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Itís Liam Neeson Vs Alec Baldwin On NYC Horse Carriage Issue
ecorazzi. ^ | Jan 20 2009

Posted on 02/14/2009 6:18:54 PM PST by dennisw

It’s Liam Neeson Vs Alec Baldwin On NYC Horse Carriage Issue

 

Filed under: animals — michael @ 2:12 pm

neeson_horsesLiam Neeson has taken issue with a proposed bill to ban the horse carriage business in New York City. The legislation aims to put an end to an industry considered cruel by some, including Alec Baldwin. Here’s a bit from the letter that Neeson wrote to the City Council:

“As a horse lover and rider, I am deeply disturbed by the unnecessary and misguided political and extreme rhetoric against the horse-drawn carriage industry and feel obliged to counter this action.”

“The horse-drawn carriage business is an iconic part of this city, employing hundreds of dedicated, hard-working men and women, caring for well-bred, well-trained horses and attracting tourists to New York City for over 100 years.”

“As a proud New York resident, I have personally enjoyed the beauty of Central Park on a daily basis for many years, and these horses are an undeniable integral part of that experience. The notion that a well-nourished horse pulling a carriage through Central Park is considered cruelty may fit in with animal activists’ extremist view, but not with the rest of us. Surely we have a responsibility to protect commerce, especially one with such history, and one I truly feel helps define this city. May pragmatism prevail.”

Last June, Alec Baldwin hosted an event for PETA to help raise money and awareness on the issue. “I don’t have a problem with the carriage trade,” he said. “If they remove all the cars in Manhattan, and build a farm with an acre of land for each horse to graze, I will invest my own money. Passions run high in this issue… It’s loud and vulgar because they know they are wrong.”

What do you think? Should the carriage industry continue or is today’s city life too much of a stress for these animals?

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17 Responses to “It’s Liam Neeson Vs Alec Baldwin On NYC Horse Carriage Issue”

  1. As a native new yorker, i have always disliked the carriage rides. i have seen the “trainers” be quite cruel to those horses and many of the horses look dirty and haggard. Amazing how liam can push for this to continue. easy for him to say, he’s not the horse. those horses are out there in all kinds of weather and it’s just not humane.



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"Taken" is agood film... this horse dispute gives some indication where Liam Neeson is at politically
1 posted on 02/14/2009 6:18:54 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Liam Neeson could kick Alec Baldwin's fat, no-talent ass.


2 posted on 02/14/2009 6:20:54 PM PST by Viking2002 (The Occupation has begun. God help America.)
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To: dennisw

I think being a relative of Alec Baldwin is cruel.


3 posted on 02/14/2009 6:21:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: dennisw

I agree with Baldwin. Horse drawn carriages in New York, Chicago or any major city are pretty much inhumane.


4 posted on 02/14/2009 6:22:04 PM PST by Krankor (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me.)
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To: dennisw
Agreed on Taken.

Well done edge-of-your-seat action film.

5 posted on 02/14/2009 6:23:52 PM PST by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. Now they're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: George Smiley

Agreed on Taken.
Well done edge-of-your-seat action film.
_____________________

I agree but Rotten Tomatoes gives only 40%. But it’s the number one movie so the proletariat has spoken


6 posted on 02/14/2009 6:26:10 PM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: Krankor

Two liberal ass-clowns fighting it out about horses in NYC. You’re right. Horses don’t like being confined in a city, they don’t like the noise, and there’s nothing for them to munch on along the way.


7 posted on 02/14/2009 6:33:01 PM PST by Paul Heinzman ("Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end; then stop.")
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To: cripplecreek

Having to drag big fat Alec in a carriage would be cruel to a horse.


8 posted on 02/14/2009 6:36:38 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: dennisw

9 posted on 02/14/2009 6:46:58 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: dennisw

We need Janet Reno. Remember, in order to save the children from a “cult,” she burned them to death.


10 posted on 02/14/2009 6:49:16 PM PST by bannie
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To: Krankor

Several years ago there was a push to outlaw horse-drawn carriage rides in Washington DC on grounds that it was inhumane to make the horses pull such heavy carriages. Friends of mine who owned such a carriage-driving business unhitched the horses from the carriage and pulled the carriage to Capitol Hill themselves, to show how easy it was for a well-cared-for 1200-pound horse to do.


11 posted on 02/14/2009 7:00:42 PM PST by ottbmare
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To: Krankor; dennisw
I agree with Baldwin. Horse drawn carriages in New York, Chicago or any major city are pretty much inhumane.

New York is an unfit place for animals, let alone for people.

