Skip to comments.Ed Hale got the divorcee decree of Dunham vs Obama Sr.
Posted on 01/02/2009 1:16:10 PM PST by patriot08
Ed Hale of Plains Radio has secured a copy of the Dunham/Obama divorce decree as promised. He has registered this at the courthouse and has turned the document over to lawyers who are reported to be happy and enthused over the contents.
This is the first page. This is all that can be divulged at this time as those who have seen the decree are sworn to silence. You may hear information about it tonight on Ed's plainsradio show.
Attorney is refuting the authenticity of the Certification of Live Birth that was posted on FightTheSmears.com ...
he has got to be talking about Ann’s second divorce from Lolo
They were supposed to have traced it through an alias that Stanley Ann Dunham used
Timeframe + stupid comments + plus accusing others of being trolls = projection.
So, what’s yer DU screenname?
You’ve accused a bunch of long time Freepers of being DU troll sleeper agents.
So, put up or shut up.
This better be good. The Viking Kitties are in the bullpen.
You said — “America was warned about this ba$tard and did not heed the warning.”
And that’s what makes me think that Obama is God’s judgement upon America for its sins. You want to get rid of Obama? Well... get America to repent of her sins. That will probably carry a lot of weight with God. The Bible says that God forgives upon repentance.
Can’t get America to repent? Well..., look for Obama in office...
“Yeah, it sure backfired for the left. Now they’re stuck with the House the Senate AND the White House. Poor suckers! /s “
It seems to me that we probably have some FReeper who is a lawyer who could tell us the type of information that might be on the missing pages. It jumps from 7 to 12, and the 12th page is just a summation of the decree. Could 8-11 have more information or details on why the divorce was petitioned?
1986 modification to 1952 Nationality Act decreases time limit that Stanley Ann had to reside in the US from five years to two years, which would make her 16. However, there is not retroactivity that applies to Stanley Ann. Therefore the critical question becomes was he born on foreign soil or US soil ... if he was born on foreign soil, then he is not eligible ...
Okay listening to attorney and he just affirmed that if Obama was born on foreign soil - HE IS NOT EVEN A CITIZEN let alone natural born.
The flaw with that argument is that the black out is not on the original, it is on an image of the document. The original document is not altered. If the lawyer doesn't even address that, I would question his judgment. That is one of the most elementary mistakes some have had with the COLB conspiracy.
That's because no past president had his past so tightly sealed from public scrutiny. All past presidents had long-time family friends to vouch for the credibility of the family and candidate. Most presidential candidates had their family past very well documented, because they came from public families.
It's only Obama who has locked up all his childhood records, has no past friendships that he's willing to admit to, had no family that he allowed to talk to the press.
Yeah, the attorney must have read FreeRepublic—what three months ago?
The P.I. should refund the money.
Do you know if it is standard to attach a copy of a birth certificate to divorce documents if one parent is filing for custody?
Maybe there was a copy attached
I am not sure of the process but what you say makes sense to me. I am interested in following up with this EdHale stuff but am keeping an equally skeptical take on it as well. No smoking gun as of yet.
You don't know how happy I would be if that happens, I will gladly eat crow but I am not looking up recipes. This whole thing just sounds so much like all the documents that have been “uncovered” about UFOs, Bush etc etc. Also, I still believe that the Clinton mafia would have uncovered this LONG AGO
The mere registering of the birth of a baby with the Dept. of Vital Stats, even if it was a home birth, would generate a birth announcement in both papers. The announcement appeared in “The Honolulu Advertiser” on Sunday, August 13,1961 and in “The Star Bulletin” on Wednesday, August 16, 1961. The problem with the announcement is the address which was used. The home at that address was owned by Orland Scott and Thelma Lefforge Young.
The attorney is basically reviewing all of the information that we already know about Obama’s life ...
You’re slamming some long-standing and upstanding conservative freepers.
This whole Ed Hale drama *does* sound much like the API “wait until next week”, “wait until next week” game.
If she had NOT registered the child’s birth with nearest US Embassy would the Port of Entry register the birth?
Is it Mrs, Leading or Miss,Leading?
My, how defensive we are.
No, you don’t sound guilty of that.
He needs more money to find out.
How about the President who was born in Canada? Did he have to produce a birth certificate?
Oh..., I forgot to ask, “How come he was President?”
It has been debunked that Arthur was born in Canada
Hey pal, the ball is in your court, not mine.
That’s because no past president had his past so tightly sealed from public scrutiny. All past presidents had long-time family friends to vouch for the credibility of the family and candidate. Most presidential candidates had their family past very well documented, because they came from public families.
It’s only Obama who has locked up all his childhood records, has no past friendships that he’s willing to admit to, had no family that he allowed to talk to the press.
