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FORGET NATURAL BORN, IS HE EVEN A "CITIZEN" ?

Posted on 12/20/2008 6:31:35 PM PST by rocco55

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To: cripplecreek
The Michigan house of representatives recently passed a resolution that sidesteps the electoral college if signed into law.

Is that legal?

61 posted on 12/20/2008 8:07:10 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: tumblindice

Kindly address “Admission by Silence” in view of “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.”

It looks like remaining silent can be used against you and speaking can be used against you.


62 posted on 12/20/2008 8:07:20 PM PST by KrisKrinkle
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To: Kevmo

My purpose on this thread is the same as you: to voice my opinion, without consulting you first for permission.
Does that upset you? Good. We have not devolved into the Obamanation yet, so I can say or do as I please.

Lifetime appointments - so that they can be invited to the best cocktail parties and schmooze with the Left. You’ve heard their recent decisions: international law must be taken into account over the Constituion; McCain-Feingold-Thompson is now law of the land, for what that’s worth; among others.

REMF like me, eh? Better me than someone like you, just another Internet Rambo hiding behind his keyboard and my body armor. I call you coward.


63 posted on 12/20/2008 8:07:21 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Old Sarge

I do understand what you are saying and in many ways I agree. It will not happen in the way so many believe. It may not happen at all, and if it does it will not be anyone we actually like who starts it. They will be the poster children for who you don’t want your children to be. What happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge is an example. These are not admirable people and even if they, were they would not be portrayed that way in any media.

The conservative pundits will not back any group that rebels against the government no matter how illegitimate that government is. Those who do rebel are going to be utterly reviled by the majority of Americans and the ones who are willing to face that will be the first to break ranks. Fools, criminals, outcasts and losers are the ones who often start civil conflicts and revolts. So in fact some of the internet warriors you disparage may turn out to be part of those who do act. No one will really know until the day comes.

The military IMO will act against these domestic rebels who WILL commit atrocities. This is a civil war/conflict we are talking about and they are brutal and bloody affairs. The former Yugoslavia is the sort of conflict we are talking about with the rebels assigned the role of the villainous Serbs. The government will have the power, organization, internal security forces, and the military at its call. It will be a long drawn out and vicious affair and the ideals of those who begin it will likely mean much less by its end due to the course of events which will acquire a life of their own.

To avoid even the possibility of something like that every effort should be taken. I believe the court cases will ultimately fail and Obama will be sworn in regardless of what the constitution says. Too many people simply don’t care. If it is revealed afterwards that he is ineligible they will refuse to impeach him and will in all likelihood pass legislation to make their usurpation of power legal. Given that, I still think even a remote chance is better than none at all.


64 posted on 12/20/2008 8:07:49 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin
I believe the court cases will ultimately fail and Obama will be sworn in regardless of what the constitution says. Too many people simply don’t care. If it is revealed afterwards that he is ineligible they will refuse to impeach him and will in all likelihood pass legislation to make their usurpation of power legal.

That, I fear, will be the final outcome.

65 posted on 12/20/2008 8:11:07 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: autumnraine; Kevmo; Old Sarge

Good for you, autumnraine! You know what they say—lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.

Kevmo, an admission is admissable to prove the truth of the matter stated, with the issue being Obama’s qualification—or not—under Article Two of the US Constitution.
As a political matter, I think Rahm is advising Obama to “brazen it out” until he’s dug-in in the WH, having seen how difficult it is to blast a scoundrel out.

Sarge, don’t get your panties in a twist. I’m just saying, if you don’t want to buckle then stay the hell out of our path—don’t screw with our field of fire. Or just come right out, switch sides, go over to DU and join the Obama sheeple.


66 posted on 12/20/2008 8:11:27 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: frog in a pot

I have two ancestors (their children married) who signed the Bradford Accord....When that didn’t work they joined up. One served at Valley Forge the other at Fort Pitt....They were both young men, leaving wives, babies and crops in the fields to give me my freedom....

I’m too old and not well enough to fight, but I’ll certainly do what their love ones at home did....PRAY.


67 posted on 12/20/2008 8:11:41 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Old Sarge

PS I figured you were a REMF


68 posted on 12/20/2008 8:14:25 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: tumblindice

And I had you pegged for a coward, with the rest of your boyfriends.


69 posted on 12/20/2008 8:16:44 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

We’re or were being manipulated. Read this (and save to your hardrive):

(FYI Axelrod’s first job was writing for a small communist local paper in Chicago.

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/breaking-you-know-this-audiotape-is-bad-for-obama-really-bad-because-obamas-followers-got-dead-silent-all-of-a-sudden/#comment-12850


70 posted on 12/20/2008 8:18:40 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: hoosiermama

“I’m too old and not well enough to fight, but I’ll certainly do what their love ones at home did....PRAY.”

Your family history sounds wonderful. I have no doubt that under the right circumstances you would offer food and a warm bed.


71 posted on 12/20/2008 8:21:10 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: Old Sarge
Most of the population only cares that their Gubmint check shows up in the mail every month.

The term “We the Sheeple” is more factual than any of us would want to believe. The people in this country want to be ruled, not Governed. They proved it on November 4, 2008.

72 posted on 12/20/2008 8:23:44 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner.)
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To: little jeremiah

lj, is Old Sarge on your list of CoLB Trolls?


73 posted on 12/20/2008 8:24:13 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: so_real

ping for later


74 posted on 12/20/2008 8:24:33 PM PST by so_real
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To: rocco55

Searching for Obama and yearbook on Ebay finds only a highschool yearbook. Seems there should be somebody selling a college yearbook.


75 posted on 12/20/2008 8:25:33 PM PST by Jack Wilson
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To: rocco55
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.

Obama Grandmother audio: Barack Born in Kenya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlFc4wCpvSo

Obama Grandmother audio: Barack Born in Kenya


76 posted on 12/20/2008 8:27:47 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Old Sarge

So that’s all ya got, just a bunch of insults. Nothing of substance to contribute to the thread, like a typical Saturday night alcoholic who probably can’t think straight even when he’s sober. So we heard your opinion, everyone has one, just like everyone has an anal orifice and you happen to be one. You get to do as you please and I get to do as I please and the lurkers get to decide who is contributing positively to the thread. I notice that so far, all of the CertifiGate trolls won’t answer the stuff about the constitution and they sidestep the issue of what their motives are. What a bunch of wusses, needing the MSM to validate whatever should be thought today.


77 posted on 12/20/2008 8:29:25 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: tumblindice
Good for you, autumnraine! You know what they say—lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.
They always forget the fourth option: side on the sidelines and watch people make fools of themselves.
78 posted on 12/20/2008 8:36:00 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: rocco55

You know, modern pharmaceuticals have done wonders for a vast number of physiological limitations. Please think of this a PSA.


79 posted on 12/20/2008 8:42:55 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: rocco55
Barack Hussein Obama, the first Illegitimate Black Illegal Alien Anchor Baby President.

I might as well make it my tagline.

80 posted on 12/20/2008 8:51:21 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Barack Hussein Obama, the first Illegitimate Black Illegal Alien Anchor Baby President.)
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