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Don’t Call it “Darwinism” [religiously defended as "science" by Godless Darwinists]
springerlink ^ | 16 January 2009 | Eugenie C. Scott and Glenn Branch

Posted on 01/28/2009 11:36:17 AM PST by Coyoteman

We will see and hear the term “Darwinism” a lot during 2009, a year during which scientists, teachers, and others who delight in the accomplishments of modern biology will commemorate the 200th anniversary of Darwin’s birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. But what does “Darwinism” mean? And how is it used? At best, the phrase is ambiguous and misleading about science. At worst, its use echoes a creationist strategy to demonize evolution.

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In summary, then, “Darwinism” is an ambiguous term that impairs communication even about Darwin’s own ideas. It fails to convey the full panoply of modern evolutionary biology accurately, and it fosters the inaccurate perception that the field stagnated for 150 years after Darwin’s day. Moreover, creationists use “Darwinism” to frame evolutionary biology as an ism or ideology, and the public understanding of evolution and science suffers as a result. True, in science, we do not shape our research because of what creationists claim about our subject matter. But when we are in the classroom or otherwise dealing with the public understanding of science, it is entirely appropriate to consider whether what we say may be misunderstood. We cannot expect to change preconceptions if we are not willing to avoid exacerbating them. A first step is eschewing the careless use of “Darwinism.”

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TOPICS: Education; Science
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To: LeGrande
Are you trying to imply that something can go faster than the speed of light with your example? Please try and follow along, it really isn't that hard : )

I'm not implying anything, I'm saying that you are an idiot.

981 posted on 01/31/2009 2:43:32 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Fichori
You are incorrect.

You did ask me and several other people to get some books, but I never said I got a copy of any physics book.

You are correct, I confused you with mrjesse. Mrjesse is the homeschooler who picked up a physics book at the yard sale.

You have my sympathy for never having picked up a physics book. You really are missing out : )

982 posted on 01/31/2009 2:51:14 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: wagglebee
Are you trying to imply that something can go faster than the speed of light with your example? Please try and follow along, it really isn't that hard : )

I'm not implying anything, I'm saying that you are an idiot.

No refutation? Just a personal attack? LOL Another one bites the dust : )

983 posted on 01/31/2009 2:53:18 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande

Unlike God, light IS NOT omnipresent; therefore, there are constraints on light that were put in place by God.


984 posted on 01/31/2009 3:05:11 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: LeGrande
He is not omnipotent because he can't travel faster than the speed of light

An ominpresence has no need of travel in the corporeal sense.

An omnipotence, who created light, is not bound by any limitations of His creation.

985 posted on 01/31/2009 3:42:47 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: wagglebee
Unlike God, light IS NOT omnipresent; therefore, there are constraints on light that were put in place by God.

Light is EM waves of EM fields. EM fields are omnipresent too.

Are you confusing your God with EM fields?

986 posted on 01/31/2009 4:38:12 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Don’t forget that light IS NOT eternal — ALL light can eventually burn out, fires do, stars do and one day even the sun may.


987 posted on 01/31/2009 4:39:15 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: LeGrande; RegulatorCountry; metmom; Fichori

See what I wrote in 987. ALL light can burn out.

Worship of the Sun (light) is a hallmark of paganism. Are you certain that your are an atheist and not simply a pagan?


988 posted on 01/31/2009 4:41:52 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: RegulatorCountry
An ominpresence has no need of travel in the corporeal sense.

An omnipotence, who created light, is not bound by any limitations of His creation.

Funny, I looked into the bottom of my coffee cup and didn't see your god there? Why not, if he is omnipresent? I asked Dispater (Allah's drinking buddy) and he said that he last saw Jehovah partying over at Orion's place. They had some Vestal Virgins. Dispater think that they are too stuck up for his taste.

989 posted on 01/31/2009 4:50:52 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande
Funny, I looked into the bottom of my coffee cup and didn't see your god there? Why not, if he is omnipresent?

You didn't see your brain in there either, I take it.

990 posted on 01/31/2009 4:58:11 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: wagglebee
See what I wrote in 987. ALL light can burn out.

Are you confusing light with the chemical reaction of a burning match? No wonder you have been reduced to personal attacks.

Worship of the Sun (light) is a hallmark of paganism. Are you certain that your are an atheist and not simply a pagan?

I suppose I believe that light exists. Do I worship the Sun? I do enjoy a sunny, warm, day skiing.

Believing in ID is the mark of a Deist. Are you a Deist?

991 posted on 01/31/2009 5:02:14 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: RegulatorCountry
You didn't see your brain in there either, I take it.

Do you expect to see your brain in the bottom of a coffee cup? You have my condolences.

992 posted on 01/31/2009 5:05:07 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande

I’m pretty much done with you, at least some of the other Darwinists had a modicum of intelligence, you are basically devoid in that regard. Have fun with your coffee cup, I hope it brings you some sort of solace.


993 posted on 01/31/2009 5:05:27 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: LeGrande
Do you expect to see your brain in the bottom of a coffee cup? You have my condolences.

I have faith in a God that you haven't seen, LeGrande. And, that leads you to ridicule.

You have faith that you have a brain. Misplaced, imho, but faith you do have.

When did you see your brain last, if not in the bottom of your storied coffee cup? You're the one searching for God there.

994 posted on 01/31/2009 5:11:39 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: wagglebee
I’m pretty much done with you, at least some of the other Darwinists had a modicum of intelligence, you are basically devoid in that regard. Have fun with your coffee cup, I hope it brings you some sort of solace.

You were done when you were reduced to personal attacks. It just took it a while to sink in : )

995 posted on 01/31/2009 5:14:19 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: RegulatorCountry
I have faith in a God that you haven't seen, LeGrande. And, that leads you to ridicule.

What you really mean to say is that you have faith in a god that doesn't exist : )

You have faith that you have a brain. Misplaced, imho, but faith you do have.

Faith in my brain? Actually I think emotion trumps reason most of the time. Take your responses for example.

When did you see your brain last, if not in the bottom of your storied coffee cup? You're the one searching for God there.

You are right, I shouldn't have been looking for your God in the bottom of a coffee cup. I should have waited until I went to the loo.

996 posted on 01/31/2009 5:21:46 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande
You were done when you were reduced to personal attacks. It just took it a while to sink in

Intellectual lightweights like yourself generally think that they have somehow "won" a debate when the other person quits.

Enjoy the emptiness of your shallow existence.

997 posted on 01/31/2009 5:30:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: LeGrande
I should have waited until I went to the loo.

I'll leave you to your detailed study of evo scat. Perhaps it'll lead you somewhere. But, not to God. To your hitherto unseen brain, perhaps.

998 posted on 01/31/2009 5:32:27 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
I'll leave you to your detailed study of evo scat. Perhaps it'll lead you somewhere. But, not to God. To your hitherto unseen brain, perhaps.

So you finally admit that your God is not omnipresent? Great, my work is done for now : )

999 posted on 01/31/2009 5:38:32 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande
So you finally admit that your God is not omnipresent? Great, my work is done for now.

God is omnipresent, LeGrande. You just don't accept that. Studying your own droppings is not going to lead to anything other than reinforcement of the darkness you're already in.

1,000 posted on 01/31/2009 5:44:29 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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