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To: Jibaholic

The Puritans, the first religious pilgrims to America, banned Christmas because of its pagan origins. I was trying to start a similar discussion about authentic Christianity, but apparantly most people do not want a discussion but would rather make personal attacks. I will bow out of the thread, but feel free to send me a private message.


26 posted on 12/17/2008 8:34:41 AM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: Jibaholic
No you weren't.
For whatever reason this season brings no joy to you, for this I am truly sorry.
It would be my prayer that you are someday able to see through the materialism and commercialism of what has become of Christmas celebrations and reach into the joy this day can bring.

I give because Christ gave to me first.
I celebrate His birth because then I can celebrate the death and Resurrection.

29 posted on 12/17/2008 8:39:10 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Jibaholic

1) It would be inappropriate to celebrate the gift of salvation at the time Christ’s death with gift giving, feasting and merry-making, so we do it Dec. 25th. Easter is a solemn victory memorial.

2) Dec 25 was chosen not because that was the actual birthdate, but because it was the timeframe when He was visited by the Magi and received the gifts. We exchange gifts to recognize this event and the greater gift of Emmanuel (God with us) that the Christ was now dwelling among men for a period of time. Christmas is a celebration that we are together, a family. It may represent the day that Christ was conceived of the Holy Spirit as some Messianic Jews believe, the actual birth taking place during the Feast of Tabernacles 40 weeks later.

3) God likes parties which is why He established feast days for the Jews.


42 posted on 12/17/2008 9:13:00 AM PST by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: Jibaholic

And to this day some of us are not Puritans nor do we agree with them on this subject. My roots are English. My ancestors settled in MD and VA on land given them by Charles II as compensation for the attrocities they suffered, such as beheadings, under the Protectorate of your esteemed Puritans.

I come from a long line of mince tart eaters and intend to continue to do so in joy and love for my Lord who was born and died to set me free. As for celebrating Good Friday and Easter, you sure make sweeping judgements. Lighten up and have a mince tart.


48 posted on 12/17/2008 9:30:15 AM PST by kalee
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