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Trying To Have A Battle of Wits with Morons
Self | August 5, 2009 | Ninergold3 aka GiantsPrincess

Posted on 08/05/2009 1:08:42 PM PDT by ninergold3

This is from my FaceBook page. My nephew is married to the crazy girl in the first message. She won't work because she can't figure out what last name to use and she/they are having their kids taken away due to neglect.

SH - I wish someone, somewhere could explain to me why Obama is a socialist. Using logic & facts, correct definitions and coherent language. Not to mention no quotes from blogs, newrepublic.com or it's ilk, or any of the clowns from Fox News. I've asked around. No one can give me an honest answer that actually meets those qualifications.49 minutes ago · Comment · LikeUnlikeYou like this.

AH According to a paper here (Norway), if he was a politician in Norway he'd belong to the most right-wing party, lol. Then again, we're those crazy liberal socialist democrats and every other bad word.

AS health care. that makes him a socialist, apparently.

MHBecause he asked for a beer that wasn't technically as American as it could have been, dammit!

Ninergold3 - ME Socialism - noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Obama is taking money that WORKING people bust their butts for in order to spead the wealth to the LAZY people of this country who ... Read Moredon't want to get a job and work for what they get. We work for everything we have (house, cars, etc) - that doesn't entitle someone who wants to sit on their butt all day playing computer games the very same thing.

AS wow

JL Am I a socialist because I live in a country where healthcare is free? Because if that makes me a socialist then socialist me up baby.

AH You get a house and a car from the President if you go socialist? lucky you! Here we still have to work for our money, but get help if we're sick, at least.

M everyone that doesn't work is lazy? that's news to me.

LS I make video games for a living, so does that mean I enabling socialism? Sweet!


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: obama; socialism

1 posted on 08/05/2009 1:08:42 PM PDT by ninergold3
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To: ninergold3

“JL Am I a socialist because I live in a country where healthcare is free? Because if that makes me a socialist then socialist me up baby.”

No, but you are a moron because nothing is “free”.


2 posted on 08/05/2009 1:11:13 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: ninergold3

Wonder if Miss Tickly will show up here?


3 posted on 08/05/2009 1:12:35 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: autumnraine

Never have an argument with a moron. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.


4 posted on 08/05/2009 1:12:47 PM PDT by VA_Gentleman (Everyone says they have a plan... until they get punched in the face. -Mike Tyson)
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To: ninergold3
Never argue with a moron. They will drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience....
5 posted on 08/05/2009 1:13:21 PM PDT by nobdysfool (Taglines are so last year.....)
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To: VA_Gentleman

Haha! Great minds think alike....


6 posted on 08/05/2009 1:14:05 PM PDT by nobdysfool (Taglines are so last year.....)
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To: ninergold3

Trying To Have A Battle of Wits with Morons

Why do it? It’s...like wrestling a pig...the pig will have a ball and you will end up with mud and stink on you.


7 posted on 08/05/2009 1:14:25 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ninergold3
Ask them how health care is free?


8 posted on 08/05/2009 1:17:34 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ninergold3

Why bother? You walked into a room full of enemies and were inadequately equipped to deal with it, which is why you’re now asking FR for help.

Don’t start fights you can’t win.


9 posted on 08/05/2009 1:22:48 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Vendome

You’ve been here plenty long enough to know if you mention someone by name in a post, you are supposed to ping them.


10 posted on 08/05/2009 1:23:24 PM PDT by houeto ("Fill your hands you sons-a-bitches!" -Rooster Cogburn & JimRob)
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To: VA_Gentleman; autumnraine

>>>>>> Never have an argument with a moron. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. <<<<<

Concur. You have to step into their irrationality to “have an argument” with them.

Use Ann Coulter’s approach: smack them down hard and fast before they drag you into their demented world of unreason and feelings.


11 posted on 08/05/2009 1:23:36 PM PDT by angkor (The United States Congress is at war with America.)
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To: ninergold3

My husband, over the weekend, got into one of these arguments on Facebook with a cousin (American citizen) that has been living in England for the past 11 years. The cousin is all for Obamacare. My husband didn’t come back with any facts, just opinion, but it would have been useless even if he was presented with facts, as his mind would not have changed. Fortunately, there were a couple of people on the thread that weren’t for Obamacare and of course there were some that knew of some personal anecdote where it justified the hugely expensive, freedom limiting takeover by the government.


12 posted on 08/05/2009 1:28:28 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: ninergold3

Norway’s socialism is supported by profits from North Sea oil.


13 posted on 08/05/2009 1:33:56 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: ninergold3

LOL! I’m engaged in one myself right now! Jumped in to help a fellow Conservative! Not the first time, not the last time. I play one of the games there and have over 1200 friends who can see my posts. I want to let the peeps on our side know they are not alone, and I pray the ‘others’ might come around. But mostly for our side.
I try to not let it bother me, because then I might stop trying. :)


14 posted on 08/05/2009 1:35:48 PM PDT by Wife of D
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To: beaversmom

Very true. It’s useless to get into an argument with crazy people. It has been a trying week (had to file for a
restraining order for daughter’s ex-boyfriend. I
allowed myself to get dragged somewhere I shouldn’t have.


15 posted on 08/05/2009 1:36:04 PM PDT by ninergold3 ("Has it ever occurred to you that nothing occurs to God?" -Mark Lowry)
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To: Terpfen

Gee thanks. Do you think I hadn’t figured that one out all by myself? I’ve always come to my FReeper family for help and back-up. Why should this time have been any different?


