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A Dream Forever Stolen
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| March 2 2009
| Scotsman
Posted on 03/02/2009 8:55:57 PM PST by Scotsman
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To: mysterio
mysterio, you're right ...
... this too shall pass.
But what will be left?
I am intrigued by matched pairs of electrons, I think, that transmit information over distances instantly. Matter transmission is a ways off from what little I hear. Heard about a series of experiments using light waves/particles to transmit information across time also.
Baby steps.
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posted on
03/02/2009 10:03:43 PM PST
by
Scotsman
To: Scotsman
I agree, the war on poverty paradoxically creates and establishes poverty.
I think strengthening and defending the nuclear family is the best antidote to poverty there is.
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posted on
03/02/2009 10:10:10 PM PST
by
Marie2
(Ora et labora)
To: Hoosier-Daddy
H-Daddy ...
... imagine Space Prospectors mining the Asteroid Belt, Space Guard units corralling comets and retrograding their orbits to crash into Mars, adding precious water to the planet's atmosphere, terraforming it into a vibrant colony of mankind.
The moons of Saturn covered with ice, possibly with liquid water beneath, and life waiting for us to find it. Who knows what medical cures live within that life. There is a celestial jungle out there with wonders we can only feebly imagine.
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posted on
03/02/2009 10:15:28 PM PST
by
Scotsman
To: Windflier
Windflier, forty years is just a hiccup ...
... for Mankind.
For one Man, it can be an eternity.
Thank you. I'm grateful that it touched you. If I did it right, you will remember the visions it brought out in you at random times in the future, at key points when you are thinking back into the future that never was but could so handily yet be.
:)
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posted on
03/02/2009 10:23:26 PM PST
by
Scotsman
To: Scotsman
Truly! I do envision miners shooting a stream of heavy metals towards Earth for harvesting; Helium-3 on the Moon’s surface. But, ultimately, it will come from intrepid explorers willing to take the risk. It’s in our DNA. MAN, wouldn’t it be great?
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posted on
03/02/2009 10:31:40 PM PST
by
Hoosier-Daddy
("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
To: Scotsman
...forty years is just a hiccup ... for Mankind. For one Man, it can be an eternity. This may not be real to you, but I'm going to say it anyway.
You will be there.
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posted on
03/02/2009 10:39:20 PM PST
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: Hoosier-Daddy
H-Daddy, what a glorious sight it would be ...
... to stand on an asteroid and see the cold, neon blue glow of distant Ion Drive cargo ships as they plow the solar system's shipping lanes, delivering the building blocks of civilization to inner orbits and returning with supplies and Space Farmers ...
... :)
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posted on
03/02/2009 10:59:12 PM PST
by
Scotsman
To: Windflier
Windflier,
I'm grateful, thank you.
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posted on
03/02/2009 11:00:10 PM PST
by
Scotsman
To: Scotsman
Good post!
As an enthusiastic member of the Science Fiction Book Club (circa 1968 - 1971) and a devourer of every Robert Heinlein book, I share your sentiments more than you can know.
FRegards,
LH
To: Scotsman
At the turn of 2001 I wrote something similar. 2001 and it had little in common with the movie. I use to worry if we'd manage to get people living off this planet before we slipped back to some new dark age. I still do.
The hope I believe lies in automation, machines that can not only make copies of themselves but which can be reprogrammed from afar to do other things. That would make living in space not only cheap but profitable.
Reaching for the stars is still only a wish but the solar system is tantalizingly close to becoming a fresh home. I dream of seeing a new America reborn out there in our solar system free of the collectivist swamp of earth bound Obamanations.
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posted on
03/02/2009 11:27:14 PM PST
by
Nateman
(FUBO and the Alinsky you rode in on!)
To: Scotsman
That was very well written.
Your writing style compels the reader to continue, and begs one to step into their own memories, looking back through the years for like dreams, like moments, like feelings of excitement, innocence and peace. At least it did me.
Seems we have traveled down a few of the same roads. I am 60, and while I don’t like this ‘getting older’ part of life, going through it reminds me daily of how very fortunate I have been, to live in a time and experience.... that others may never see.
My body will not allow me to be the warrior I once was, but I have the strength of ten men within me and I would gladly fight, again, so that younger eyes may see and live their dreams.
