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HP UK pulls Linux from all new netbooks
The Register ^ | 6th February 2009 12:17 GMT | James Sherwood

Posted on 02/08/2009 3:45:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

HP has decided UK consumers don't want Linux-based netbooks. Actually, it appears to believe business buyers don't want the open-source OS either.

It emerged today that the company will not now be bringing its Mini 1000 netbook to the UK - at least not with Linux on board.

Nor will it release the more business-oriented Mini 2140 with Linux.


HP's Mini 1000: no Linux option in the UK

HP already offers the Mini 1000 Vivienne Tam Edition, along with the Compaq 700, which is the Mini 1000 rebadged with the alternative brandname. The various versions of the 700 and the Vivienne Tam 1000 all come with Windows XP pre-loaded.

(Excerpt) Read more at reghardware.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hitech
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
> i’m waiting anxiously for Windows 7 to come out. My understanding is that it is everything that Longhorn promised to be (before it got castrated and turned into Vista). Much as i love Windows XP, my understanding is that Windows 7 is so far more stable and faster.

Win7 is NOT "everything that Longhorn promised to be (before it got castrated and turned into Vista". That major overhaul is waiting for (yet) another release.

The Beta of Win7 is indeed faster and may be more stable than Vista. It has many features removed and/or relocated to Microsoft's cloud service (Windows Live), to reduce its footprint. Most people who panned Vista seem to like Win7 so far.

System-wise, Win7 is essentially Vista with some fixes. Steve Ballmer said as much -- it's minor changes, not an overhaul.

51 posted on 02/09/2009 6:14:08 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Incorrigible
There are two scary things about that picture:

--The guy in the background with the beard and propellor cap

--Everybody seems to have the same hair color

Actually, it looks like a pretty neat event.

52 posted on 02/09/2009 6:31:32 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: papasmurf
Another thing I'd point out is that even if you do decide to do a clean install of Linux, it's much easier to keep your user preferences and user data intact. On my desktop, I have multiple disks / is a separate disk from /home, so I can do a full install of / without touching the /home partition. When I login after the upgrade, my desktop still has everything intact and where I left it before the upgrade. Can't do that with Windows because of registry crap.

At work, I have a script that backs up /usr/local, /home, and /etc to another server using rsync. This script runs daily, and takes about 3 minutes.  If, for whatever reason I need to recover my home directory (or any file or directory inside my home, it's a matter of a simple rsync command to bring me back to exactly where I was as of my last backup. 

Granted, I'm a power user so it's fairly easy for me to do this, but using the standard tools available with the operating system, I was able to do the same thing for my mother-in-law's laptop, and have it automated so she doesn't need to do anything to make it happen, and can drag and drop from my desktop to her laptop easily using konqueror and the fish:// protocol (which is just a bookmark in her browser to her). Also, because I'm backing up her homedir to my desktop, if she sits down there and logs in, it looks exactly like her laptop to her.

There is a lot of power available in Linux to do some cool things if you know what your're doing.

53 posted on 02/09/2009 7:45:49 AM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
Big deal. All HP is doing here is, instead of pre-installing Linux, it’s forcing customers to download Linux for free and install it themselves.

Well, and forcing them to shell out some about, say $25 for an OS they aren't even going to use.

54 posted on 02/09/2009 8:26:01 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Golden Eagle; B Knotts; dayglored
What we had was a (now admitted) Debian user complaining about all the versions that Windows users had to migrate through, which really isn't that many when compared to SuSE Linux another poster had already specificaly mentioned.

Actually, it's you trying to beat down an argument he wasn't making. Refer to his next post (after he said he used Debian):

Also, please note that I did not mention upgrades. I was referring to the unfortunate feature of Windows which results in having to occasionally reinstall it to get it to run right again.

55 posted on 02/09/2009 8:44:15 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: dayglored
Wasn't it Acer who reported the high rate of Linux netbook returns with their particular version of Linux? I read that the Linux version on the eee pc’s is popular, and that their returns are close to the number of XP one’s.

