it some to get the air flowing again.


18 posted on 12/17/2008 8:26:14 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah! Kneel before Obamohammad!)
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To: Jibaholic

“Been there, done that.” The Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come

“Many laughed to see this alteration in him, but he let them laugh and little heeded them. His own heart laughed and that was quite enough for him. And it was always said of him that he knew how to keep Christmas well if any man alive possessed the knowledge.”


19 posted on 12/17/2008 8:28:21 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Hope you get that spell-checker you’ve always wanted for Christmas this year.....

That could very well be the BEST post this year, IMHO. LOL

I got a spell-checker last year.....and, as you can tell, it works.

20 posted on 12/17/2008 8:28:28 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Jibaholic

Geez, who peed in your Wheaties?


21 posted on 12/17/2008 8:28:49 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Jibaholic; Petronski

Every Christian holiday, without fail, brings out the kooks.


22 posted on 12/17/2008 8:28:56 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: Jibaholic

Actually it was a Roman holiday to Saturn, gifts, big meals, dress upped costumes.


23 posted on 12/17/2008 8:28:58 AM PST by SFR
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To: Jibaholic

Merry Christmas!!!


24 posted on 12/17/2008 8:30:40 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Jibaholic

As my daughter constantly reminds me: We shouldn’t “hate”.


25 posted on 12/17/2008 8:32:57 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Jibaholic

The Puritans, the first religious pilgrims to America, banned Christmas because of its pagan origins. I was trying to start a similar discussion about authentic Christianity, but apparantly most people do not want a discussion but would rather make personal attacks. I will bow out of the thread, but feel free to send me a private message.


26 posted on 12/17/2008 8:34:41 AM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: Jibaholic
Yo, Ebenezer Buzzkill, open a window and get some fresh air before you suffocate on your own sanctimony.


27 posted on 12/17/2008 8:35:48 AM PST by Viking2002 (Let's be proactive and start the impeachment NOW.)
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To: Jibaholic

I can add one: Kids are taught to believe in Santa Clause. These children eventually grow up to become Democrats.


28 posted on 12/17/2008 8:37:02 AM PST by LiberConservative (That temperatures are actually falling now illustrates how fast the world is warming.)
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To: Jibaholic
No you weren't.
For whatever reason this season brings no joy to you, for this I am truly sorry.
It would be my prayer that you are someday able to see through the materialism and commercialism of what has become of Christmas celebrations and reach into the joy this day can bring.

I give because Christ gave to me first.
I celebrate His birth because then I can celebrate the death and Resurrection.

29 posted on 12/17/2008 8:39:10 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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Merry Christmas, Jibaholic. Somebody needs a hug....here ya' go. :-)
30 posted on 12/17/2008 8:41:28 AM PST by Girlene (....and a Happy New Year)
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So go ahead and hate it. I supposed you will report to your job that day.

Is it okay if I celebrate it the way I like? Or do I have to do everything you do?

What a maroon...

31 posted on 12/17/2008 8:41:58 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: Girlene
Merry Christmas, Jibaholic. Somebody needs a hug....here ya' go. :-)

Well thank you!

32 posted on 12/17/2008 8:42:04 AM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: Puppage

LOL. Good point.


33 posted on 12/17/2008 8:42:07 AM PST by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Jibaholic

You’re very welcome, Jibaholic. :-)


34 posted on 12/17/2008 8:44:53 AM PST by Girlene (Merry Christmas)
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To: Jibaholic

35 posted on 12/17/2008 8:45:36 AM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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To: meowmeow
What a maroon...

LOL

What a tra la la boob di ay

36 posted on 12/17/2008 8:57:51 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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And Easter is from Ishtar, and Holloween is Samhain, and Labor Day was a commie invention to go have a picnic.

Listen, SURE it is overly commercial, but it is one day when kind words and Christian actions may demonstrate to others that when they want to be, His followers are different from the rest of the cruel beggers on this rock.

Cheer up and if YOU want to, go stand on a soapbox in the park and preach the Good News and get some real work done. Twenty minutes of saying "Jesus knows you personally and would love to help you get your life together through His free gift of Salvation" would be inifinetly more to the Glory of God than walking into the living room like you have and throwing down a dead carp just to see who will notice.