I still dream though. It’s easy to find more dreams... by simply looking into the eyes of my grandchildren.
As for that wonderful sight of the stars, that precious moment with your dad so many long years ago, you will see it again. This time you will be looking from the other direction, that is all. It will be just as beautiful, just as inspiring, just as vast and he will again be by your side.
Good night.....
Gator
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posted on
03/03/2009 12:05:42 AM PST
by
Gator113
("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
To: Scotsman
N-Man, in the last half of the last century, about the only entities that had the wherewithall to reach the Moon, and even on to Mars, was government.
True, I think it would have been very tough for a private entity back then to be able to "get it together" for such a feat. You would need the resources of the USA or USSR to tackle it.
Of course, back then, most people lived in social isolation - the only news was on the radio, and as it grew, broadcast TV, and of course, newspapers.
I remember back then, well the 1970's, most people got their news in the morning, sometimes at noon and the evening with the local news recap at bedtime. I remember watching the Moon landing on our 1959 black & white Philco. Come to think of it, there is an entire generation of adults that never, ever saw a man walk on the Moon live on TV.
Even telephone calls beyond a few tens of miles were considered long distance and were to be avoided except for truely important things like births and deaths and such like.
I know, because they cost a lot. I've always remembered "touch tone" phones, in fact, the Pittsburgh area was a test market for "touch tone" as early as 1959 or so. It started in Greensburg and Crafton, PA I think and went from there. I sometimes remember long distance calls when satellites became in use, there were times you can hear yourself in an echo.
Now - or rather at some indefineable point in the future, maybe private enterprise can do a better job. I would prefer that to government, after the last fourty years.
Agreed. I'd like to see some private venture to Mars that is beholden to no one, maybe we can clear up and get to the truth about things like the Face on Mars and so on.
Tagline dittos, too. :)
I like it. I'm in a role playing game group and the guy who runs the game I'm in came up with that one.
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posted on
03/03/2009 7:26:20 AM PST
by
Nowhere Man
(Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
To: Scotsman
Nutz. Show me how the War on Poverty could even CREATE a new orange drink.
True. At least some of the "make work" projects made by Hoover and FDR did have some benefits like Hoover Dam and other infrastructure or even again getting back on topic, the space program. At least those created some wealth in a round about way.
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posted on
03/03/2009 7:28:35 AM PST
by
Nowhere Man
(Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
To: Nateman
At the turn of 2001 I wrote something similar. 2001 and it had little in common with the movie. I use to worry if we'd manage to get people living off this planet before we slipped back to some new dark age. I still do.
I do believe we are in such a race, we need to get out there before we manage to whimper out or blow ourselves up. We managed to forge ahead and then we retracted and stagnated, even in some cases, fell backwards. I fear we might be losing this race. I can see maybe a new civilization thousands of years from now landing on the Moon and wondering about our artifacts there, that is, if the chain of history is broken. Red China orbits a man in space, big deal, the Soviet Union and United States did that 40 years prior to that and with vacuum tube and discrete transistor technology.
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posted on
03/03/2009 7:34:35 AM PST
by
Nowhere Man
(Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
To: Scotsman
Well written....reminds me of the opening quote from
Gods and Generals...
"A human life, I think, should be well rooted in some area of native land where it may get the love of tender kinship from the earth, for the labors men go forth to, for the sounds and accents that haunt it, for whatever will give that early home a familiar unmistakable difference amidst the future widening of knowledge. The best introduction to astronomy is to think of the nightly heavens as a little lot of stars belonging to one's own homestead."
- George Eliot
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posted on
03/03/2009 7:36:28 AM PST
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: Nowhere Man
America go to Mars? NOT! With the dumbing-down of our schools, there isn’t enough brain power to pull off such a feat. A friend is a physicist in the aerospace industry, and he’s disgusted at the caliber of PhDs that are coming in to the workforce.
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posted on
03/03/2009 7:39:23 AM PST
by
MayflowerMadam
("Freedom" is just another word for "nothing left to lose".)
To: All
Your comments are all appreciated greatly.
Thank you.
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posted on
03/04/2009 5:33:35 PM PST
by
Scotsman
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