16 posted on 08/05/2009 1:37:27 PM PDT by ninergold3 ("Has it ever occurred to you that nothing occurs to God?" -Mark Lowry)
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To: ninergold3
Sadly, a lot of people just don't get it. They fail to understand that government doesn't 'do' anything for anyone unless someone - citizens - pay for it. With socialism, the productive basically subsidize the unproductive. This is counter to common sense and self interest and never works very well. Morons who think government health care is 'free' are either brain dead or simply have every intention of living off of other people's sweat.

Some people have innate abilities and can sell them for a good price. Many have average ability but work very hard at whatever they do and make smart choices in life, reaping the financial rewards for their labor. The terminally naive among us seem to believe that this is 'unfair' to those who either have little innate ability or, more often, simply don't apply themselves and/or make foolish life choices that limit their opportunity for financial advancement.

These folks embrace socialism because they know the unproductive will benefit and can do so while pretending that taking the fruits of their labor from people who are productive is 'social justice'. Most of realize that it's just stealing from others in the name of 'fairness'. Unfortunately, when the stealing is promoted and enforced as well as distributed by a smothering, all-powerful government, no longer accountable to the citizens it purports to serve', the productive citizens are doomed to being, not only stolen from, but demonized by their government (and the unproductive) for having accumulated wealth, no matter how hard they worked for it.

Morons may love socialism but they have no real concept of how stifling and completely counter to normal, human self-interest it really is. They'll learn - too late - if Obama and his gang are allowed to keep destroying our economy and subjugating the people of America with lies about 'fairness' and 'choices' that will no longer exist if this crowd is not soon vanquished. Time is running out.

17 posted on 08/05/2009 1:37:31 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Do not go gentle into that good night)
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To: nobdysfool; VA_Gentleman

Here’s another you might like: Never argue with a fool....people might not know who’s who.


18 posted on 08/05/2009 1:38:30 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (ESPN MNF: 3 Putzes talking about football on TV while I'm trying to watch a game.)
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To: Little Ray

Not to mention the fact that they don’t provide for their own defense but hide behind the skirts of the USA.

I’d love to see the US withdraw from NATO (and Korea) and wish them best of luck in preserving their own societies.


19 posted on 08/05/2009 1:42:54 PM PDT by jtal
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To: Little Ray

Which is rapidly running out.


20 posted on 08/05/2009 1:47:29 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: ninergold3

JL Am I a socialist because I live in a country where healthcare is free? Because if that makes me a socialist then socialist me up baby.


You get free food, medical procedures, and gym equipment in prison. But then you have to surrender a lot of freedoms to get it.


21 posted on 08/05/2009 2:12:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Jim Scott
If these fools want to live in a Socialist Utopia, so be it. GO THERE.

It is WRONG for these lazy SOBs to demand that I TOO live under it.

It is incompatible with the founding principles of this nation.

22 posted on 08/05/2009 2:14:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: ninergold3

Two questions for our college educated president.

What is the underlying principle of Marxism?
How is this different from your plans?


23 posted on 08/05/2009 2:15:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: angkor

Ann Coulter is great at it, as is Michelle Malkin. Michelle destroyed the nags on “The View” (I’m of course excluding Elizabeth Hasselbeck) the other day. If you haven’t seen the clip of her on the show, I suggest watching it.


24 posted on 08/05/2009 2:20:29 PM PDT by VA_Gentleman (Everyone says they have a plan... until they get punched in the face. -Mike Tyson)
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To: houeto; MissTickly

Thought she was banned?


25 posted on 08/05/2009 3:13:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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I’ve always come to my FReeper family for help and back-up. Why should this time have been any different?

Because Facebook is a poor forum for political arguments.
26 posted on 08/05/2009 3:35:19 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Vendome
Thought she was banned?

Nope. Even if she was, you never know when someone gets re-instated. Call a persons nick, ping them please.

27 posted on 08/05/2009 4:56:06 PM PDT by houeto
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To: houeto

I did on my response 2 u


28 posted on 08/05/2009 7:31:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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JL Am I a socialist because I live in a country where healthcare is free? Because if that makes me a socialist then socialist me up baby.

Ninergold3, although your post defining socialism could have been more eloquently stated, this guy is proving your point.

These kids need to understand a few things about "Government Money:"

1. The government has no money of its own. Everything it has, it has to take from citizens and businesses in the form of taxes and fees.

2. The government can't give anything to anybody without first taking it from someone else.

3. The more things government gives away, the more it has to take from others.

4. Any money or service that government provides WILL come with strings attached.

Now, Mr. "Socialist me up" sounds like he's perfectly fine with points 1, 2, and 3. He doesn't care if the government takes money away from others as long as he gets the "free" health care.

He doesn't take into account, however, point number 4 and the control that the government now has over everyone's lifestyle now that they are footing the bill for health care coverage.

It would be bad enough if the government plan were just one plan among many. That way, if you decided that you didn't want to live by the government plan's rules, you could go elsewhere. But, Obama and the left want a "Single Payer" plan...they want to be the only game in town, and the plan being crafted in Congress right now does just that.

Lifestyle dictates, rationed care, etc.

"Socialist me up?"

No thanks.

29 posted on 08/06/2009 6:20:02 AM PDT by Washi
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