Have been running an eeepc 900 since last summer with Xandros using Celeron processor and 1gb ram. People who have used it comment that it's pretty fast, never complain. This OS & netbook have performed flawlessly, I'm impressed.

BTW, I used this netbook as a ‘test pc’ for Windows 7 Ultimate. It runs pretty smooth with the minimal processor. I think W7 is faster than vista and uses less resources. It seems to work well. I read that one of the 6 versions of W7 will be used for netbooks.

***The Beta of Win7 is indeed faster and may be more stable than Vista. It has many features removed and/or relocated to Microsoft's cloud service (Windows Live), to reduce its footprint. Most people who panned Vista seem to like Win7 so far. ***

56 posted on 02/09/2009 8:46:46 AM PST by msnpatriot
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To: Incorrigible

LOL thats great...


57 posted on 02/09/2009 11:05:00 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Golden Eagle

“Yes because Sun and Novell were the pinnacle of financial health before they got in the Linux Market.”

RedHat which is a Linux only company is doing just fine. IBM makes a good mint off of their Linux line of business as well. As always you confuse correlation with causation..


58 posted on 02/09/2009 11:10:02 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: dayglored

Thank you for being a such a good, loyal Microsoft customer for all these years.

I hope you’re also using Office 2007.

Are you in need of any Microsoft chochkas? T-shirts?


59 posted on 02/09/2009 11:29:51 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible
> Thank you for being a such a good, loyal Microsoft customer for all these years. I hope you’re also using Office 2007. Are you in need of any Microsoft chochkas? T-shirts?

Thank you for that laugh. Really truly, I laughed out loud.

Now please read this: http://www.freerepublic.com/~dayglored/, specifically the part at the bottom labeled: "Computer-tech Full Disclosure Section"

Oh, hell, here it is:

I participate in a number of tech (computer) threads, so to save the effort of posting a "Full Disclosure" comment in each one when somebody wonders where my comments or opinions are coming from, here's a summary of my tech background and creds:

I started as an audio electronics hobbyist in 1964, and was designing and building tube amplifiers by 1968 (for my elec. guitar). I entered college in 1970, learned Fortran and PDP8 assembler, earned a BS in Physics, and started working as an engineer designing microcomputers (hardware and software). I've never stopped since (that's 38 years of programming and 34 years of hardware engineering as of 2008).

During my engineering career, I've designed, built, programmed, and delivered spacecraft attitude control electronics, high-power multi-phase inverters, industrial process controllers, home computers and peripherals, and embedded controllers. Mostly I've worked for small companies, but I spent half a dozen years as an independent consultant and still do some consulting on the side.

Computer-wise, I used (and hacked) IBM-PCs starting in 1982; Macintoshes in 1984; got my first Unix system in 1985, learned C, and it's still my favorite language. Both BSD and Sys5 are like family. **I've used every version of Windows from 2.0 onward.** Built a network of Unix workstations in the early 90's. Started playing with Linux in the late 90's, built my first Linux workstation in 2001. Windows systems have provided my income more than any other. Had a break though -- designed and programmed peripherals for Mac OS-X systems starting in 2001.

I'm currently Director of System Administration for a software company with offices networked around the globe, and have learned a few things about security, though I don't consider myself an expert in that field.

I work every day -- and play at home every night -- in OS-X, Windows, Linux, NetBSD. I love 'em all, and I hate 'em all. I have them all running at home (mostly in VMware VMs) as well as in the network I administer professionally.

I don't take sides in religious tech arguments. OSes and hardware architectures all have their strengths and weaknesses. That said, OS-wise I'm more of a "Unix-head" than anything else. Hardware-wise, I prefer Apple's products (currently have MacBooks and Minis). That's subject to change, of course...

Really? ME??? A loyal Microsoft customer? Hardly. I've just run Windows for a long time. But I've run Unix and Macs for considerably longer.
60 posted on 02/09/2009 6:23:36 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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