37 posted on 12/17/2008 9:00:52 AM PST by 50sDad (On the Left, compassion is measured by intent, not results.)
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To: LiberConservative
Kids are taught to believe in Santa Clause.

Believers in Santa Clause grow up to be grammarians who compulsively diagram sentences and lecture harmless passers-by on the correct cases for their pronouns. Believers in Santa Claws dress their pets in silly costumes and enter them in the Christmas Parade.

38 posted on 12/17/2008 9:00:55 AM PST by Tax-chick (What did the dog just eat?)
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To: 50sDad
And Easter is from Ishtar

That's where the name comes from, which is why I actually used the phrase 'Resurrection Sunday' in my original post. The celebration does not. Contrary to atheistic claims, Jesus' resurrection is not borrowed from pagan religions. It is very different from any of the ancient Mystery religions.

39 posted on 12/17/2008 9:09:29 AM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: Jibaholic

You don’t like they way I celebrate Christmas in my house?

There is a remedy for that....

You stay in your house.


40 posted on 12/17/2008 9:10:29 AM PST by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. =8^O)
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To: Jibaholic

Next, can you post “A few reasons to hate cute puppies”?


41 posted on 12/17/2008 9:11:44 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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1) It would be inappropriate to celebrate the gift of salvation at the time Christ’s death with gift giving, feasting and merry-making, so we do it Dec. 25th. Easter is a solemn victory memorial.

2) Dec 25 was chosen not because that was the actual birthdate, but because it was the timeframe when He was visited by the Magi and received the gifts. We exchange gifts to recognize this event and the greater gift of Emmanuel (God with us) that the Christ was now dwelling among men for a period of time. Christmas is a celebration that we are together, a family. It may represent the day that Christ was conceived of the Holy Spirit as some Messianic Jews believe, the actual birth taking place during the Feast of Tabernacles 40 weeks later.

3) God likes parties which is why He established feast days for the Jews.


42 posted on 12/17/2008 9:13:00 AM PST by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: Tax-chick

What about ‘Sandy Claws?’

Christmas is soooo fun.

Celebrating the birth of Christ and thanking God for his gift to mankind is true joy.

A few presents thrown in, a Christmas tree, and a nice meal are even better.

People who bah humbug, Merry Christmas!


43 posted on 12/17/2008 9:15:10 AM PST by mw19
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To: Jibaholic

ITA...Of all the holidays (holy days) in the Bible- God’s appointed times- that we are told to celebrate, Christmas is not one of them.


44 posted on 12/17/2008 9:20:32 AM PST by Reddy (VOTE CONSERVATIVE in '08!)
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ITA...Of all the holidays (holy days) in the Bible- God’s appointed times- that we are told to celebrate, Christmas is not one of them.


45 posted on 12/17/2008 9:20:37 AM PST by Reddy (VOTE CONSERVATIVE in '08!)
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ITA...Of all the holidays (holy days) in the Bible- God’s appointed times- that we are told to celebrate, Christmas is not one of them.


46 posted on 12/17/2008 9:20:41 AM PST by Reddy (VOTE CONSERVATIVE in '08!)
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To: sarasota
No, there are many things to hate.

And I do...........

47 posted on 12/17/2008 9:28:01 AM PST by Osage Orange (Congress would steal the nickels off a dead man's eye's...............)
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To: Jibaholic

And to this day some of us are not Puritans nor do we agree with them on this subject. My roots are English. My ancestors settled in MD and VA on land given them by Charles II as compensation for the attrocities they suffered, such as beheadings, under the Protectorate of your esteemed Puritans.

I come from a long line of mince tart eaters and intend to continue to do so in joy and love for my Lord who was born and died to set me free. As for celebrating Good Friday and Easter, you sure make sweeping judgements. Lighten up and have a mince tart.


48 posted on 12/17/2008 9:30:15 AM PST by kalee
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To: Osage Orange

I try to avoid it because I think it brings negativity into my life and may even empower the “hated” thing/person, etc.


49 posted on 12/17/2008 9:34:54 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota
I understand....

But surely you dislike many ideals, many groups, many lines of thought?

For instance...I hate the MSM/DBM...I think they are dangerous...and I truly hate them.

They could care less that I hate them......

FWIW-

50 posted on 12/17/2008 9:44:53 AM PST by Osage Orange (Congress would steal the nickels off a dead man's eye's...............)
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