12 posted on 02/14/2009 7:11:15 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: ottbmare
I worked for Chateau Stables in NYC for a number of years in the 1970's. The horses were very well cared for.
13 posted on 02/14/2009 7:13:11 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: dennisw

“As a native new yorker, i have always disliked the carriage rides. i have seen the “trainers” be quite cruel to those horses and many of the horses look dirty and haggard. Amazing how liam can push for this to continue. easy for him to say, he’s not the horse. those horses are out there in all kinds of weather and it’s just not humane.”

I guess she is a horse then...

Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.


14 posted on 02/14/2009 7:14:53 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: dennisw

I’m sure there must be some money in the porkulus bill to give each of these horses the acre Alec wants them to have. Maybe enough to build themselves some greenhouse gas emitting housed for themeselves too.


15 posted on 02/14/2009 7:15:36 PM PST by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: dennisw

freakshow of comments

man, I cannot imagine living on the UWS these days


16 posted on 02/14/2009 7:18:05 PM PST by wardaddy (I'm for Sarah. Nuff said, you either get it or you don't.)
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To: wardaddy

UWS?


17 posted on 02/14/2009 7:21:09 PM PST by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: CaptRon

Upper West Side I think (of Manhattan)


18 posted on 02/14/2009 7:26:35 PM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: CaptRon

I’m a longtime horseperson and I’ve been to NYC and seen the horses around Central park. Those horses are FINE!!!
They have better lives than a lot of people I know. Happier too. Quit drinking the Peta Kool-aid.


19 posted on 02/14/2009 7:27:53 PM PST by wndycndy (WE ALL MUST FIGHT TO RETAIN OUR RIGHTS AGAINST LIBERAL IDEOLOGY)
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To: Krankor

I think I agree a bit more with Neeson, but in the sense that horse-drawn carriages themselves are not cruel. Horses don’t belong on NYC streets which I wouldn’t even drive a car on, but one of the comments on the article suggested moving the carriage rides inside the park. Personally, I think that’s a good solution - inside Central Park wouldn’t have all the dangerous traffic, it’s still got plenty of roads and nice sights and famous locations for tourists to enjoy themselves, and it’s in general a pretty horse-friendly location.


20 posted on 02/14/2009 7:29:44 PM PST by Hyzenthlay (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: wndycndy

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh, I have ridden in those carriages several times and enjoyed them and saw the affection the drivers have for those horses. I hope you are not telling me not to drink kool-aid I have not drunk, nor have I said anything that should lead you to believe I agree with Mr. Baldwin.


21 posted on 02/14/2009 7:30:08 PM PST by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: George Smiley
I don't understand why the far left believes that animals should be treated like humans. (Well cared for humans at that)

Farm animals are not pets Horses are working animals. I bet that there aren't very many that just graze and frolic in the sun, without a real job, whether it is horse racing, or pleasure riding or drawing carts and carriages.
In colder climates, they grow a thick coat to protect them from the weather. Take a drive out in the country on a rainy day and see how many of these farm animals seek shelter. They are all out in the fields, with their backs to the wind, rain and sleet. To us, they look miserable, but to them it is just another day on the farm.

Liam Neeson will feel the sting of the far left, the ones that believe that it is their right to murder preborn human beings but demand the coddling of farm animals.

22 posted on 02/14/2009 7:37:48 PM PST by mckenzie7 ( mohammed = 666)
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To: mckenzie7

“I don’t understand why the far left believes that animals should be treated like humans.”

Because some of those people would like to have sex with the horses.


23 posted on 02/14/2009 7:40:54 PM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: dennisw

I’ve ridden the Mid-town.


24 posted on 02/14/2009 7:41:43 PM PST by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: George Smiley
Re: Taken, the phone call to the kidnapper will live on as a great moment in an action movie.
25 posted on 02/14/2009 7:44:22 PM PST by July 4th
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To: dennisw

Just don’t feed them Beefarino.


26 posted on 02/14/2009 7:46:33 PM PST by Moonman62 (I didn't compromise my soul to be popular. -- Jimmy Carter)
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To: Niuhuru

Because they believe humans are an evil virus that are not really part of the ecosphere.


27 posted on 02/14/2009 7:48:51 PM PST by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: dennisw
I liked Taken also. An ex-SAS guy name Mick Gould did the weapons and fight training for the film. After 20 minutes, non-stop action.
28 posted on 02/14/2009 7:53:27 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: July 4th

Not to mention the way it’s brought back into the plot later in the movie.


29 posted on 02/14/2009 7:54:05 PM PST by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. Now they're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: mckenzie7

Too many Disney movies with their associated anthromorphism.


30 posted on 02/14/2009 7:54:57 PM PST by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. Now they're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: Soothesayer

Horses outdoors in all kinds of weather is inhumane?