Precisely right!!!! Nothing ever adds up with Obama
That is me. Born overseas to U.S. parents who needed documentation from the embassy to get me into the U.S.
-— That’s because no past president had his past so tightly sealed from public scrutiny. All past presidents had long-time family friends to vouch for the credibility of the family and candidate. Most presidential candidates had their family past very well documented, because they came from public families. ——
This guy has too many secrets. He’s owned.
I don’t think so. I think she would have had to have gone to the office in Hawaii and register it. I think that’s what a Certificate of Live Birth is—not the real birth certificate.
I know I had one son born in another country and it was a real pain to get all the paperwork—original birth certificate, and then the little Certificate of Foreign Birth Abroad for his citizenship. The first was five pages long, and the second a half page. We made sure we got plenty of copies.
You had a president born in Canada? I didn’t know that. How can that be?
The birth certificates of any children mentioned in a divorce action aren’t attached to the filing but their full name, date of birth and place of birth are all mentioned!
Yeah the lead singer for Nickleback.
You said — “It has been debunked that Arthur was born in Canada”
Not true, there were persisting allegations that he was born in Canada. They just *couldn’t prove it*....
Now, does that sound familiar...?
In 1961, what would be the ports of entry?
I.E., which would have received travelers from abroad?
Ships or planes—where would Immigration have set up its receiving offices?
do you think there is any possibility that Obama was an operative? There is just so much secrecy about him...
That’s what I thought. Where are the missing pages?
You asked — “You had a president born in Canada? I didnt know that. How can that be?”
Well, there were “accusations” and there were “allegations” — but — no one was *able to prove it* — and thus, he became President...
Chester A. Arthur, 21st President of the United States.
Air not ship... Not enough time and remember she was kept from boarding the plane and returning before the birth due to her due date.
What airline were traveling back and forth from Africa at that time?
I was born is South America and always flew into Miami but there were many other ports on entry at the time,
Why is that relevant? Who are Orland Scott and Thelma Lefforge Young?
I do believe that the Clintonistas probably know Barry isn’t eligible by now, but I suspect that something made them think it would be more profitable (their usual ONLY motive) to sit on the info for a while.
I honestly think that the secrecy surrounding 0’s BC is just the tip of the iceberg. Just knowing his background and his past, and his communist mentor, racist radical pastor and anarchist associations tells me all I need to know about him.
Bottom line....this scandal is about to break wide open....
one way or another.
PS...as a part Cherokee I could probably provide you with a nice recipe for crow....but the PETA morons would probably be all over us both for bird abuse. (Big Brother is watching)
You said — “BLATHER”...
Yep, that’s exactly the problem with *allegations* that one *cannot prove*... Allegation are “blather”...
The allegations still persist to this day with Chester A. Arthur, the 21st President of the United States...
I think it helped turn up some things in a search, so it may have importance to the 'plumbers.'
sticker: If there were ANY TRUTH to the obama was born in Kenya bs, the Clintons would have plastered it all over the media long before barry became the media darling he is.
***That’s an invalid argument from silence. It assumes the Clintons had more resources and time and capability than we conservatives have had lo these last 5 months. It is an incredibly poor assumption.
sticker: This is no different than the 9-11 truthers or the Bush stole Ohio crap
***When I see 5 concurrent cases before the SCOTUS on either of those 2 issues, and 3 of those cases forwarded for conference with colleagues plus 10 more cases in the pipeline of the court system — that’s when I will grant you this moral equivalence. Until then, you’re just a loon arguing from silence.
lj: You are also making the comparison between nutcases who think Bush organized planes to crash into buildings with the fact that many - in fact, more and more each day - citizens are concerned that 0bama has hidden all his records so that there is no proof of where he was actually born or what kind of citizen he is, of what country.
***Good point. I think on the latest AOL Poll there have been 60k people (a strong majority) who say there’s something to this. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2156822/posts?q=1&;page=87#87
Questions for Sticker: When was the last time a 9/11 troother poll had such numbers? Do these results add credibility to our case or do they not? <-— very simple question, and if you’re a troll you won’t know how to answer it.
Kevmo - this guy is using the Truthers thing. Telling. I havent seen him before on these threads.
***Maybe he’s sticking his toe in the water.
do you think there is any possibility that Obama was an operative? There is just so much secrecy about him...
Who know? I doubt it. I don’t think he’s that smart.
My guess is she entered through Bellingham but knowing how lax the border was in the 60’s I doubt the birth was registered at the port of entry. I don’t really know but I do know that the port of entry would NOT keep the original Birth Certificate! They would have given her immigration paperwork to fill out and have stamped, but would have returned the birth certificate to her.
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