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The underlying agenda of climate policy - These quotes will AMAZE you

Posted on 03/07/2009 10:59:33 AM PST by mporter345

These people are deadly serious and have more influence on public policy in our country than ever before.

“We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts…Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.” - Dr. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports

“We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” - Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation

“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” - emeritus professor Daniel Botkin

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis…” - David Rockefeller, Club of Rome executive member

“The emerging ‘environmentalization’ of our civilization and the need for vigorous action in the interest of the entire global community will inevitably have multiple political consequences. Perhaps the most important of them will be a gradual change in the status of the United Nations. Inevitably, it must assume some aspects of a world government.” - Mikhail Gorbachev, State of the World Forum

“I envisage the prinicles of the Earth Charter to be a new form of the ten commandments. They lay the foundation for a sustainable global earth community.” - Mikhail Gorbachev, co-author of The Earth Charter

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?” - Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

“The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.” - Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund

“Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” - Professor Maurice King

“Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it.” - Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute

“The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.” - Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

“Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.” - Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University

“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

“A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.” - Prof Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb

“I don’t claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the cull to the size of the surplus population.” - Prince Philip, preface of Down to Earth

“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” - Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor

“… the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion.” - Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind

“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.” - Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund

“I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.” - John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming

1 posted on 03/07/2009 10:59:34 AM PST by mporter345
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To: mporter345

Fools, communists, socialists, and madmen.


2 posted on 03/07/2009 11:02:27 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: mporter345
Insanity and self-loathing on a grand scale. But this quote was particularly stupid:

“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

Does this fool not understand that in the modern, industrialized world, huge swaths of land are set aside and threatened animals are protected? Does he not know what happens to ALL animals in the "Utopia" of the unindustrialized Third World?

They're eaten!

Sheesh...

3 posted on 03/07/2009 11:09:17 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: mporter345

“All people are evil. Except us, of course.”


4 posted on 03/07/2009 11:10:22 AM PST by LiberConservative
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To: mporter345
I wonder if they realize implementing such genocide is a real war crime?
5 posted on 03/07/2009 11:15:11 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: mporter345

Four words for these “leaders”.

A Leader goes FIRST.

Hypocrites of the highest order.


6 posted on 03/07/2009 11:17:30 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: mporter345

They don’t see mankind as part of the ecosystem, or of bringing any benefit to the world. Instead, we are invaders, evil. They, of course, are something different from the rest of us because they are enlightened.

Arrogant, hopeless idiots. How can anyone listen to them? How can anyone put them in positions of influence?


7 posted on 03/07/2009 11:18:05 AM PST by Rocky
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To: mporter345
These quotes will AMAZE you
Have you been asleep?
Oh, 11-9-08...never mind.
That coffee is finally kicking in, eh?
8 posted on 03/07/2009 11:36:13 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Westbrook

lets see them rid the world of themselves as excess population.


9 posted on 03/07/2009 11:39:15 AM PST by plain talk
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To: mporter345
Something that has been around for a while and might give you something else to think about...AL GORE, THE UNITED NATIONS, AND THE CULT OF GAIA

P.S. Just keep hitting F5, or refresh, until it comes up.

10 posted on 03/07/2009 11:41:14 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: mporter345

Do have any sources?


11 posted on 03/07/2009 11:42:10 AM PST by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: mporter345

bookmark


12 posted on 03/07/2009 11:54:26 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: mporter345
what is stopping them from killing their selves to get rid of some of the pollution.
13 posted on 03/07/2009 11:57:16 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: mporter345

Everyone of these people should be insitutionized


14 posted on 03/07/2009 11:58:38 AM PST by Popman (One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three is a Congress - John Adams)
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To: Osage Orange; mporter345
This site...

...seems to have most, if not all, of them though they don't appear to be in the same order. I haven't looked that closely.
15 posted on 03/07/2009 12:03:40 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Osage Orange
Maurice Strong
“Isn’t it the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

Source: Environmental Overkill, by Dixy Lee Ray with Lou Guzzo, 1993, page 11. Also: “Our Life & Times,” Media Bypass Magazine, June 1996, page 57. Also: “Toward Global People Control: The United Nations’ Grab for Americans’ Property, Children, and Firearms,” The McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, page 1.
Hardcopy: Copies of the source documents.
Where: In an interview with Jim Johnston for the British Columbia Report, May 18, 1992, Vol. 3, No. 37, page 22. When: May 18, 1992.