Really?

I guess we should kill them all then.


31 posted on 02/14/2009 8:00:53 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Hyzenthlay

Tell that to the new york cops on horseback.


32 posted on 02/14/2009 8:02:46 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Pharmboy

Taken was merciless on the bad guys and some of the bad guys were Muslim and they were immigrants. So very politically incorrect

I liked when he shot the French intelligence guy’s wife in the shoulder to show he meant business and to force Frenchie to help him locate the sex slavery bosses


33 posted on 02/14/2009 8:07:32 PM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: CaptRon

Of course they see themselves as God so they don’t count of course.


34 posted on 02/14/2009 8:14:55 PM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: dennisw
Alec is just worried that he'll get mistaken for a horse while in NYC and get hitched up to a wagon.
35 posted on 02/14/2009 9:11:44 PM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: Krankor

Really? Are you talking about large cities or small cities? We have cops riding horses in downtown Ogden, Utah! My Dad knows one of them. He’s (the cop that rides horse)has been riding horses on his job for a number of years now. He got some others to join him. It’s easier to get around some places in the city better than in police cars.

He’s very good and kind to his horse, and they all are. They have a special corral they take them to when not riding them. (or maybe they have their own, I’m not sure)But they ride them in parades and other events occasionally. Ogden is a large city, but not as large as New York by far. This cop and his horse are a team, and the horse is very well cared for, and trained!

I wonder what some people would do if they couldn’t drive anymore for some reason? What would their ancestors have done? Walk everywhere? What if it got so expensive to drive or ride, and there was no other way to get around?


36 posted on 02/14/2009 10:29:59 PM PST by dsutah
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To: mamelukesabre

I honestly haven’t seen them outside of Central Park, either, although they seemed to be pretty plentiful inside the park the last few times I was there. I’ve seen them in news footage and stuff before, but always as crowd control at large gatherings. So, I suppose I should say horses in general don’t belong where people on foot don’t belong...


37 posted on 02/15/2009 6:51:45 AM PST by Hyzenthlay (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: CaptRon; dennisw; wtc911
I had residence on the Upper West Side at several locales from 1980-85 then moved downtown ...Union Square and back up to Yorkville east before leaving for good for Miami in 88.

Upper West Side has always leaned left due to Columbia and Barnard (where my girlfriend taught).

Many of the cafes along Broadway and Amsterdam had seen their day in the 60s with radicals and Beats droning on and on with bullshite but by the 80s they were fairly dormant...Shakespeare Books was always a hang out for lefties (any bookstore is like that today) and the two Teacher's cafes were known for radicals to be seen sipping coffee and chattering but in my day more Upper West Siders were busy birthing today's leftist youth and were less involved politically and more so with work.

Anyone curious should see that video of the pro McCain folks walking down Columbus....last September.....unbelievable how bad it is now.

Columbus Ave March Here

New York seems nothing like I remember...

38 posted on 02/15/2009 10:00:05 AM PST by wardaddy (I'm for Sarah. Nuff said, you either get it or you don't.)
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To: wardaddy
I was on Columbus Ave yesterday. The wife and I took a four mile walk through Central park and ended up with a Valentine's Day dinner at an Asian place on the corner of Columbus and 70th (in the 70s-80s it was the Cantina, a pretty good Mexican place).

Dinner for two with drinks (Oban on the rocks for me and some rum concoction for her) and we left with $150.00 out of pocket. The place was full as was every other restaurant along Columbus and down to Lincoln Center. If there's a recession in NYC you sure couldn't tell. The waitress said that it wasn't V-Day, every weekend is the same.

As for the people, yeah, I wanted to slap the snot out of most of them. I could write volumes about the changes since I lived there (back when it was called the Wild West).

39 posted on 02/15/2009 12:28:19 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wardaddy
Oh, btw....

There was a line of at least twenty couples on CPS waiting their turn to hire a carriage.

40 posted on 02/15/2009 12:29:58 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: CaptRon

Sorry, my post was not directed at you. I just meant to post on the topic in general.
My apologies for the misunderstanding.


41 posted on 02/15/2009 1:11:45 PM PST by wndycndy (WE ALL MUST FIGHT TO RETAIN OUR RIGHTS AGAINST LIBERAL IDEOLOGY)
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To: wtc911
There was a line of at least twenty couples on CPS waiting their turn to hire a carriage.

I love it!!  Valentines day and all
42 posted on 02/15/2009 3:18:35 PM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: wardaddy

You were there the same time ‘Bama and Bill Ayers were. Anyways....for you and you wife Valentines

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqViJyweNV0


43 posted on 02/15/2009 3:20:41 PM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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