Skip to comments.Lost World Shropshire? Mammoths In England Found To Be Most Recent Yet
Posted on 06/18/2009 4:06:52 AM PDT by decimon
"Mammoths are conventionally believed to have become extinct in North Western Europe about 21,000 years ago during the main ice advance, known as the 'Last Glacial Maximum'" said Lister. "Our new radiocarbon dating of the Condover mammoths changes that, by showing that mammoths returned to Britain and survived until around 14,000 years ago."
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Wooly Bully ping.
They’ll figure out that they’re about 4400 years old, once the dating methods are actually accurate.
How do you know?
Why....the bible is his science textbook. flat earth, geocentric, Luddites need to believe the earth is only 6000 or so years old. Of course advances in medicine that discover and kill the microbes, that are giving them relief from their colds, rashes, etc. are exempt from their scrutiny.
Post 5 = Talking points that get pulled out and debunked on all of these threads.
The ages of some of the remains of mammoths on Wrangel Island (an island in the Arctic Ocean) fall in the range 3730 BC to 7390 BC.
Sorry, did I say BC? I meant BP, so 2009 years later :0)
This means there is radiocarbon dating evidence of Mammoths on Wrangel Island as little as 4000 years ago. The Shropshire Mammoths are hardly the most recent remains.
"Methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things the of the faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are" (CCC 159). The Catholic Church has no fear of science or scientific discovery.
Yeah, this seems limited to known remains in Europe.
I believe the article was talking about the mammoths of North Western Europe and not about Wrangel island or the world in general.
That’s a tusky sucka.
(blushing with shame) This is why Huffington Post gets all the hits. Its people like me lousing up the all-important Mammoth-dating threads :0(
Doesn't Huffington Post concentrate on contemporary mammoth louses?
It was the "Shropshire Slasher!"
***Ducks and Runs***
No, they became extinct because of the lack of Mammoth-dating agencies.
"Oh my ,mammoth steaks are delicious"
I take it all back. The Huffington Post never show Helen Thomas pictures, that’s why they get three times the hits :0)
Yes, the Wrangel island mammoths were an interesting thing. I believe they had become dwarves. It’s too bad they were killed off, it would be cool of some were to have survived until the present.
They became dwarves because of scarcity of resources. They say one of the ‘string figures’ ( like cat’s cradles) the Eskimo make is a figure of a mammoth.
"Wrangel brides are dying to meet you!"
That’s right, they did find evidence of Dwarf Mammoths.
Which just goes to show the wonder and joy of language. We have a situation where the phrase “Dwarf Mammoths” is completely correct and has no logical inconsistencies.
I’ll skip past the requisite, “Some people have too much time on their hands.”, to say that that is excellent.
I am still laughing at your reply!
Indeed a dwarf mammoth is a contradiction in terms.
“Theyll figure out that theyre about 4400 years old, once the dating methods are actually accurate.
How do you know?”
A huge body of evidence points to a major cataclysm about 4.5k years ago. The mammoths are part of a huge wider issue of strange animals that belong in a completely different world - wooly rhinos, giant animals of various kinds, huge insects that couldn’t get enough oxygen through their skin to live today, indicating either a much higher oxygen level or a much higher pressure. And of course reptiles, which never stop growing, which is why there is a particular issue of old, giant reptiles, and relatively recent societal memory of these “dragons”.
The dating methods are wildly inaccurate. For one thing the giant insects demonstrate clearly that the atmosphere has changed in a substantive way, so any presumption of steady levels of anything is out the window. The dating methods for longer periods, K-Ar etc have equally ridiculous assumptions.
Whether or not you believe the Bible as a matter of faith, society should accept that people a few thousand years ago were extremely smart, and preserved a record for us. Instead society has the assumption that people a few thousand years ago were primitive and dumb, but the unfortunate truth is that society now is more primitive in its behaviour than society was a few thousand years ago.
Every piece of factual, checkable science backs up the biblical account of a massive cataclysmic flood in which water came up from under the crust of the Earth, from the vast supplies which modern science finally got around to finding out about in the last 10 years or so (google arctic ocean of water under mantle)
There are well funded organizations started by people like Rockefeller which actively promote an atheistic worldview, regardless of the actual evidence.
I sympathize with Christians who feel that Christianity must accept the “established science”, because I used to feel like that. But the truth was I had done ZERO research into the facts, and was basing my view simply on what I had been told to accept without question. The fascinating truth that deserves personal research, is that the Biblical account has at least as much evidence in its favor as the things we were taught in school, and in many cases more so.
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Just leave me alone to eat my jumbo shrimp!...
You will never change anyone's mind, and here is the money quote: It doesn't matter what you believe, as long as you believe it then that is all that counts. Either one of you, evos or creationists, who tries to force their beliefs on the other, are no better than liberals trying to force all their BS on us.
Grow up, get a brain, that goes for both sides of the issue.
So how did they learn to use pics and shovels, and burrow into mines?
I don't have a category and I don't "go at it" at all.
I believe that God set evolution into motion and only post on these things when creationist/intelligent design folks try to twist science to fit their rigid reading of the bible.
on the other hand I see people posting what I consider Luddite BS and wont let it stand if I see it.
I do however, believe there is self serving in the scientific field, especially if your grants require you to grasp hold on bogus science like antropomorophic global warming. There are no politically motivated grants given to anthropologists however.
Just like jumbo shrimp, near miss, and President Obama.
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