16 posted on 03/07/2009 12:11:43 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Osage Orange
A well linked site for the Club of Rome quotes...

You know, even somebody with the most rudimentary Internet skills can find these quotes if they really wanted to.

17 posted on 03/07/2009 12:18:43 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: mporter345

It would be nice to attribute a date to those quotes. I’m going to look a few up.


18 posted on 03/07/2009 12:19:46 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: mporter345
“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

One of my main goals is teaching others that "it's" is only used for "it is."

Apostrophes : What did they ever do to you? Stop apostrophe abuse today!
19 posted on 03/07/2009 12:21:27 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Osage Orange
Stephen Schneider
Lying is OK if it’s effective.

“[W]e have to offer up scary scenarios [about global warming and destruction of the environment], make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts one might have . . . . Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”

Source: Trashing the Panet, by Dixy Lee Ray with Lou Guzzo, 1990, page 167. Also: The News Manipulators, by Reed Irvine, Joseph Goulden, and Cliff Kincaid, pages 296-297.
Also: "Hot and Cold Running Alarmism," by Gary Benoit, The New American, December 8, 1997, page 20. Also: Global Governance, by Henry Lamb, page 118. Also: Global Governance, by Henry Lamb, page 88. Also: Brave New Schools, by Berit Kjos, 1979, 1980, 1982, page 120. Also: "Scary Scenarios, Oversimplification Highlight Environmental Curricula," by Berit Kjos, Media Bypass Magazine, June 1996, page 10. Also: The Limbaugh Letter, December 1997 page 14. Also: The AIM Report, September-A 1996, page 1.
Hardcopy: Copies of the source documents.
Where: During an interview for Discover magagzine. Schneider wrote the book Global Warming in 1989, 13 years after he endorsed Lowell Ponte's book The Cooling. When: October 1989.

20 posted on 03/07/2009 12:31:30 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Osage Orange

Shall I keep going?


21 posted on 03/07/2009 12:32:11 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Osage Orange
Michael Oppenheimer
We must impose a low standard of living on the world.

“[T]he only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States: We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are. And it is important to the rest of the world to make sure that they don’t suffer economically by virtue of our stopping them.”

Source: “Environmental Quotes,” Freedom Alert, September/October 2001, page 13.
Hardcopy: Printout of 10-22-01 webpage and 12-3-01 webpage that posted the quote.

22 posted on 03/07/2009 12:35:36 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Osage Orange
Paul Ehrlich
“Giving society cheap, abundant energy . . . would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.”

Source: “Match the Quotes,” Resource Roundup, March 2002, page 8.
Hardcopy: Printout of 6-10-02 webpage with the quote.

I'm pretty sure you get the idea now. Have fun finding the sources on your own, 'cause they are out there. Most folks are just too lazy to add 'em.

23 posted on 03/07/2009 12:40:34 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Osage Orange
BTW, that particular page is...List of Liberals
24 posted on 03/07/2009 12:41:48 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Osage Orange; mporter345
Another non-lazy site...

SAY WHAT?!?!?!? for 2008
(archives, left side, scroll down)
25 posted on 03/07/2009 12:51:44 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: mporter345; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

26 posted on 03/07/2009 12:54:55 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Yo, Washingtonians, the American people called. They DEMAND their country back.)
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To: Westbrook

Four words for these “leaders”.

A Leader goes FIRST.

Hypocrites of the highest order.

>>>>>>>>

Absolutely right on. Any environmentalist who does not commit suicide is a liar and a fraud.


27 posted on 03/07/2009 1:01:48 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: philman_36
Shall I keep going?

All you've provided are second-hand sources.

For example, the only sources listed for the Stephen Schneider quote, which is the most damning quote there and the one I would most like to throw in the libs' faces, are a book in which the quote was used (but not where it was originally written), the Limbaugh letter which used the quote, the New American magazine which used the quote, etc. In other words everything but the original source of the quote.

I do see a claim that Schneider made the statement during an interview with Discover magazine -- but which issue? I doesn't say, which seems strange. Or if the statement was only spoken at the interview but never published, what documentation exists of what he said? It isn't provided.

Unfortunately, without solid citations, these quotes are not very useful.

28 posted on 03/07/2009 1:20:23 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
All you've provided are second-hand sources.
No, I provided a couple of websites that had sources there. I would suggest you take your complaints to them, not me.
...are a book in which the quote was used (but not where it was originally written)...
How about this...You buy the book, turn to page 167 and see if there is a footnote. Get back to me. OK?

