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Don’t Call it “Darwinism” [religiously defended as "science" by Godless Darwinists]
springerlink ^ | 16 January 2009 | Eugenie C. Scott and Glenn Branch

Posted on 01/28/2009 11:36:17 AM PST by Coyoteman

We will see and hear the term “Darwinism” a lot during 2009, a year during which scientists, teachers, and others who delight in the accomplishments of modern biology will commemorate the 200th anniversary of Darwin’s birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. But what does “Darwinism” mean? And how is it used? At best, the phrase is ambiguous and misleading about science. At worst, its use echoes a creationist strategy to demonize evolution.

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In summary, then, “Darwinism” is an ambiguous term that impairs communication even about Darwin’s own ideas. It fails to convey the full panoply of modern evolutionary biology accurately, and it fosters the inaccurate perception that the field stagnated for 150 years after Darwin’s day. Moreover, creationists use “Darwinism” to frame evolutionary biology as an ism or ideology, and the public understanding of evolution and science suffers as a result. True, in science, we do not shape our research because of what creationists claim about our subject matter. But when we are in the classroom or otherwise dealing with the public understanding of science, it is entirely appropriate to consider whether what we say may be misunderstood. We cannot expect to change preconceptions if we are not willing to avoid exacerbating them. A first step is eschewing the careless use of “Darwinism.”

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TOPICS: Education; Science
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To: tpanther
The culture war is between the ideology that’s hijacked science and Christianity.
 
 

NIV 1 Timothy 6:20-21
 20.  Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge,
 21.  which some have professed and in so doing have wandered from the faith.   Grace be with you.

421 posted on 01/29/2009 4:47:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: grey_whiskers

“I knew him well.”


422 posted on 01/29/2009 4:49:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CE2949BB
Free Republic could have been a major player in the political world, but JR decided to hand it over to the cretards and IDiots.


423 posted on 01/29/2009 4:52:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CE2949BB
It's been great, except the evolution and science threads.

You should sample the MORMON vs Christian threads! ;^)

424 posted on 01/29/2009 4:53:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Just mythoughts
You have the right to believe anything you desire, but you do not have the right to wall out the Creator from public education.

You mean the one mentioned along with certain inalienable rights?

425 posted on 01/29/2009 4:55:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: soroptimist
Evolution is a theory which explains the facts of human existance.

What great faith. I gather that you believe that that elusive transitional fossil will be found some day.

426 posted on 01/29/2009 4:57:38 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: soroptimist; ToGodBeTheGlory
I believe in one less dog than you do. I'm a buddhist. There is no glub, no heaven, no hell. Where does that leave me?

If you're right, no worse than us.

If you're wrong....you might as well enjoy yourself now.

427 posted on 01/29/2009 5:03:50 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
By the way, you never did answer what your degree was in, nor from which school.

Getting educational credentials from evos is like getting water from a rock.

428 posted on 01/29/2009 5:06:46 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I was SHOCKED when my doctor said:

“Open up and show me your uvula.”!


429 posted on 01/29/2009 5:07:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Go back to DC...or better yet, DU.

Kind of hard to distinguish sometimes, isn't it?

430 posted on 01/29/2009 5:08:29 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CE2949BB; Mr. Silverback
Right. Mark me as a liberal, so you don't have to face the fact that a lot of Republicans are sick and tired of the Christian fringe controlling the party.

I've voted for President Bush twice and I voted for Gov. Palin, but I must be a liberal troll from DU because I want to keep America from becoming a Christian Afghanistan.

Is paranoia a prerequisite for being an evo?

Is cm's ghost back already?

431 posted on 01/29/2009 5:10:12 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Wonder Warthog; JSDude1
We call it "religion" because it is. It certainly is not science.

So now what? Everything that's no science is religion by default?

432 posted on 01/29/2009 5:15:38 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Elsie

ROTFLMBO!


433 posted on 01/29/2009 5:17:01 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Coyoteman
"Eugenie C. Scott"

Oh interesting. Eugenie C. Scott was (and maybe still is) a member of the American Eugenics Society.

434 posted on 01/29/2009 5:30:52 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: metmom
We can stop using the term Darwinist and Darwinism when the evos stop calling creationism a religion.

We shouldn't. The terms have a long and well established history. There is no reason why marxist-monist-materialists should dictate our vocabulary. They like to proscribe and redefine commonly used terms (like 'ape' for example.) There is no reason to concede to such tactics.

435 posted on 01/29/2009 5:38:38 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: YHAOS
If that’s as far as you can see, then that’s as far as you can see.

That's as far as it goes here.

436 posted on 01/29/2009 5:40:21 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: CE2949BB; metmom
You’re a Creationist because of your religion.

And you are a Darwinian because you are a Randian atheist.

437 posted on 01/29/2009 5:41:01 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; Wonder Warthog
We can stop using the term Darwinist and Darwinism when the evos stop calling creationism a religion.

We shouldn't. The terms have a long and well established history.

Perhaps you can fill WW in on that. He seems confused about the origin of the term. I saw someone explain that just recently but don't recall who it was.

There is no reason why marxist-monist-materialists should dictate our vocabulary. They like to proscribe and redefine commonly used terms (like 'ape' for example.) There is no reason to concede to such tactics.

They like to redefine EVERYTHING, as is was evidenced by cm's homepage. You're absolute right.

If we can't define scientific terms, they can't define non-scientific ones.

438 posted on 01/29/2009 5:54:55 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee
"The Descent of Man" was published about a decade after "The Communist Manifesto." Darwin was trying to accomplish the same thing as Marx, just from a slightly different angle. Marx sought to destroy capitalism to create a form of atheism where the state was god, Darwin sought to destroy Christianity to create a form of atheism where the elite who ran the state were gods.

The philosophy of communism is dialectical materialism. All the major commies (Deitzgen, Lenin, Stalin, etc) have said that it is merely a developed form of materialistic monism. Materialistic monism is the pseudo-scientific philosophical crap we hear from the vocal faction of evolutionists on this forum. Both marxism and eugenics have similar goals: the destruction of Christianity being the main one, because neither system can succeed where there is Christianity. Darwinians have tried to sell eugenics as a replacement religion. That was one of Galton's strategies, as well as Julian Huxley's. Eugenists were (and are) all totalitarians, just like the marxists. Julian Huxley believed in labour camps for biological outlaws. You are correct when you speak of elites. Huxley's elites are "scientists". They will tell you what you can and can't believe:

in the Socialized State the relation between religion and science will gradually cease to be one of conflict and will become one of co-operation. Science will be called on to advise what expressions of the religious impulse are intellectually permissible and socially desirable, if that impulse is to be properly integrated With other human activities and harnessed to take its share in pulling the chariot of man's destiny along the path of progress.

--Julian Huxley, Religion as an Objective Problem.


439 posted on 01/29/2009 5:59:41 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: CE2949BB
"The public school system, which must educate children of parents who belong to many different faiths and none at all, must remain neutral."

Must remain neutral?! Have you been awake for any of the last 20 or so years?

This is the danger of growing up with MTV as your primary news source.

440 posted on 01/29/2009 6:00:47 AM PST by Sam's Army
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