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Teen beats dog with bat -- but who's to blame?
sltrib ^ | 06/20/2009

Posted on 06/21/2009 8:40:10 AM PDT by JoeProBono

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To: DJ MacWoW
Wonder if the kids parents have influence etc.

Likely. Too bad the dog can't talk.

21 posted on 06/21/2009 9:16:24 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: flintsilver7
Are you suggesting a completely innocent baby and a sociopathic teen who beats another person’s pet with a baseball bat deserve the same chance at life?

Simple question.

Of course. That teen didn't take another person life.

Simple question?

We should routinely put down people who are insane, you seem to imply that very thing?

22 posted on 06/21/2009 9:17:31 AM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: JoeProBono

Somebody should notify chet99, it looks like a pitbull to me.......


23 posted on 06/21/2009 9:22:50 AM PDT by gbt427
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To: pray4liberty
Too bad the dog can't talk.

Too bad the neighbors don't. Someone had to see something.

This truly is nuts. Was the kid walking around with a bat? If so why did no one call the police, right? Or did he go get one. Are the officials saying he told the dog to "stop the attack, I'll be right back"?

There's a comment section at the link and I am tempted.

24 posted on 06/21/2009 9:23:34 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Popman
We should routinely put down people who are insane, you seem to imply that very thing?

Who said the kid is insane?

More likely he's simply evil.

Insanity can be cured, or at least controlled.

I'm not aware of any such effective treatment for evil.

25 posted on 06/21/2009 9:27:01 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Popman

Are you trying to pick a fight?

First of all, my criteria for which people deserve to live is not limited to just those who murder in cold blood. I don’t have hard numbers on this, but I would wager that 99.999999% of all people who are barked at by dogs do not return with a baseball bat, prey on the dog’s domestic tendencies, and then beat it. Of the remaining 0.000001% who are just unable to prevent themselves from beating a domestic animal, I’d guess around 100% will never in any meaningful way contribute to society.

This kid, who is almost a legal adult (if not so already) is not insane. He is a sociopath, meaning he doesn’t care what’s right and what’s wrong. Insane people don’t beat dogs in somebody else’s yard because they barked at them. Many “insane” people are otherwise helpless and are being cared for. As a society, I believe we are judged on how we take care of those who cannot adequately take care of themselves. This includes domestic animals and the infirm among us. (Note this does not include humans who are otherwise capable of providing themselves but find it easier to just beg the government for handouts.)

This wretch is not incapable of taking care of himself and is most certainly not insane. He’s evil and I will treat him as such.


26 posted on 06/21/2009 9:37:38 AM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: JoeProBono

This was not the teen who beat the dog in this story.

Right? Right.


27 posted on 06/21/2009 9:46:22 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: JoeProBono
Sounds like the kid needs a visit from “Uncle Paulie”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7MKYj2cYE
28 posted on 06/21/2009 10:01:18 AM PDT by Polynikes (Viene una tormenta)
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To: flintsilver7

No not picking a fight just exposing your double standard

You are willing to put down a teen based on a few details where as the teen actually did nothing worthy of death that is if you think hitting a dog is worthy of being put down if you are I would suggest you have the mental problem

We actually do not know the kids mental condition yet you are purpossing to snuff his life out

He is not innocent as a new born baby but certainly not done anything remotely deserving the punishment we meet out to actually killers and the unborn


29 posted on 06/21/2009 10:27:07 AM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: Popman

First of all, maybe you have a hard time picking out hyperbole. I’m not actually advocating the death penalty for this kid. You seem to be hung up on that comment rather than on the substance of the remainder of my post. People that do these sorts of things are not productive members of society. That’s not just my opinion, by the way - it’s pretty well proven.

By the way, according to this story, we DO know the kid’s mental condition. In fact, it’s staring us right in the face.


30 posted on 06/21/2009 11:09:15 AM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: JoeProBono

I missed the description of the teen. Brother or Cracker?


31 posted on 06/21/2009 11:15:03 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Congrats to Malkin, Crosby, Staal, Fleury, and the rest of the Pens.)
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To: JoeProBono

The author of the article is Steve Gehrke.


32 posted on 06/21/2009 11:48:11 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (I don't suck the Hollyweird teat.)
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33 posted on 06/21/2009 12:34:23 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: flintsilver7
The boy should probably be put down. There’s no excuse for that - the child is defective and it’s only going to get worse.

Sorry I missed your hyperbolic point, but I tend to take people at their word.

In today's heated and anonymous environment, it can be difficult to determine just where a person is coming from.

I have read worse and they were completely serious

34 posted on 06/21/2009 3:57:46 PM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: JoeProBono
This would have been one dead sonofabitch had the little puke stepped into my yard and swung at anything. They have needed to run a forensic screen on that baseball bat just to determine gender.


35 posted on 06/21/2009 5:36:05 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Ted Nugent for Attorney General '12. You Know You Want It.)
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