Trashing the Planet
Title: Trashing the Planet: How Science Can Help Us Deal with Acid Rain, Depletion of the Ozone, and Nuclear Waste (among Other Things)
Author: Dixie Lee Ray, Louis R. Guzzo
Publisher: HarperCollins
Date Published: April 1992
ISBN: 0060974907
LOCN: TD174.R39 1992
Dewey: 363.73 20
Pages: 206
Footnotes: 210

29 posted on 03/07/2009 1:37:05 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Dude...!!

Thanks!

30 posted on 03/07/2009 1:38:59 PM PST by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: philman_36
Okay...wise ass.

Thanks again.........

31 posted on 03/07/2009 1:40:03 PM PST by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Yardstick

If you want to be really sneaky you can look at the book in a book store before you by it and if it doesn’t have a footnote then you’ll save a few bucks.


32 posted on 03/07/2009 1:41:32 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Osage Orange
Okay...wise ass
I'm on a roll. What can I say. I've been captioning pictures today and my funny bone is still engaged.

Thanks again.........

One is glad to be of service.

33 posted on 03/07/2009 1:46:35 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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No worries....I’m a wise ass at least once a day.


34 posted on 03/07/2009 1:48:53 PM PST by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: philman_36

You provided some links to sites with nothing but second-hand sources.

Gee thanks.


35 posted on 03/07/2009 2:28:35 PM PST by Yardstick
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You provided some links to sites with nothing but second-hand sources.
As I stated earlier, take your problems up with them, not me.

Gee thanks.
You're quite welcome.

36 posted on 03/07/2009 2:34:07 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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But my problem isn’t with them, it’s with you.

A poster asked if you had sources, and you acted like he was a dolt for not finding them himself. You implied that he was lazy and lacked even “rudimentary internet skills”.

Then, I guess to prove your point, you posted a hundred and one links to sites that you apparently thought had sources. But in fact they have no actual sources, only secondary sources like articles from NewsMax.

And so we’re back to square one. We still have no sources. But now we do have your insults, which to me is kind of uncool. So I’m calling you on it.


37 posted on 03/07/2009 2:49:44 PM PST by Yardstick
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A poster asked if you had sources...
Wrong. Somebody else was asked. My screen name isn't in the "To" box.
...and you acted like he was a dolt for not finding them himself.
Well, if that's what you presume then so be it.

You implied that he was lazy and lacked even “rudimentary internet skills”.
No, I stated that folks who didn't put any sources for their quotes were lazy...
"Have fun finding the sources on your own, 'cause they are out there. Most folks are just too lazy to add 'em."
...and, once again, if that is what you presume then so be it.
But in fact they have no actual sources, only secondary sources like articles from NewsMax.
If the quote is in a news article, and it is an original article, then that is a primary source, not a secondary source, isn't it?

And so we’re back to square one. We still have no sources.
No, we have sources, you just choose to ignore them.
But now we do have your insults...
No, we have what you presume and construe to be insults.

Your turn.

38 posted on 03/07/2009 3:05:03 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yardstick
Oh, why am I bothering?
Primary source
Many sources can be considered either primary and secondary, depending on the context in which they are used.[9] Moreover, the distinction between primary and secondary sources is subjective and contextual,[10] so that precise definitions are difficult to make.[11]

You'll never be satisfied.

39 posted on 03/07/2009 3:13:05 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Well, you’re right. Sorry about that! I mistook your intent.


40 posted on 03/07/2009 3:23:19 PM PST by Yardstick
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“I don’t claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the cull to the size of the surplus population.” - Prince Philip, preface of Down to Earth

Im not entirely sure why this one is listed in this post. This premise is absolutely correct and anyone that has taken a hunter safety course (ie legal hunters) would agree with it. Its where bag limits come from. X region can support X amount of animals but currently has Y amounts. You either hunt to cull to the sustainable amount, or dont hunt to replenish the population.
41 posted on 03/07/2009 7:45:42 PM PST by Frogtacos
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To: mporter345; Black Agnes

Great quotes!


42 posted on 03/07/2009 8:14:05 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mporter345

Ping for the file...


43 posted on 03/07/2009 10:16:40 PM PST by Cap74 (You can disagree with me. You can attack me. Do not lie to me.)
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